Mitt Romney’s Fair Share

I must admit this pretty much sums up how I feel about the Mormons.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is a business more than a religion. The church organization, or company as I will refer to it at times in this article, brings in more than $20 billion annually from its member donation, sales and over 100 companies they are directly a part of. As with many successful companies, they put a majority of that money back into the business through funding missionaries and their training (to recruit new members), sustaining 18+ radio stations and constructing new facilities (14 new temples are currently in the works). While their statistics for new members are impressive (over 300,000 each year for the past decade), one has to wonder if their techniques to gain new members and the fulfillment of the inflated expectations of those new members are moral. With all the new members that are signed up to the church by missionaries each year, they are fed information that is partly correct, but also not the whole story. It is very similar to a new car advertisement on television. They will show the car racing through the streets without any other cars on the road, rave about the gas mileage (which cannot be obtained by driving the way they just demonstrated), and how you can get it for 1.99% financing and less than $300 a month. The truth of the matter is it will get 25% less fuel economy than they post (because no one drives 50 mph on the highway needed to get those numbers) and unless you have a credit score of 720+, you will not get anything close to that interest rate or a payment even below $400 a month. The Mormon "business" is very similar. The missionaries paint this terrific this picture of everyone abstaining from tobacco, alcohol, etc. and a very clean-cut image of the average member. The idea of eternal marriage and happiness is stressed beyond belief in their initial discussions. After three visits, you will be asked to join the church and agree to all their regulations. How can the span of a few weeks (or even shorter) be enough time to research enough about a religion, I mean business, and commit to their rules, which you don't know a majority of them?

Yet, with all these promises of a fabulous, simple life through the church, only 46% of members attend church services even once per month! As a former member, I would suggest some of the reasons a lot of people don't go regularly is they didn't go to church services regularly before they were LDS, they have done things against the regulations of the church and don't want to face scrutiny, have better things to do for a majority of Sundays, and find the services to be about as interesting as the average church service - not very.

Another point that needs some analysis is the subject of tithing. While donating to worthwhile causes is a great thing and good use of money, requiring 10% from families that may not have 10% to really spare in their lives is unrealistic. The idea is that donating money to the Mormon business will bring money and fortune (non-monetary) to you and your family, almost a "pay it forward" concept. Donating this 10% for your entire life can have a major effect on your financial position when you retire. If a family only has the 10% to spare each month (because ideally the wife would not work and exclusively take care of the kids and help inside the church) and put that towards tithing, they would be living month-to-month, not accomplishing anything towards the future. If they invested that 10%, they could retire a millionaire with ease and live comfortably in their elder years. This is not the case for every Mormon family, but there are many who are pressured or convinced to tithe 10%, when they don't really have that money to spare.

Membership is expected to grow to over 23 million over the next 20 years, which is a scary thought for all the people who have researched the business, found obvious holes in the concepts, and wish it would fade away as more and more people know the facts. The future of the church from a financial standpoint is very strong and will likely continue for a long time. Members will continue to sign up, thinking this religion will transform their lives and allow them to live forever because they carried out God's work during their time on Earth. Attendance numbers will remain low because of how the church is constructed, but in a business it is all about numbers. At the end of the day, the business known as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is a very profitable and successful business.


http://voices.yahoo.com/why-mormon-religion-more-like-business-than-443297.html?cat=3

in many ways this is also how i feel about most organized religions

however, the mormons are much more upfront (after you join) about collecting their tithes

like many who wondered how jfk would reconcile being a catholic and having the pope as the sole authority, i wonder how mittens will react to what the mormon bishops and elders who run the church tell him to do politically...after all guess who contributed a huge amount to californias' proposition 8 supporters

oh well
 
You've raised Hamas and Hezbollah before, but you couldn't name any actual 'charity work' they had done. Besides, the sheer number of people they've beheaded while praising Allah, sort of nullifies the 'good deeds' they may have done. Mormons don't have nearly as many suicide bombers or death squads. Oh, and LDS has been providing their services to countries in distress and people in need for decades, and not ONCE have they done so under the prerequisite of becoming a Mormon or listening to a sermon.

Again... are they "EVIL" because they are a 'business' or is it because they are a 'church?'

Hezbollah in particular run hospitals, schools etc. I used them as an example of a political organiastaion that also provides charaitable services much like the Mormons.

Social services
Main article: Hezbollah social services
Hezbollah organizes an extensive social development program and runs hospitals, news services, educational facilities, and encouragement of Nikah mut‘ah.[SUP][82][/SUP][SUP][90][/SUP] One of its established institutions, Jihad Al Binna's Reconstruction Campaign, is responsible for numerous economic and infrastructure development projects in Lebanon.[SUP][91][/SUP] Hezbollah has set up a Martyr's Institute (Al-Shahid Social Association), which guarantees to provide living and education expenses "for the families of fighters who die" in battle.[SUP][84][/SUP] An IRIN news report of the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs noted:
"Hezbollah not only has armed and political wings – it also boasts an extensive social development program. Hezbollah currently operates at least four hospitals, twelve clinics, twelve schools and two agricultural centres that provide farmers with technical assistance and training. It also has an environmental department and an extensive social assistance program. Medical care is also cheaper than in most of the country's private hospitals and free for Hezbollah members."[SUP][82][/SUP]
According to CNN, "Hezbollah did everything that a government should do, from collecting the garbage to running hospitals and repairing schools."[SUP][92][/SUP] In July 2006, during the war with Israel, when there was no running water in Beirut, Hezbollah was arranging supplies around the city. Lebanese Shiites "see Hezbollah as a political movement and a social service provider as much as it is a militia."[SUP][92][/SUP] Hezbollah also rewards its guerilla members who have been wounded in battle by taking them to Hezbollah-run amusement parks.[SUP][93][/SUP]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizbullah#Social_services
 
But, but, but butbut but it's American.... It's...er... american...and its ... err.... republican...and
well, gee, it's the American dream.... isn't it?

Note: Joseph Smith was a fraudster and a charlatan, Noah Webster was a charlatan (at least). Fine foundations! Well, it's all they have...that and massacred natives... and ... yeah.

Would you care to spend some time on all of the native populations the British have killed?
Nan; you want to brry your head up your Queens ass and pretend that it never occured.
 
Would you care to spend some time on all of the native populations the British have killed?
Nan; you want to brry your head up your Queens ass and pretend that it never occured.

Compared to the Spanish, Dutch, French, Germans, Portuguese and indeed Americans surprisingly few.
 
Hamas and Hezbollah do a lot of charity work as well. The primary motivation of the LDS is to recruit new members else why would they send over 53,000 shiny faced volunteers all over the world to knock on people's doors? Their greatest coup would be to get one of their own in the White House.

Why the hell does this bother you so much?
Are you thinking of joining; because if not, then what they do has no bearing on you.
And what do you FEEL would occur, if a Morman became President; because obviously you haven't thought this out?

Wanted to add this also.
Your comparison to Hamas and Hezbollah is a strawman; unless you want to cite the number of people that the Mormons ARE killing or how many suicide bombers they've backed.
 
His fair share would be a percentage, not a number. I pay way more than 13%, and I'll bet it's the same for millions.

And it IS A PERCENTAGE....its the law.

As long as you obey the law......thats what we all do....including Romney....

Why no mention that ABC News uncovered that White House Senior Adviser Valerie Jarrett has up to a quarter million dollar line of credit in Bermuda

According to the Weekly Standard, DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz also has a history of overseas investments.

Daily Caller, and they point out that Nancy Pelosi has investments in an LLC company, $1 to $5 million, investing in Asia.

How about Robert Wolf, Obama golfing buddy and Charles Adams a big bundler who has raised more than a half million dollars for Barack Obama, in charge of what -- Swiss bank accounts.

Double standard ?
 
Double standard ?

Romney is a candidate for president.

Incumbent Obama has released multiple years of his tax returns.

How many has multimillionaire Mittzie released?

Double standard.

Poor Blabo.
 
That's what I am talking about, comparing the various empires.

But your post was just lame a attempt to change the discussion from the dumbass comment LowIQ made and my response to him.
I've noticed lately that you've found it necessary to try and either defend LowIQ's comments, or at the very least to change the discussion.
I'm curious as to why that is.
 
But your post was just lame a attempt to change the discussion from the dumbass comment LowIQ made and my response to him.
I've noticed lately that you've found it necessary to try and either defend LowIQ's comments, or at the very least to change the discussion.
I'm curious as to why that is.

I posted something just the other day about the Chinese in Africa and how they are behaving like modern slave owners
 
Why the hell does this bother you so much?
Are you thinking of joining; because if not, then what they do has no bearing on you.
And what do you FEEL would occur, if a Morman became President; because obviously you haven't thought this out?

Wanted to add this also.
Your comparison to Hamas and Hezbollah is a strawman; unless you want to cite the number of people that the Mormons ARE killing or how many suicide bombers they've backed.

I think the Mormons are an insidious shadowy organisation not unlike Freemasons. I never insinuated that the LDS are terrorists.
 
that is quite amusing. Why is it the left looks at 'percentage' when talking about paying 'their fair share', yet when tax cuts happen they focus on the dollars per capita rather than the percentage of income?
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Yeah....half of the country pay 0% but that doesn't seem to matter......while another, rather small group pays 70% of the entire income tax collected....
 
\\Yeah....half of the country pay 0% but that doesn't seem to matter......while another, rather small group pays 70% of the entire income tax collected....

Who said it was fair?

Poor Blabo.
 
You don't accept that the Mormons own casinos, you can't be that naive?

Bill Marriott is the son of the founder of Marriott International, and the current CEO of the company, clearly with power to regulate his hotels. He's also a member of the 6th Quorum of the Seventy, a high-ranking position in the LDS Church. The Marriot chain have casinos, porn and prostitutes in their hotels all of which are specifically banned by Mormonism.

So, if I find a Catholic somewhere that has a Casino that would mean Catholics were a business? You are reaching for the stupid and grasping it with both hands.
 
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