ID Check upheld

And again, you're so myopic that you overlooked the part of "suspects".
So, while it was a nice attempt to build a strawman, you have failed; again. :D

No. You are trying to build the straw man. What I have written on these issues remains unrefuted and continues to be 100% accurate, dumbass. It was me that initially used the word "suspect" as in "suspected immigrant". Did you miss that, bitch? Just what is a "suspected immigrant" and what would compel anyone to care? I think I see immigrants everyday but I don't care enough to find out anything about their status. It ain't none of my business and the courts are telling the states that it ain't none of their business either. Even if a local "checks" and discovers an "illegal immigrant" he first exposes himself to all kinds of legal wranglings with the feds or the ACLU and second he can't do a damned thing about this so-called "illegal immigrant" other than inform the INS and drop it right there. By that time the "illegal immigrant" is long gone and probably back on his $4 an hour job working for some damned rethug politician.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA What a fucking IDIOT!!!!!!!!!
 
Are y'all saying USF lied again????????????????????


I guarantee two things. One: This will be thrown out by a higher court; and two: No way in hell are they going to enforce it in the fields. Who's going to pick all the peaches? The whites?
 
Are y'all saying USF lied again????????????????????


I guarantee two things. One: This will be thrown out by a higher court; and two: No way in hell are they going to enforce it in the fields. Who's going to pick all the peaches? The whites?

Most of it was thrown out in the 11th District yesterday and you are correct. The rest will be thrown out in another court. Right now Alabama and Georgia are licking their wounds and howling at the moon. Things will get worse for them. You can bet on that.
 
Are y'all saying USF lied again????????????????????


I guarantee two things. One: This will be thrown out by a higher court; and two: No way in hell are they going to enforce it in the fields. Who's going to pick all the peaches? The whites?

The sad thing is that you are so fucking ignorant, you don't realize that what you said is profoundly racist and bigoted. Your contention is that the only thing illegal immigrants are good for is picking your peaches? I know for the queers, that it is probably some euphamism for some graphic display of immorality they engage in. But, why are you so racist?
 
You mean you have the civil liberty to be in this country illegally? Why do you libtardiots hate this country so much? Move to Cuba. You will be more at home there. You get free healthcare and everything. Just bring your own sheets to the hospital :)

This is one of the most disgusting ploys of the right. The idea that, if you don't like the way things are you should leave. WTF? No, if I dislike the way things are going I work to change them. It is just as much my country as it is yours, and I am not going anywhere.

Now, I do not like the porous border we have. I also do not like the lack of control of our borders. But this is not a liberal issue. Not a single president, from either side of the aisle, has seriously addressed it.
 
The sad thing is that you are so fucking ignorant, you don't realize that what you said is profoundly racist and bigoted. Your contention is that the only thing illegal immigrants are good for is picking your peaches? I know for the queers, that it is probably some euphamism for some graphic display of immorality they engage in. But, why are you so racist?

The fact that the overwhelming majority of working illegals are doing manual labor is not disputed. That they have been used for picking crops, for low pay, for decades is also not disputed. Not a lot of illegal immigrants working as accountants.
 
The fact that the overwhelming majority of working illegals are doing manual labor is not disputed. That they have been used for picking crops, for low pay, for decades is also not disputed. Not a lot of illegal immigrants working as accountants.

My guess is that is just the way you liberals like it. As long as those illegals know their place, don't get too uppity and keep voting demalquedacrat you are all for illegal immigration. My guess is that if they voted GOP, your sorry ass would be on the border with a rifle shootin at em
 
This is one of the most disgusting ploys of the right. The idea that, if you don't like the way things are you should leave. WTF? No, if I dislike the way things are going I work to change them. It is just as much my country as it is yours, and I am not going anywhere.

Now, I do not like the porous border we have. I also do not like the lack of control of our borders. But this is not a liberal issue. Not a single president, from either side of the aisle, has seriously addressed it.

Awww did I hurt your itty bitty feewings? Seems to me the path of least resistance is for you to relocate. You libtardiots seem to have about 100 countries you like better than this one. Why fight it. Go enjoy life somewhere else. Because those of us who love our founding principles will fight back :)
 
Awww did I hurt your itty bitty feewings? Seems to me the path of least resistance is for you to relocate. You libtardiots seem to have about 100 countries you like better than this one. Why fight it. Go enjoy life somewhere else. Because those of us who love our founding principles will fight back :)

I'm all for fighting back. I'll give you rightwingers more than you bargained for.

The idea that anyone who opposes your views should leave the country is about as unamerican as it gets. Changes happen, and that is a fact of life. That you don't like change doesn't matter. And on this topic, perhaps YOU would be better suited to living in Cuba. Their immigration policies seem more in line with yours.

Now, as far as the illegal immigrants are concerned, how about having a republican president step up and do something about border security??

Oh thats right, they started the whole "amnesty for illegals" bullshit. But now its wrong, huh?
 
I'm all for fighting back. I'll give you rightwingers more than you bargained for.

The idea that anyone who opposes your views should leave the country is about as unamerican as it gets. Changes happen, and that is a fact of life. That you don't like change doesn't matter. And on this topic, perhaps YOU would be better suited to living in Cuba. Their immigration policies seem more in line with yours.

Now, as far as the illegal immigrants are concerned, how about having a republican president step up and do something about border security??

Oh thats right, they started the whole "amnesty for illegals" bullshit. But now its wrong, huh?

Actually, you are correct in that Reagan did allow amnesty with the agreement that on a go forward basis we would control our borders. We didn't. He was lied to. Sorta like when he agreed to raise taxes in exchange for spending cuts. The increased taxes came, but the spending cuts did not. Lesson learned? Never trust a fucking demalquedacrat. They will always lie and cheat.

Bottom line is this. A nation can't survive if it can't control its borders and unchecked welfare. Look at the armpit Commiefornistan is turning into. It is all because of unchecked immigration and welfare.

We don't need to patrol the border. We need to do three simple things to control illegal immigration.

1) No gubmint goodies for illegal immigrants (no welfare, food stamps, healthcare, education etc)
2) English only. Make it illegal to have "press 1 for english". You cant' speak english, then fuck off.

Problem solved. They will self deport.
 
Actually, you are correct in that Reagan did allow amnesty with the agreement that on a go forward basis we would control our borders. We didn't. He was lied to. Sorta like when he agreed to raise taxes in exchange for spending cuts. The increased taxes came, but the spending cuts did not. Lesson learned? Never trust a fucking demalquedacrat. They will always lie and cheat.

Bottom line is this. A nation can't survive if it can't control its borders and unchecked welfare. Look at the armpit Commiefornistan is turning into. It is all because of unchecked immigration and welfare.

We don't need to patrol the border. We need to do three simple things to control illegal immigration.

1) No gubmint goodies for illegal immigrants (no welfare, food stamps, healthcare, education etc)
2) English only. Make it illegal to have "press 1 for english". You cant' speak english, then fuck off.

Problem solved. They will self deport.

Reagan signed the amnesty order in '86 and was president until January of '90. But its not the fault of conservatives? lol

And what did Bush 1 do? How about Bush 2?
 
Reagan signed the amnesty order in '86 and was president until January of '90. But its not the fault of conservatives? lol

And what did Bush 1 do? How about Bush 2?

Fault lies with republicans yes. I have never argued otherwise. So sad that your strawman argument has been uttlerly torched to the ground. You aren't very good at this are you
 
Fault lies with republicans yes. I have never argued otherwise. So sad that your strawman argument has been uttlerly torched to the ground. You aren't very good at this are you

You have screamed "Libtard" at every opportunity. I thought perhaps your education was lacking. I'm glad I could fill in the holes in that education.

And just as an FYI, the fault lies with every administration since the influx began. None have addressed it.
 
You have screamed "Libtard" at every opportunity. I thought perhaps your education was lacking. I'm glad I could fill in the holes in that education.

And just as an FYI, the fault lies with every administration since the influx began. None have addressed it.

You didn't fill in any education. I already knew that. You are still a libtard. Nothing you posted changes that. It isn't personal though. I am sure you are a swell guy.
 
You didn't fill in any education. I already knew that. You are still a libtard. Nothing you posted changes that. It isn't personal though. I am sure you are a swell guy.

YOur constant attempts to label me show your lack of knowledge. I have liberal views on some issues and conservative views on others. But please show me where I expressed a liberal view in this thread?
 
YOur constant attempts to label me show your lack of knowledge. I have liberal views on some issues and conservative views on others. But please show me where I expressed a liberal view in this thread?

let me guess, you are a "moderate" right?

sounds so nice to say doesn't it? "I am a moderate", makes one sound so high minded.

ROFLMAO
 
let me guess, you are a "moderate" right?

sounds so nice to say doesn't it? "I am a moderate", makes one sound so high minded.

ROFLMAO

You are the one who feels a need to label people. I am an independent. I don't follow a party line.

But, once again, please show me where I expressed a liberal view in this thread?
 
I can verify for all time that Winterborn is NOT A LIBERAL. On the other hand, I AM A LIBERAL and I deeply respect Winterborn and many if not most of his views. He is well spoken, well behaved and generally wants to relegate debates/conversations to polite and meaningful sharing of information. I know that he has been patient with me and taught me a lot. All I have to do is stop and listen to some of what he has to say. nofacts has nothing. No skills, no knowledge of anything, shit for an attitude and seems to be quite proud of all that. nofacts gives genuine conservatives a very bad name.
 
Your thread title is a total lie. Your source is a partisan Arizona rag dedicated to uphold their ridiculous laws and poor ole' mistreated Sheriff Joe Arpiao, and their conclusion is shit on top of shit. No truth in any of it. Immigrants in Georgia can breath more freely now. They are no longer expected to prove anything except their innocence if charged with a crime. Their immigration status remains a federal issue.


The op, title notwithstanding, it perfectly true and clarified in the context of the post......

Its just like a leftwing lacky to take one line out of context and use that to make an invalid and stupid point...

From your link:
The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals did uphold provisions of the state immigration law that allow police to stop people they have a "reasonable suspicion" of being in the country unlawfully, and to ask about the immigration status of motorists without driver's licenses.


No one was talking about school children registering for school.
 
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