Who's historically better at job creation?

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Since 1961, 18 million more jobs were created when Democrats were in the White House than when Republicans were in charge.

Republicans are considered the business-friendly party, while 'tax and spend' Democrats are regarded as redistributionists eager to transfer wealth from those who have it to those who don't.

The lazy stereotype doesn't hold up against the numbers.




http://theweek.com/article/index/233029/are-democrats-better-than-republicans-at-creating-jobs
 
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Since 1961, 18 million more jobs were created when Democrats were in the White House than when Republicans were in charge.

Republicans are considered the business-friendly party, while 'tax and spend' Democrats are regarded as redistributionists eager to transfer wealth from those who have it to those who don't.

The lazy stereotype doesn't hold up against the numbers.




http://theweek.com/article/index/233029/are-democrats-better-than-republicans-at-creating-jobs
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Why did you pick 1961?
 
FactsRStubborn said:
Why did they pick 1961? Tell me the significance of that year for the data and I will kindly respond
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That's what the article chose as a starting point. It shows, like Bill Clinton explained in his convention speech, that since 1961 the republicans have been in office for 28 years and the Democrats have been in office for only 24 years. Further, it explains that the Democrats have overseen the creation of 66 million new jobs while the repubs have only seen the creation of 42 million jobs. I'm operating off of memory here but I believe the numbers are correct.
 
GayturdMan said:
That's what the article chose as a starting point. It shows, like Bill Clinton explained in his convention speech, that since 1961 the republicans have been in office for 28 years and the Democrats have been in office for only 24 years. Further, it explains that the Democrats have overseen the creation of 66 million new jobs while the repubs have only seen the creation of 42 million jobs. I'm operating off of memory here but I believe the numbers are correct.
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So we're supposed to believe a man who was impeached and disbarred for lying under oath? We're supposed to accept that history began in 1961, and everything which happened before, must be ignored? AND we're supposed to presume that no president has ever gotten credit for jobs which were the result of his predecessors policies? We've seen the way you dishonest punks play, and we're on to you. This kind of manipulation of facts is not going to fly anymore, but good luck trying!

For the record, presidents and politicians don't create jobs, and neither do political parties. They can do things that are more or less conducive to job creation. They can implement policies which give incentives to create jobs. They can make things more favorable to job creators, in the hopes it will result in new jobs. They simply can't create new jobs. If these people had the ability to do that, we'd see virtually NO unemployment come election time! That said, Obama has done NONE of the things that are indicative of job creation. He is hostile toward the private sector, at war with the US Commerce department, and pretty much an avowed Marxist who doesn't believe in private sector jobs anyway. He promised the stimulus would keep unemployment from rising above 8%, and it hasn't been below 8% since he has been president.
 
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Since 1961, 18 million more jobs were created when Democrats were in the White House than when Republicans were in charge.

Republicans are considered the business-friendly party, while 'tax and spend' Democrats are regarded as redistributionists eager to transfer wealth from those who have it to those who don't.

The lazy stereotype doesn't hold up against the numbers.




http://theweek.com/article/index/233029/are-democrats-better-than-republicans-at-creating-jobs
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The creation of jobs is determined NOT by history but by present economic circumstances. The fact that some jobs go overseas is not necessarily a bad thing (see law of comparative advantage: D Ricardo). Look at where jobs come from. Do they come from existing 'do-it-again' businesses or from new innovative organisations? (I ask, I do not answer). Who are the largest employers in the US? Walmart? MacDonalds? (guess only). Will Walmart and MacDonalds get the economy moving?
What is the US good at? Computers and what?
Like the UK you have crumbling factory buildings occupied only by rats. like the UK you have millions of good workers sitting on their arses. Like the UK you have thousands of people with good ideas.
Like the UK, your politicians cannot see that by putting these three elements together you must succeed.
I would like to see the ultimate reality show where towns compete with towns and in each town groups of people determined to create profitable 'stuff' compete with each other. Town A has x thousand square feet of space, n thousand out of work people and z hundred people who would do something if they could.
GIVE the premises. Abolish taxes for a period, until profit. Pay a minimum wage from government coffers until they get on their feet. Every week the weakest in each town gets chucked out.
Sponsorship by the government/Gates/Buffet/Trump/whatever.
It would be like Big Brother and the Apprentice plus a Brit prog, Dragons Den, rolled into one.
I would take the TV rights!
 
Dixie said:
So we're supposed to believe a man who was impeached and disbarred for lying under oath?
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Was the Bureau of Labor Statistics impeached and disbarred for lying under oath?



According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, here are the net increases in private-sector employment under each president, chronologically by party:

Republicans

Richard Nixon: Increase of 7.1 million jobs
Gerald Ford: Increase of 1.3 million jobs
Ronald Reagan: Increase of 14.7 million jobs
George H.W. Bush: Increase of 1.5 million jobs
George W. Bush: Decline of 646,000 jobs

Total: Increase of 23.9 million jobs

Democrats

John F. Kennedy: Increase of 2.7 million jobs
Lyndon B. Johnson: Increase of 9.5 million jobs
Jimmy Carter: Increase of 9.0 million jobs
Bill Clinton: Increase of 20.8 million jobs
Barack Obama: Increase of 332,000 jobs



Total: Increase of 42.3 million jobs.



So Clinton is right.



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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...linton-says-democratic-presidents-top-republ/
 
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Was the Bureau of Labor Statistics impeached and disbarred for lying under oath?



According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, here are the net increases in private-sector employment under each president, chronologically by party:

Republicans

Richard Nixon: Increase of 7.1 million jobs
Gerald Ford: Increase of 1.3 million jobs
Ronald Reagan: Increase of 14.7 million jobs
George H.W. Bush: Increase of 1.5 million jobs
George W. Bush: Decline of 646,000 jobs

Total: Increase of 23.9 million jobs

Democrats

John F. Kennedy: Increase of 2.7 million jobs
Lyndon B. Johnson: Increase of 9.5 million jobs
Jimmy Carter: Increase of 9.0 million jobs
Bill Clinton: Increase of 20.8 million jobs
Barack Obama: Increase of 332,000 jobs



Total: Increase of 42.3 million jobs.



So Clinton is right.



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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...linton-says-democratic-presidents-top-republ/
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Are you saying that the only thing that impacts job creation is the President?
 
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Nope.
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The president (government) can have a small effect upon the creation of jobs. You, more than anyone, run a market economy. That basically means that if I can see a way to make money by making gizmos and selling them I will. The tax breaks and other fiscal policies dont kick in until much later.
Creativity makes jobs not tax rates, Joe the plumber was proved to be a fool within a nano second of opening his stupid mouth. You need a nationwide audit. You have everything you need to increase the number of jobs and the amount of pay. Unfortunately Americans and Europeans have been told for so long that they can do nothing about it that now they do nothing about it.
 
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