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For what?
Women carying firewood targeted as "insurgents" AfPak
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For what?
How many? Yemen/Somalia/AfPak.../Iraq is blowing up themseves - does one count that as our killings?
I dunno, counting, and 'collateral damage' (s.i.c.) are but one measure of wars 'security actions' etc. BAC posted we're backing the same group as AQ is in Syria.
What are we getting back? Outright in our face hatred, and loathing of western culture. Islamic state, thisgs that are going to cause us problems, unless we finally learn to quit the cowboy foreign policy.
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What cowboy foreign policy?
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Religion, are you having a laugh? There is no religion on Earth that justifies beheading people for listening to music, I'm sorry but I can't take you seriously when you come out with crap like that!
it's not my religion, take it up with the Muslims; better yet if we find it so barbaric, my question to you becomes "Why are we partnering with such a religion in Afpak?"
There is no serious good answer for that, my friend.
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So you think we are partnering the Taliban now?
Pretty sure we killed some people in Libya too.
where did you get that from my response/ this thread? Are you just gonna ask endless questions, or is there a point to this?
Reason I ask is obviously if we are KILLING the Taliban, and they are KILLING us, outright declared hostilities, the answer would be "no"
At least on the face of it.
The Taliban have infiltrated Afg National Forces ( a main reason for blue on green killings) -so in a way the answer is also a yes.
Since we are partnering with these folks.
Whom are we partnering with....actually that's a good question... we're partnering with a shifting bunch of charaters (Karzai), and an infiltratd security force.
I guess Id have to characterize this as we're partnering with ghosts, now they support you, then they dissapear, or covertly join the Taliban, or Haqqani.
My turn for a question: Is there any conceivable way you see this working out to advance US/NATO interests?
blackascoal
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U.S. to Partner with Taliban...Instead of Killing Them
As reported by the London Telegraph, new U.S. special envoy Marc Grossman, "Mr. Appeasement," ...err, "Mr Reconciliation," is busy completing the diplomatic side of our miserably failed COIN strategy which will deliver Afghanistan to the Taliban.
A Western official in Kabul confirmed the United States was in direct contact with the Taliban following a sea change in American policy this year. Marc Grossman, the replacement for special envoy Richard Holbrooke, has been nicknamed "Mr. Reconciliation" and told to focus efforts on trying to facilitate a political deal which would ease a US exit. "Those are no longer preconditions, they are being seen as negotiated outcomes," said the Western official. In February, Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State, said the US would no longer insist on preconditions such as the need for the Taliban to renounce al-Qaeda and accept the Afghan constitution. Such declarations could be made after a deal had been reached. The pursuit of "reconciliation" in Afghanistan will be high on the agenda in talks between Mr. Obama and Mr. Cameron in London next week.
Inspirational Marine Warrior, Gunnery Sgt. Brian M. Blonder, who was awarded the Navy Cross for courageous, lethal service to the U.S., i.e., killing our jihadist Taliban enemies in Afghanistan -- not drinking tea with them.
Blonder's unabashed account was reported by the Marine Corps, as follows:
Blonder remembers the triumphant and tiring day vividly. From the rifle fire Sgt. Frank Simmons bestowed upon the enemy, killing "countless' insurgents with single shots to the head or chest, to the accurate sniper fire of Staff Sgt. Richard Powell, Blonder said he'll wear the Navy Cross as a representation of the Marines he fought alongside that day. The victory disrupted several Taliban unit networks, which Blonder said crippled Taliban spirits in southern Afghanistan.
Alas the brave actions of Gunnery Sgt. Blonder and many intrepid stalwarts like him-which flew in the face of the delusive Petraeus COIN doctrine and its self-abasing and self-destructive mantra, "drink lots of tea, eats lots of goat, get to know the people" of "partnering" with the irredentist Afghan Muslim tribesmen-appear to have been for naught.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/05/us_to_partner_with_talibaninst.html
US steps up face-to-face peace talks with Taliban
The United States has stepped up face-to-face peace talks with the Taliban, holding at least three meetings in Qatar and Germany in recent days with figures believed to be close to Mullah Omar, the group's leader.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...up-face-to-face-peace-talks-with-Taliban.html
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It's the problem with our system. We've got an obscene amount of rights for american citizens, however if you aren't a citizen, we give zero F***'s about you our your rights.
I've yet to figure out how it's moral to do to somebody who is not a citizen what isn't moral to do to somebody who is.
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See US foreign policy over last 12 years.