More bad news for Obama

[PostmodernProphet]

Sure, the American people are clamoring for Ryan and republicans.

in those states that are up for election, they are....read the polls....

 

[blackascoal]

in those states that are up for election, they are....read the polls....

You read the polls. Come back when you find one that demonstrates that America is clamoring for Ryan or Romney.

As bad as the economy is, and with as many failures that follows Obama, you're still relying on "Hope and Change" to win.

Hope and change .. :0) that's funny.

 

[Damocles]

Since when is Ryan a moderate?*

Let's see who gets this right.

He isn't. The post I quoted said that Romney needed to pick a moderate. My point was that Romney already has one. Basically, what Dune had to say was silly. Romney didn't need to pick a moderate, if he had we'd still be talking about the small stuff. Instead he made a good choice and picked somebody that brought the election right back to policy. Romney can't let Obama try to get away from his record, if he does and Obama is successful making this election about small stuff (like dogs) then Obama wins.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

You read the polls. Come back when you find one that demonstrates that America is clamoring for Ryan or Romney.

so you didn't bother to look at the RCP polling data?.....do I have to spoon feed you?.....you asked about Congress.......the polling data shows clear leads that will add a minimum of four Republicans in the senate, a good shot at six and a chance at eight......

you can't win an argument just by ignoring the facts......

in Nebraska the Republican leads by 16 points....
Florida, Massachusetts, Virginia and Indiana are all in margin of error, under 2%
Missouri the Republican by 5
Montana the Republican by 10
Nevada Republican by 9
North Dakota Republican by 9
Wisconsin Republican by 11
and on top of that in Maine the Democrat trails an independent by 55 to 7

ten seats at stake with Republicans leading in 6 and tied in 4.....are you hoping for a change?....

 

[Mott the Hoople]

Ok, so overnight and some response to the thread....I guess predictable...From liberals, everything from continuing to blame Bush, to a complete inversion of what the numbers tell them.

Then there is this:



OMG Althea, are you serious here?

Sorry JMac but the reason you're not getting responses is because you're the stereotype of the angry white redneck conservative who, to put it bluntly, just isn't the sharpet pencil in the box. Write something worth responding too and people will. Do the angry white guy rant cause you're frustrated with your own personal failings and you'll largely be ignored.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

so you didn't bother to look at the RCP polling data?.....do I have to spoon feed you?.....you asked about Congress.......the polling data shows clear leads that will add a minimum of four Republicans in the senate, a good shot at six and a chance at eight......

you can't win an argument just by ignoring the facts......

in Nebraska the Republican leads by 16 points....
Florida, Massachusetts, Virginia and Indiana are all in margin of error, under 2%
Missouri the Republican by 5
Montana the Republican by 10
Nevada Republican by 9
North Dakota Republican by 9
Wisconsin Republican by 11
and on top of that in Maine the Democrat trails an independent by 55 to 7

ten seats at stake with Republicans leading in 6 and tied in 4.....are you hoping for a change?....

I did. You're not very good at numbers are you PiMP? The data clearly shows that if the election were today Ryan/Romney will lose.

 

[Rune]

He isn't. The post I quoted said that Romney needed to pick a moderate. My point was that Romney already has one. Basically, what Dune had to say was silly. Romney didn't need to pick a moderate, if he had we'd still be talking about the small stuff. Instead he made a good choice and picked somebody that brought the election right back to policy. Romney can't let Obama try to get away from his record, if he does and Obama is successful making this election about small stuff (like dogs) then Obama wins.

You know etch a sketch is a moderate how? Did he tell you that? Which description of himself do you believe, the one you liked the most?

 

[Rune]

Sorry JMac but the reason you're not getting responses is because you're the stereotype of the angry white redneck conservative who, to put it bluntly, just isn't the sharpet pencil in the box. Write something worth responding too and people will. Do the angry white guy rant cause you're frustrated with your own personal failings and you'll largely be ignored.

As true as this is Mott, the mental runt is simply too stupid to believe anyone other than Rush.

 

[Howey]

Instead he made a good choice and picked somebody that brought the election right back to policy.

Then he should have picked someone with a policy dependent on something other than dumping Medicare. See: Bush 2005.

Sorry JMac but the reason you're not getting responses is because you're the stereotype of the angry white redneck conservative who, to put it bluntly, just isn't the sharpet pencil in the box. Write something worth responding too and people will. Do the angry white guy rant cause you're frustrated with your own personal failings and you'll largely be ignored.

I love you inastrictlyheterosexualway.

 

[blackascoal]

so you didn't bother to look at the RCP polling data?.....do I have to spoon feed you?.....you asked about Congress.......the polling data shows clear leads that will add a minimum of four Republicans in the senate, a good shot at six and a chance at eight......

you can't win an argument just by ignoring the facts......

in Nebraska the Republican leads by 16 points....
Florida, Massachusetts, Virginia and Indiana are all in margin of error, under 2%
Missouri the Republican by 5
Montana the Republican by 10
Nevada Republican by 9
North Dakota Republican by 9
Wisconsin Republican by 11
and on top of that in Maine the Democrat trails an independent by 55 to 7

ten seats at stake with Republicans leading in 6 and tied in 4.....are you hoping for a change?....

None of that demonstrates the American people are clamoring for Ryan or Romney.

You want facts ..

Gallup: No immediate bounce for Romney after Ryan VP pick
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_...mediate-bounce-for-romney-after-ryan-vp-pick/

Poll watch: Paul Ryan pick doesn't give Mitt Romney a bounce
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/au...yan-pick-doesnt-give-romney-a-bounce-20120815

Paul Ryan Pick Causes Little Change: Poll
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/15/paul-ryan-pick_n_1784520.html

Daily 2012 Polling for August 15, 2012…The Ryan ‘bounce’ is small
http://www.politicaldog101.com/2012...-for-august-15-2012-the-ryan-bounce-is-small/

I didn't ask you for polling on other republicans, I asked you to demonstrate how America is clamoring for Ryan or Romney.

You've yet to do so .. because you can't .. but you are free to ignore these facts.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I did. You're not very good at numbers are you PiMP? The data clearly shows that if the election were today Ryan/Romney will lose.

first of all, we were discussing Congress, not the presidential election.....second, you better hope then that the election is today, instead of in November.......third, given the state of the numbers, I can see why you would prefer that......Obama is clearly in decline and the Republicans haven't just started campaigning.....

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I didn't ask you for polling on other republicans, I asked you to demonstrate how America is clamoring for Ryan or Romney.

You've yet to do so .. because you can't .. but you are free to ignore these facts.

first of all your claim, in our discussion of Congress started out referring to Romney and Republicans....I expect you changed because you knew you were wrong......second, I have already pointed to the polling data on the swing states which you continue to ignore......a necessity, because they counter your position.....which of us is ignoring fact?.....

 

[Mott the Hoople]

As true as this is Mott, the mental runt is simply too stupid to believe anyone other than Rush.

Maybe. I'll give anyone the benefit of the doubt if they're willing to at least make an attempt to honestly communicate an exchange of ideas. The only thing I see JMac do (and he's not the only one) is try to marginalize those who he doesn't agree with with his angry white red neck rants. Which is completely counter productive. Instead of marginalizing people (the sure sign of a bigot) maybe he should try discussing ideas. If he continues to marginalize people and not discuss ideas, then it's because he has none.

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

LOL You haven't seen the RCP electoral map have you? LOL Mittsies gonna lose now that the party stuck with with a right wing ideologue he's gonna lose big. LOL

That's two Presidential elections in a row where the Repelican candidate has imploded with his Veep choice. Fucking hillarious! LOL

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL...

Dear Mutt... you realize that Romney is gaining ground in most of the swing states?

 

[Mott the Hoople]

first of all, we were discussing Congress, not the presidential election.....second, you better hope then that the election is today, instead of in November.......third, given the state of the numbers, I can see why you would prefer that......Obama is clearly in decline and the Republicans haven't just started campaigning.....

I'll stand corrected on the congressional voate. You're just seeing what you want to see in terms of the Presidential election. Romney's odds of winning are getting starker and starker each day. The only areas where support for Romney is growing is in the States which all ready support him. He's showing no growth in the States that support Obama, and Obama is leading in 8 of the 9 swing states with Romney only showing any statistically significant increases in just three of of those 9 states. That means that the polling within those 9 swing states fall within one standard deviation of the mean (meaning Obama's odds of winning are better than 66.7% in those 9 States) and the polling with in the 6 swing states which have shown no significant increase for Romney are withing two standard deviations of the mean (meaning Obama's odds of winning are better than 85% in those 6 States) and those are calculated at a 95% leven of confidence. So if you want to go by the numbers Romney is in deep shit and the only area where his seeing real significant increases in support are in States which all ready heavily support him to begin with, and that means nothing from an electoral standpoint.

So you might want to try looking at the numbers objectively. Your boys in trouble and has one hell of an uphill climb.

 

[blackascoal]

first of all your claim, in our discussion of Congress started out referring to Romney and Republicans....I expect you changed because you knew you were wrong......second, I have already pointed to the polling data on the swing states which you continue to ignore......a necessity, because they counter your position.....which of us is ignoring fact?.....

It isn't a matter of ignoring facts .. it's a matter of ignorance.

I asked you to demonstrate that the country is clamoring for Ryan and Romney and you've failed miserably.

Where is the huge (clamoring) bounce for Ryan?

NEWSFLASH: There isn't one.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL...

Dear Mutt... you realize that Romney is gaining ground in most of the swing states?

Against Obama he's made only statistically significant increases in support in 3 swing states. Ohio, Colorado and Iowa and Obama still leads the polling in those three States and he still leads in 9 of the 10 swing States and the bump Romney should have recieved from his Veep selection is one of the historically lowest bumps ever.

Most of Romney significant increases in support are in states that all ready support him by a wide margin. There's been very, very little change in the last few months. Right now the statistical probability of Obama winning are better than 2/3rds.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

It isn't a matter of ignoring facts .. it's a matter of ignorance.

I asked you to demonstrate that the country is clamoring for Ryan and Romney and you've failed miserably.

Where is the huge (clamoring) bounce for Ryan?

NEWSFLASH: There isn't one.

Well to be fair it's only been a little more than a week and the data is still coming in but it does look like the Ryan selection is recieving a historically low bump. To many Americans are just fed up with angry white guys like SF, PiMP, Dixie, JMac, etc.

The nation is looking for real leaders, not spoiled brats who are pissed they can't have all things their way.

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

I'll stand corrected on the congressional voate. You're just seeing what you want to see in terms of the Presidential election. Romney's odds of winning are getting starker and starker each day. The only areas where support for Romney is growing is in the States which all ready support him. He's showing no growth in the States that support Obama, and Obama is leading in 8 of the 9 swing states with Romney only showing any statistically significant increases in just three of of those 9 states. That means that the polling within those 9 swing states fall within one standard deviation of the mean (meaning Obama's odds of winning are better than 66.7% in those 9 States) and the polling with in the 6 swing states which have shown no significant increase for Romney are withing two standard deviations of the mean (meaning Obama's odds of winning are better than 85% in those 6 States) and those are calculated at a 95% leven of confidence. So if you want to go by the numbers Romney is in deep shit and the only area where his seeing real significant increases in support are in States which all ready heavily support him to begin with, and that means nothing from an electoral standpoint.

So you might want to try looking at the numbers objectively. Your boys in trouble and has one hell of an uphill climb.

What polls are you looking at Mutt???

Romney has gained in Ohio, VA, FL, WI since the announcement of Ryan.

MO, NV, NC, IA have not had polls since the announcement

CO and MI are the only ones where Obama has gained ground.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/?state=nwa

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

Against Obama he's made only statistically significant increases in support in 3 swing states. Ohio, Colorado and Iowa and Obama still leads the polling in those three States and he still leads in 9 of the 10 swing States and the bump Romney should have recieved from his Veep selection is one of the historically lowest bumps ever.

Most of Romney significant increases in support are in states that all ready support him by a wide margin. There's been very, very little change in the last few months. Right now the statistical probability of Obama winning are better than 2/3rds.

Wrong...

1) The Ryan announcement came less than two weeks ago...

2) in the states that have done polls since then, Romney leads in Ohio, VA, WI and FL... lost ground in CO and MI

3) MO, NV, NC, IA have not done polls since the announcement... so where are you getting your data Mutt?