It's official - I'm no longer a Republican

[LadyT]

NO

it's not. NEVER go to those liberal traitors. Stay the fuck away from the party of the takers. They will suck you in like the song of the sirens and before you know it "helping poor people" isn't really all that bad. You'll start supporting more and more social programs until They TAKE (big surprise) your SOUL and then you will become a taker yourself. Once you become a taker, it's almost impossible to ever come back. Why would a taker ever stop taking?

They will take your guns to disarm you and pretty soon they will be shoving carrots up your ass to give you a hyper injection of vitimin c because they don't even want you to eat meat on mondays. They will stop at nothing, whether it's money, guns, or cows, they will take it all away from you.

carrots up the ass. sounds like a good plan, I think a lot of republicans can be on board with that. Now that we have all of this "political capital" we should use it to impose carrot rape Mondays. I'm hoping we can get it in with Free Abortion Friday.

 

[Lowaicue]

We tend to be blunt.

Or dull?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

no

we'll go with outright dishonest then.....

 

[signalmankenneth]

NO

it's not. NEVER go to those liberal traitors. Stay the fuck away from the party of the takers. They will suck you in like the song of the sirens and before you know it "helping poor people" isn't really all that bad. You'll start supporting more and more social programs until They TAKE (big surprise) your SOUL and then you will become a taker yourself. Once you become a taker, it's almost impossible to ever come back. Why would a taker ever stop taking?

They will take your guns to disarm you and pretty soon they will be shoving carrots up your ass to give you a hyper injection of vitimin c because they don't even want you to eat meat on mondays. They will stop at nothing, whether it's money, guns, or cows, they will take it all away from you.

 

[signalmankenneth]

I've resigned from the Republican Party, of which I have been a dues-paying member since 2008. While I will continue to support some GOP candidates (when they are the best person for the job), I no longer believe it is possible for me to make a difference through the Republican Party. This may change in the future...but as it stands, it appears the days of moderate voices are gone, having been forced to pretend they're right-wingers in order to "rally the base."

I am also giving serious thought to joining the Democratic Party. However, I am a little apprehensive about this for a few reasons. First, I'm proud of the fact that I supported Mitt Romney with my time, money, and vote - I'd do it again without hesitation. And while I agree with Democrats on women's rights, gay rights, climate change, and taxes on the wealthy (for the most part), I disagree with them sharply on healthcare and the role of government in the economy. So I guess the question would be: is the Democratic tent big enough for me?

 

[ekg]

we'll go with outright dishonest then.....

your better than that. I don't always agree with you, but flinging an insult for no reason on someone you don't know? beneath you.

I was offering an answer to Heisenberg's question.. and then one to yours...even though I doubted it was a real answer you were looking for, more you trying to pick a fight for some reason...but I answered anyway as 'PC' as possible to keep the civility level above kindergarten....

my analogy may have been quite hyperbolic, bombastic even.... but calling me dishonest? besides shutting down any hope of intelligent conversation.. was just a dick move. Saying instead I was 'in error' would have work just as succinctly to get your point across that you didn't agree with me and possibly elicited the start of an actual adult conversation..

then again, maybe I was wrong about you and adult conversation isn't something you're looking for at all.. *shrug*

good night..

 

[Mott the Hoople]

I've resigned from the Republican Party, of which I have been a dues-paying member since 2008. While I will continue to support some GOP candidates (when they are the best person for the job), I no longer believe it is possible for me to make a difference through the Republican Party. This may change in the future...but as it stands, it appears the days of moderate voices are gone, having been forced to pretend they're right-wingers in order to "rally the base."

I am also giving serious thought to joining the Democratic Party. However, I am a little apprehensive about this for a few reasons. First, I'm proud of the fact that I supported Mitt Romney with my time, money, and vote - I'd do it again without hesitation. And while I agree with Democrats on women's rights, gay rights, climate change, and taxes on the wealthy (for the most part), I disagree with them sharply on healthcare and the role of government in the economy. So I guess the question would be: is the Democratic tent big enough for me?

You're about 12 years late but welcome to the party.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

NO

it's not. NEVER go to those liberal traitors. Stay the fuck away from the party of the takers. They will suck you in like the song of the sirens and before you know it "helping poor people" isn't really all that bad. You'll start supporting more and more social programs until They TAKE (big surprise) your SOUL and then you will become a taker yourself. Once you become a taker, it's almost impossible to ever come back. Why would a taker ever stop taking?

They will take your guns to disarm you and pretty soon they will be shoving carrots up your ass to give you a hyper injection of vitimin c because they don't even want you to eat meat on mondays. They will stop at nothing, whether it's money, guns, or cows, they will take it all away from you.

Oh quit being a drama queen.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

your better than that. I don't always agree with you, but flinging an insult for no reason on someone you don't know? beneath you.

I was offering an answer to Heisenberg's question.. and then one to yours...even though I doubted it was a real answer you were looking for, more you trying to pick a fight for some reason...but I answered anyway as 'PC' as possible to keep the civility level above kindergarten....

my analogy may have been quite hyperbolic, bombastic even.... but calling me dishonest? besides shutting down any hope of intelligent conversation.. was just a dick move. Saying instead I was 'in error' would have work just as succinctly to get your point across that you didn't agree with me and possibly elicited the start of an actual adult conversation..

then again, maybe I was wrong about you and adult conversation isn't something you're looking for at all.. *shrug*

good night..

of course what I quoted from your comment was dishonest.....do you think there are people around here stupid enough to believe what I quoted was true?.......don't be ridiculous.....

 

[evince]

What exactly do you want the GOP to "oppose" you on? This is the kind of sophistry that makes you sound stupid.

You don't want opposition. I hear you demalquedacrats talk about wanting an opposition party, but whenever the GOP opposes what you do, it lights your tampon string on fire.

So explain

Are you tell me these things the OP outlined are the ONLY things you disagree with the Democratic party on?


jesus you dont even KNOW the republiucan party platform.

 

[ekg]

of course what I quoted from your comment was dishonest.....do you think there are people around here stupid enough to believe what I quoted was true?.......don't be ridiculous.....

what you quoted was statement based on facts..

Can you think of any other industry in our economy that allows for this type of 'profit' over the literal health of the consumer?

Not false at all.. insurance companies are required to make profits. they make money dropping sick policy-holders,denying claims or just never paying them. They make money by only insuring healthy people since healthy people simply pay into the kitty month after month, never using the services they have paid for. If they do need to use them years later, they find their claims denied or that their policies are raised..

from Wendell Potters testimony before congress.. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ez...ittee written testimony - 20090624- FINAL.pdf

To help meet Wall Street’s relentless profit expectations, insurers routinely dump policyholders who are less profitable or who get sick. Insurers have several ways to cull the sick from their rolls. One is policy rescission. They look carefully to see if a sick policyholder may have omitted a minor illness, a pre-existing condition, when applying for coverage, and then they use that as justification to cancel the policy, even if the enrollee has never missed a premium payment....

The Energy and Commerce Committee’s investigation into three insurers found that they canceled the coverage of roughly 20,000 people in a five-year period, allowing the companies to avoid paying $300 million in claims.

They also dump small businesses whose employees’ medical claims exceed what insurance underwriters expected. All it takes is one illness or accident among employees at a small business to prompt an insurance company to hike the next year’s premiums so high that the employer has to cut benefits, shop for another carrier, or stop offering coverage altogether leaving workers uninsured. The practice is known in the industry as ―purging.‖
in October 2006 when CIGNA notified the Entertainment Industry Group Insurance Trust that many of the Trust’s members in California and New Jersey would have to pay more than some of them earned in a year if they wanted to continue their coverage. The rate increase CIGNA planned to implement, according to USA Today, would have meant that some family-plan premiums would exceed $44,000 a year. CIGNA gave the enrollees less than three months to pay the new premiums or go elsewhere

Unless required by state law, insurers often refuse to tell customers how much of their premiums are actually being paid out in claims. A Houston employer could not get that information until the Texas legislature passed a law a few years ago requiring insurers to disclose it. That Houston employer discovered that its insurer was demanding a 22 percent rate increase in 2006 even though it had paid out only 9 percent of the employer’s premium dollars for care the year before

A study conducted last year by PricewaterhouseCoopers revealed just how successful the insurers’ expense management and purging actions have been over the last decade in meeting Wall Street’s expectations. The accounting firm found that the collective medical-loss ratios of the seven largest for-profit insurers fell from an average of 85.3 percent in 1998 to 81.6 percent in 2008. That translates into a difference of several billion dollars in favor of insurance company shareholders and executives and at the expense of health care providers and their patients.

and you quoted an admitted hyperbolic analogy..but still honest

If you paid your water company each month for 30/31 days of service and they came in and shut you off after 17 days then told you that they needed the rest of your monthly payment for their managerial functions and profit..

as mentioned in the testimony.. people were paying their policies for years and then denied coverage..(analogy~paying for 30 days and then stopping your water servic after 17 days) and in some cases demanding extraordinary raises in premiums.. and then keeping your payments for their benefits and not what you actually paid them for(analogy~for their managerial functions and profit..)..

nothing dishonest.. you might not like what I said, but calling it dishonest.. is well, dishonest...would you like to re-characterize your complaint to be more honest 'to people around here' yourself? or is that just ridiculous of me to think as well?

 

[DamnYankee]

... it lights your tampon string on fire...

 

[Rationalist]

I'm going to attend a Dem precinct meeting and see how I feel about it. In my county, I'll probably find enough moderates with whom I can agree on a multitude of issues. Unlike, say, King County, where it's probably a freak show...

 

[canceled.2021.1]

Are you tell me these things the OP outlined are the ONLY things you disagree with the Democratic party on?


jesus you dont even KNOW the republiucan party platform.

You really aren't that bright are you sweetcheeks? You would be a great Ambassador to Libya. I will pay for your flight.

My response was to you, not the OP. You said you want the GOP to be an opposition party. So what do you want them to oppose your demalquedacrats on?

 

[canceled.2021.1]

I'm going to attend a Dem precinct meeting and see how I feel about it. In my county, I'll probably find enough moderates with whom I can agree on a multitude of issues. Unlike, say, King County, where it's probably a freak show...

Why are you pretending to play this game? You are a liberal through and through. Teddy Roosevelt was a "progressive" and I see you quoting him. Just go home already and stop with the mental masturbation.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

I'm going to attend a Dem precinct meeting and see how I feel about it. In my county, I'll probably find enough moderates with whom I can agree on a multitude of issues. Unlike, say, King County, where it's probably a freak show...

No. Go to Libertarian meeting. You will find peace in your heart and righteousness in your soul. Repent your evil ways and join the TRUE heirs to our great republican legacy.

 

[Rationalist]

No. Go to Libertarian meeting. You will find peace in your heart and righteousness in your soul. Repent your evil ways and join the TRUE heirs to our great republican legacy.

Libertarians in my State are nuts. Many of them aren't even libertarian. Hell, they had a candidate a few years ago who proposed socialized medicine.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Libertarians in my State are nuts. Many of them aren't even libertarian. Hell, they had a candidate a few years ago who proposed socialized medicine.

Then wouldn't it be best for you to help shape them? Look not for whom you need but who needs you.

 

[Rune]

your better than that.

Uh, no.

I don't always agree with you,

I doubt you have ever agreed with him. It is extremely unlikely, since PiMP ALWAYS lies.

but flinging an insult for no reason on someone you don't know? beneath you.

Again, no. Exactly his MO.

I was offering an answer to Heisenberg's question.. and then one to yours...even though I doubted it was a real answer you were looking for, more you trying to pick a fight for some reason...but I answered anyway as 'PC' as possible to keep the civility level above kindergarten....

my analogy may have been quite hyperbolic, bombastic even.... but calling me dishonest? besides shutting down any hope of intelligent conversation.. was just a dick move. Saying instead I was 'in error' would have work just as succinctly to get your point across that you didn't agree with me and possibly elicited the start of an actual adult conversation..

Yes, now you are getting the idea.

then again, maybe I was wrong about you and adult conversation isn't something you're looking for at all.. *shrug*

good night..

Yup, you got it. This one is nothing but an oxygen bandit.

 

[Rune]

I'm going to attend a Dem precinct meeting and see how I feel about it. In my county, I'll probably find enough moderates with whom I can agree on a multitude of issues. Unlike, say, King County, where it's probably a freak show...

Don't bother.