Were rapper's Second & Fourth Amendment rights violated?

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According to a press release from local police, the "Hot in Here" rapper was detained Wednesday night during a routine search at a border-patrol checkpoint in the town of Sierra Blanca, Texas.




The bus search was conducted after a police dog detected the presence of drugs.




The officers at the scene found 0.64 ounces of heroin distributed among 36 small plastic bags, more than 10 pounds of marijuana and a loaded .45-caliber pistol.





http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1695390/nelly-tour-bus-raid.jhtml
 
On a different note .. that corridor Nelly was stopped in has been a trap for many a celebrity tour bus.

It's the same place that Willie Nelson, Snoop Dogg, Fiona Apple, and others have been stopped and had drugs confiscated.

On just the simple does it make sense level .. does it make sense to drive that route when you have drugs in your bus and you know that the police are anxious to stop you?
 
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I'd like to hear this, my week hasn't been so great, I could use a laugh.
use Mich. dept. of police vs. Sitz as an example. This case concerned DUI checkpoints against the 4th Amendment.

the 4th Amendment reads - "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

so using the text of the 4th Amendment, this would make DUI checkpoints unconstitutional since simply driving down the highway offers no reasonable suspicion for police to stop a vehicle. This is spelled out in numerous court cases that police are not allowed to stop a vehicle without reasonable suspicion that the driver has committed a crime, is committing a crime, or is about to commit a crime.

The US Supreme court, in the opinion cited above, wrote that even though DUI checkpoints do violate the 4th Amendment, that the governments interest in stopping drunk driving was substantial enough to meet a reasonable search and seizure, provided the checkpoints meet certain criteria.

thus DUI checkpoints are unconstitutional, but legal because the courts said so.

another example would be the federal governments prohibition of marijuana possession. The framers of the constitution gave zero power to the central government, in any portion of the constitution, that allowed them to prohibit possession of anything, yet by using a bunch of legalese and word speak, the courts allowed that prohibition by simply stating that even possession without traffic in interstate or intrastate commerce, affected that commerce. so prohibiting possession of an item is unconstitutional, but legal.
 
when i was 19 i challenged a DUI stop. i was all up in the cop's face, from the seat of my car, telling him he had no authority to pull my car over. my brother was telling me to STFU, but i was having none of that. then the cop said, i will arrest you and you will spend the night in jail unless you submit.

i submitted.

let freedom ring.
 
when i was 19 i challenged a DUI stop. i was all up in the cop's face, from the seat of my car, telling him he had no authority to pull my car over. my brother was telling me to STFU, but i was having none of that. then the cop said, i will arrest you and you will spend the night in jail unless you submit.

i submitted.

let freedom ring.

yay america
 
imperfect - yes

i will live in this country over any other country. period. imagine if my loud mouth made that comment in north korea, russia, saudi arabia....

this country is the greatest country on the planet at this time.
I fail to see how you can call it a 'free' country when a police officer can arrest you at any time, just because, and if you resist you could be killed.
 
I fail to see how you can call it a 'free' country when a police officer can arrest you at any time, just because, and if you resist you could be killed.

The majority of police in the UK are against the routine carrying of weapons because they believe that the concept of consensual policing would be lost like it is in the States.
 
Tell the forum how you would react to an unconstitutional search and seizure, SmarterThanFew.
 
The majority of police in the UK are against the routine carrying of weapons because they believe that the concept of consensual policing would be lost like it is in the States.
too many police in the US have changed their viewpoint on their gun as an enforcement tool and not a defense tool. it's pretty frickin sad.
 
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