Admit it Dems: Ryan scares the shit out of you

I understand that. But his district is fairly balanced in a state that has trended Dem in the past several Pres elections.

State-wide results are irrelevant. What matters is the composition of his district, which leans slightly Republican. He should win a Republican district.
 
A tactic that I really find offensive is one used on this thread; gaslighting. Look at the crazy bitch. Look at the hysterical bitch. But it's something men do almost reflexively and especially right wing men. It's SF's main tactic when debating a woman.

ROFLMAO... yet another of your pathetic lines of bullshit. You are claiming that his plan will 'murder seniors'. It does nothing of the sort. It is pure unadulterated bullshit from you. So you are going full on emo with bullshit fear mongering.
 
Dear douche bag... he won with almost 70% of the vote in his last election. That is a friggin landslide.


So an incumbent Republican in a Republican district won big in a year that Republicans did very well while running against a political neophyte who had not previously held elective office. Impressive.
 
Actually, it's quite different for the two primary reasons that I already provided you, plus a few other minor things (like the growth rate of Medicare spending). Ryan-Wyden is not the Ryan Plan.

And, really, let's back up a minute. First, you incorrectly assumed that I thought that the Ryan Plan was the 2012 Budget Resolution. I didn't. Second, you siad that the Ryan-Wyden proposal from December 2011 was the latest proposal from Ryan. It wasn't. Third, you claim that the Ryan 2013 Budget Resolution is the same as Ryan-Wyden. It isn't.

So, let's get real here, SF.

1) No, I was talking about Ryan's Medicare proposal... you kept trying to divert to his overall Budget plan
2) I was referring again to Ryan's Medicare proposal with Wyden... the December 2011 plan is the most recent version of that... as I stated
3) No, I did not claim the Ryan Budget was the same as Ryan-Wyden... yet another lie from you... I stated that the Medicare portion of the Ryan Budget is the Ryan-Wyden plan from Dec 2011. I linked to it, showed you the page references... and yet you still come back with more lies.
 
So an incumbent Republican in a Republican district won big in a year that Republicans did very well while running against a political neophyte who had not previously held elective office. Impressive.

Dear Douche bag... as you stated, it leans slightly Rep. Ryan has won with over 60% in every election since his first. Ryan won in with 65, 63, 64% in 2004, 2006 and 2008. How popular were Reps in 2006 and 2008 Dung?
 
1) No, I was talking about Ryan's Medicare proposal... you kept trying to divert to his overall Budget plan
2) I was referring again to Ryan's Medicare proposal with Wyden... the December 2011 plan is the most recent version of that... as I stated
3) No, I did not claim the Ryan Budget was the same as Ryan-Wyden... yet another lie from you... I stated that the Medicare portion of the Ryan Budget is the Ryan-Wyden plan from Dec 2011. I linked to it, showed you the page references... and yet you still come back with more lies.

But Ryan-Wyden is different from Ryan proposal for the two primary reasons I already identified for you. The two are similar, but are not the same and coupled with the other healthcare policy changes in the 2013 Ryan Budget rest on very different premises. Ron Wyden will tell you the same thing. That why he voted against the Budget and, during debate, specifically singled out the Medicare portion of it as particularly bad.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...urts-the-poorest-and-most-vulnerable-seniors/

Like I said, if you had just linked to the Ryan Budget instead of the Ryan-Wyden proposal, all this nonsense could have been avoided.
 
Dear Douche bag... as you stated, it leans slightly Rep. Ryan has won with over 60% in every election since his first. Ryan won in with 65, 63, 64% in 2004, 2006 and 2008. How popular were Reps in 2006 and 2008 Dung?

Is his margin of victory all that impressive for an incumbent in a district that favors him? Doubtful. But, really, who gives a shit? You want to pretend he's moderate based on electoral results. What you really ought to look at is his voting record and that reveals him to be a staunch conservative, not much different from Michele Bachmann last Congress.
 
But Ryan-Wyden is different from Ryan proposal for the two primary reasons I already identified for you. The two are similar, but are not the same and coupled with the other healthcare policy changes in the 2013 Ryan Budget rest on very different premises. Ron Wyden will tell you the same thing. That why he voted against the Budget and, during debate, specifically singled out the Medicare portion of it as particularly bad.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...urts-the-poorest-and-most-vulnerable-seniors/

Like I said, if you had just linked to the Ryan Budget instead of the Ryan-Wyden proposal, all this nonsense could have been avoided.

Once again douche bag... The MEDICARE PORTION OF THE RYAN BUDGET IS THE SAME... I linked to BOTH documents. Instead of linking to a piece of shit liberal blogger like Ezra Klein, how about you point out which portions of Ryan Wyden you think are not a part of the Ryan budget.
 
Dear Douche bag... as you stated, it leans slightly Rep. Ryan has won with over 60% in every election since his first. Ryan won in with 65, 63, 64% in 2004, 2006 and 2008. How popular were Reps in 2006 and 2008 Dung?

Dear Douche bag! I mean really, how does Dh answer you without calling you names I will never know. He has much more patience with your nonsense than I do.
 
Is his margin of victory all that impressive for an incumbent in a district that favors him? Doubtful. But, really, who gives a shit? You want to pretend he's moderate based on electoral results. What you really ought to look at is his voting record and that reveals him to be a staunch conservative, not much different from Michele Bachmann last Congress.

Yes douche bag... when you consistently win with almost two thirds of your constituents voting for you in a fairly split district, it is impressive. Especially when that same district barely goes Rep for Pres Bush and where Obama did quite well.

Yes, he is a conservative, I am not arguing that douche bag... I am saying he is a conservative that is respected by both parties in his district. That doesn't mean they agree with every single position he takes, but it does highlight the fact that he isn't the radical lunatic that Darla and you continue to pretend he is.
 
Wow... he really scares you doesn't he?

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Well, if I thought he was getting close to power he would really scare me yes.

I have a vagina. I insist on being the one in charge of it. Anyone who wants to give the state power to shove a 12' wand inside of my vagina does scare me. But being afraid is not the mark of a coward. Cowering in fear is. Instead of cowering I insist on informing people of what a psychopath your boy is. Your not liking that and going emo over it is just a bonus.
 
Dear Douche bag! I mean really, how does Dh answer you without calling you names I will never know. He has much more patience with your nonsense than I do.

LMAO... why don't you go emo again and tell us how the Wyden/Ryan plan will 'murder' people.
 
Well, if I thought he was getting close to power he would really scare me yes.

I have a vagina. I insist on being the one in charge of it. Anyone who wants to give the state power to shove a 12' wand inside of my vagina does scare me. But being afraid is not the mark of a coward. Cowering in fear is. Instead of cowering I insist on informing people of what a psychopath your boy is. Your not liking that and going emo over it is just a bonus.

Again dearest Darla... you are the only one going emo... calling him a psycho, saying his plan will murder people etc... You are simply using fear mongering because you want to protect your ability to jam a metal spike in a childs head.
 
Yes douche bag... when you consistently win with almost two thirds of your constituents voting for you in a fairly split district, it is impressive. Especially when that same district barely goes Rep for Pres Bush and where Obama did quite well.

Yes, he is a conservative, I am not arguing that douche bag... I am saying he is a conservative that is respected by both parties in his district. That doesn't mean they agree with every single position he takes, but it does highlight the fact that he isn't the radical lunatic that Darla and you continue to pretend he is.

No it doesn't. His own legislation tells us all we need to know. He is a radical psychopath. His Medicare Voucher scheme was so radical pollsters had trouble polling on it because respondents refused to believe it was a real proposal. His views on women are so radical that they were roundly rejected by voters in Mississippi, not to mention kicked to the curb in your own state by 40 or 50 points.

He's a radical right wing lunatic.
 
Again dearest Darla... you are the only one going emo... calling him a psycho, saying his plan will murder people etc... You are simply using fear mongering because you want to protect your ability to jam a metal spike in a childs head.

Well, I am not too worried about your lying outbursts. Your own state rejected the Ryan-approved Personhood amendment by a supermajority of 40 or more points twice. Mississippi rejected it too.

Unfortunately for your purposes, it's in black and white, I have linked to it, it will be all over before November and women are going to know about it above the objections of yourself and the right wing psychopath Mr. Paul Ryan. In fact once women are informed of Ryan's views, I expect Colorado to be out of Mitt's reach. And all your crying isn't going to help.
 
Once again douche bag... The MEDICARE PORTION OF THE RYAN BUDGET IS THE SAME... I linked to BOTH documents. Instead of linking to a piece of shit liberal blogger like Ezra Klein, how about you point out which portions of Ryan Wyden you think are not a part of the Ryan budget.


But they aren't the same. And if you clicked on the link you would see that I was not relying on anything from Ezra Klein but on what Ron Wyden (you know, the Wyden part of Ryan-Wyden) had to say about the differences between the two. He's clear enough about it that I need not go through the exercise. Just read what he has to say.
 
Is his margin of victory all that impressive for an incumbent in a district that favors him? Doubtful. But, really, who gives a shit? You want to pretend he's moderate based on electoral results. What you really ought to look at is his voting record and that reveals him to be a staunch conservative, not much different from Michele Bachmann last Congress.
Neither of them are conservatives...I don't know what they are but it isn't conservative. That's the problem in the GOP, they've shoved real conservatives out of the party and brought the lunatic fringe in.
 
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