Reuters: White House TOLD OF militant claim two hours after LIBYA ATTACK, emails show

Some Lybians hated Quadaffi, some loved him. I do not pretend, never have, that all Lybians wanted him ousted, if that were the case they would not have needed NATO.

AL Queda hated him, not the Libyan people.

Al Queda hated him because he threw them in jail .. and the so-called 'rebels' let them out.

That alone should have you thinking about what you think you know.

Al Queda tgerrorists neededs NATO .. which is why the so-called 'rebellion' came from Benghazi, home of Al Queda terrorists .. many of whom admitted that they killed American troops in Iraq. That's Obama's posse.

Including these monsters .. The Brigade to Rid Libya of Black Skin

Human rights investigations - Racist rebel atrocities in Libya
http://humanrightsinvestigations.org/2011/08/31/amnesty-racist-rebel-atrocities-libya/
 
Carney did not hammer home that it was the video in BENGHAZI from anything I have seen. The transcript of what you posted proves you wrong. You just seem to be under the impression that Cairo and Benghazi (or Egypt and Lybia or the Middle East and Lybia) are synonyms, represent the same area and/or can be mixed interchangeably into a sentence and it does not change the intent of the speaker. That is WRONG! Further, it is dishonest and just stupid.

This shows that you did not read the transcript. The press called him out on his reference to the video numerous times with regards to BENGHAZI... not Cairo. You are the one who seems to think the two are the same. Try to actually read the transcript. You continue to proclaim you want an honest/intelligent discussion, only to once again resort to dishonesty/petulance.

If you have something else, please post it. All I have seen so far is a press secretary that was trying hard to clarify a complicated situation to a press corps that seemed intent on finding a simple minded solution that would allow them to create one narrative for everything.

LMAO... you truly have an interesting spin. It was the press corp that kept trying to get him to say that something else might have been the reason behind the attack. It was CARNEY who kept trying to make it a simple minded solution with one narrative for the entire region. You are being blatantly dishonest to proclaim otherwise.
 
But what do you think air support would have accomplished?

It could have possibly saved the Ambassador's life. Our fighter jets could have strafed the attackers and dispersed them before they got to the Ambassador and killed him. It's not a guarantee that this would have worked, but it wasn't attempted, we did nothing! Instead, Obama failed to take action and went on with his routine as scheduled, and sent his people out to LIE about this for two weeks.

I can tell you this, if I were president and someone started attacking our consulate or embassy in a country where I had fighter jets less than an hour away, there would be a response and it would be swift and brutal, and I really wouldn't give two fucks if the attacks were over a video OR a planned terrorist attack! These are OUR PEOPLE!
 
First off, you are completely wrong about what they knew from the emails and I think your time period is wrong as well.

But what do you think air support would have accomplished?

Air support could have attacked the mortar sites. Air support can certainly rattle the attackers confidence as well. Air support could also have attacked the attackers. It could have been there within an hour.

Also, I seriously doubt the President handles his own travel plans or that his movements are impulsive actions where details are left to the last minute. When you keep going on about that nonsense it only shows what a hack you are.

LMAO... you think he could not have CANCELLED his fundraising trip and returned to Washington? LMAO... once again your partisan colors are showing. The President most certainly can change/adjust his travel plans (especially for a fundraiser) at the last minute and he most certainly should do so when Americans are under attack on American soil.
 
Air support could have attacked the mortar sites. Air support can certainly rattle the attackers confidence as well. Air support could also have attacked the attackers. It could have been there within an hour.

LMAO... you think he could not have CANCELLED his fundraising trip and returned to Washington? LMAO... once again your partisan colors are showing. The President most certainly can change/adjust his travel plans (especially for a fundraiser) at the last minute and he most certainly should do so when Americans are under attack on American soil.

I did not say a damn thing about whether he could have canceled his plans or not! That's just another strawman. To restate the point that you are trying so hard to spin out of context, the President was not likely engaged in last minute travel plans or the details of his Vegas trip. That's just partisan hackery and kind of screws your guys other narrative that he was engaged in some sort of cover up.

Wouldn't air support need to know where the mortar sites were? You don't seem to understand what a mess Lybia is.
 
Libya is a mess and Stevens was probably dead within the first hour of the attack. One could challenge whether we should have went into Libya at all as Napolitano has or maybe that we should have went in with greater force as McCain might. But, Metoo Romney and the partisan hacks that are trying to make a political issue of this are not doing either. They are just trying to nitpick a bad situation and show terrorists how they can effectively disrupt us.

There have been hints an innuendos claiming a cover up but no proof of it.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-libya-militias-20121025,0,5744298.story


BENGHAZI, Libya — The U.S. ambassador was missing, his compound was in flames and the safe house where survivors took shelter had come under fire. But the U.S. rescue team had to wait, stymied by the disarray in post-revolutionary Libya.

The eight-member American team had rushed here from the Libyan capital, Tripoli, arriving at the airport about 2 a.m. on Sept. 12, hours after the attack on the U.S. mission that killed Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and State Department staffer Sean Smith. The rescuers needed a ride to a second U.S. facility where more than 20 Americans were waiting to be evacuated.

Instead, they sat at the airport for about 45 minutes while Libyans tried to organize an escort. After the rescue team finally reached the safe house, the attackers struck again, hitting the compound with mortar rounds and killing two more Americans, former Navy SEALs Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods.

Although it is unclear whether a quicker Libyan response could have ensured that the Americans, including Doherty and Woods, were out of the safe house before it was hit the second time, the delay does underscore the messy security situation a year after the revolution that ended Moammar Kadafi's rule. Militias rather than the central government are responsible for security across the country, and Libyans involved in the operation said the slow response was due to confusion between government officials and militia leaders.

"It was our first time in an operation like this," said Qais Ben Hamid, a deputy commander in Benghazi for Libya Shield, the pro-government militia that led the evacuation and is widely seen as the precursor to a new national army.

Libyan officials have pledged to help bring the Americans' attackers to justice, but they also face a more fundamental challenge: cobbling together a new army and police out of Kadafi's discredited security forces and the militias that sprang up during the revolution.

Militias are responsible for keeping the peace, arresting suspects and guarding sensitive facilities such as hospitals and diplomatic missions, including the U.S. diplomatic outpost in Benghazi. Many of the largest armed groups report to the military chief of staff in Tripoli, forming a shadow army far more powerful than the official forces.
But the various groups don't always communicate effectively — a major reason for the confusion in the early hours of Sept. 12.

With Stevens lost in the initial raid on the U.S. mission, survivors were brought around midnight to a second U.S. facility, a compound that included multiple villas and reportedly was used by CIA agents. The Americans huddled in a small room and tried to call the embassy in Tripoli to send reinforcements, but cellphones and satellite phones didn't work in the house. Some ventured outside to find a signal, only to come under mortar fire, according to a U.S. intelligence officer familiar with events.
The eight eventually were dispatched from Tripoli to evacuate those at the safe house. U.S. officials have not provided details about the team, describing it only as a "quick reaction force."

Senior commanders with Libya Shield described a succession of hurried cellphone calls between Tripoli and Benghazi after the U.S. security team reached the airport, more than four hours after the attack began.

At first, Ben Hamid said, officials in Tripoli tried to dispatch members of a Kadafi-era military unit called the saeqa, Libya's version of the special forces, to escort the U.S. security team to the second house. The unit defected at the start of the revolution in February 2011 under Gen. Abdul Fatah Younis, who became the rebels' first military commander — and was killed by other rebels in an attack that underscored deep suspicions among the anti-Kadafi forces.

But the saeqa, a smaller force than Libya Shield, didn't respond to the call — a failure that experts say may actually have been for the better. Tainted by its ties to the old regime, the force's presence could have worsened tensions with Libyan civilians and another pro-government militia, the Feb. 17 Martyrs Brigade, a group of former revolutionaries who were the first to reach the scene.

"If these guys had any whiff of being … remnants of the national army, their legitimacy in the east is nil," said Frederic Wehrey, an expert on Libyan armed groups at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington.

An official at the Tripoli airport then called Libya Shield's commander in Benghazi on his cellphone. It took nearly an hour for Fathi Obeidi, the group's commander for special operations, to reach the eight Americans. He then ferried them from the airport in eastern Benghazi to the compound on the southern edge of the city in two Toyota Land Cruisers.

Complicating matters that morning was the fact that the chief of staff, Youssef Mangoush, was on an official visit to Turkey and could not be easily reached on his cellphone, said Saleh B. Gaouda, a member of the Libyan parliament's national security committee, who was involved in the communications.

"Benghazi is far from the capital and it's still not clear even how orders from the government are to be sent to officials on the ground," Gaouda said.

Minutes after the eight and their Libyan escort reached the annex, where U.S. security personnel had taken up positions on rooftops, they came under attack from mortar rounds and gunfire, Obeidi said.

Charlene Lamb, a senior State Department official, told Congress this month that the compound suffered "as many as three direct hits."

Later that morning, the Americans finally left Benghazi in two aircraft, including a C-130 transport plane that carried the bodies of the four dead, Obeidi said.
 
What the fuck I am talking about is SF's post, shit-for-brains!

No, what you are doing is what Obama ass-kissers always do, finding something else to blame his incompetence on! You and this man have never taken responsibility for anything, ever! It's always someone elses fault, someone else to blame, some reason or excuse for why he failed to do what he said, more reasons and excuses for why he failed to act. I am thoroughly convinced, we could anoint Obama King for Life, and in 40 years, you'd STILL be blaming his failures on someone else! There's ALWAYS going to be some reason or excuse as to why he has FAILED! And it's NEVER going to be HIS fault! That we can depend on.
 
No, what you are doing is what Obama ass-kissers always do, finding something else to blame his incompetence on! You and this man have never taken responsibility for anything, ever! It's always someone elses fault, someone else to blame, some reason or excuse for why he failed to do what he said, more reasons and excuses for why he failed to act. I am thoroughly convinced, we could anoint Obama King for Life, and in 40 years, you'd STILL be blaming his failures on someone else! There's ALWAYS going to be some reason or excuse as to why he has FAILED! And it's NEVER going to be HIS fault! That we can depend on.


LOL:

 
No, what you are doing is what Obama ass-kissers always do, finding something else to blame his incompetence on! You and this man have never taken responsibility for anything, ever! It's always someone elses fault, someone else to blame, some reason or excuse for why he failed to do what he said, more reasons and excuses for why he failed to act. I am thoroughly convinced, we could anoint Obama King for Life, and in 40 years, you'd STILL be blaming his failures on someone else! There's ALWAYS going to be some reason or excuse as to why he has FAILED! And it's NEVER going to be HIS fault! That we can depend on.

Fuck off you fat piece of shit! The situation in Benghazi has nothing at all to do with me no matter how many ad homs you attempt. I take responsibility for everything I have done but maybe you and your stalker friends think you know something different?

Obama's fault in this situation is just what Napolitano said it was. He proceeded with a bad plan and now has a messy situation to deal with. Whiners and nit pickers are now tearing apart every little thing that is going wrong but they fail to offer any coherent alternative and never have offered any coherent alternative. It is very much like the Democrats that went along with Iraq until the bodies started coming home. Some of the NON-PARTISAN critics knew where it was all headed and don't need to create dark fantasies of pure evil and good to understand that shit happens.

Perfection is not an option but there are better alternatives. It is not in Metoo Romney.
 
Obama's fault in this situation is just what Napolitano said it was. He proceeded with a bad plan and now has a messy situation to deal with.

Yes, his "plan" was to do nothing and carry on with his regularly-scheduled fundraising activities, while LYING to the American people about what this was. I agree, it was a VERY BAD plan! I also agree, it's now a very messy situation for Obama!
 
Yes, his "plan" was to do nothing and carry on with his regularly-scheduled fundraising activities, while LYING to the American people about what this was. I agree, it was a VERY BAD plan! I also agree, it's now a very messy situation for Obama!

Again, you pull shit out of context to make some STUPID and petty little point. You are nothing but a coward.
 
Where is this first hand account? It's not in the emails.

[Updated at 12:23 p.m. ET] A grenade attack created a fire in the U.S. consulate building in Benghazi, which created a very complicated and complex situation for those inside, according to a senior U.S. official familiar with the details of what happened.

"Folks inside were fighting the fire inside and the attackers outside. It was a cascading casualty, and Amb. Chris Stevens and the others got separated trying to escape to the roof of the building, ultimately succumbing to smoke inhalation," the U.S. official told CNN's Jill Dougherty. "There will be more details as we go forward, but there were several valiant attempts to re-enter the burning building to find and save the ones we lost. Valiant but unsuccessful."

Another senior official with the State Department confirmed the details as well.
 
Again, you pull shit out of context to make some STUPID and petty little point. You are nothing but a coward.

There is nothing out of context, that IS what happened. Our consulate was attacked by terrorists, we knew within 2 hours, this was the case, and the president chose to do nothing. He went on with his fundraising as planned, and sent his cronies out to spin this lie about the "spontaneous uprising" which they are still trying to run back to, even as it has been completely discredited.
 
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