the white vote in the south

evince said:
You people label yourselves as racists by supporting a party that uses it to collect voters.


To deny that the tacitics used by the republican party are racist is pure bullshit.

Ask the VAST majority of black people.


They and I agree your party uses racism to get racist to vote for your party.


You deny it by saying shit like "Oh those black people are JUST SAYING its racist to say this or that becuase they are liars who want to harm the republican party"


That is how you and your party defend this racism.


By denying that VAST majority of black people are insulted by your tactics and are just lying about it.


That right there is racism you fucking fool
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Except that you had no problem labelling me a racist without knowing who I voted for and without any more evidence than the fact that I am white and live in the south.

You don't see that as just as racist and bigotted as what you claim to hate?
 
Darla said:
Exit polls have been shown to be quite accurate in the past though. In fact, they have been used to track election fraud in other countries. Not in America of course when the election polling conflicted with the 2000 outcome. That doesn't mean they were wrong though.

Even so, let's say they're wrong. How wrong? 10% of white voters in Mississippi voted for Obama according to exit polls. Just how wrong is that number? How wrong would it have to be to even begin to make that number look like something that WASN'T greatly affected by racial animus?

I think you're taking this way too personally. NO one is saying you are a racist, and if Desh did say that, she is wrong about that. You're not. But on this very board Razor, Bravo, Alias, SJ, are all racists, openly so. There are at least five others, in fact, more, who are subtly racist, but definitely racist. Do you really believe that racisim had nothing to do with their vote against Obama? With their hatred for him? Come on, stop now.

It seems to me that you, WB, Sf, and many others here demand, demand, that no one mention that hey, there are a lot of fucking racists! And guess what? Yeah, it affects how they vote.

I see a lot of white Republican voters who become infuriated anytime a liberal mentions racism in their party, or on the part of Republican voters. Desh linked to an article that has some very, very, eyebrow-raising polling data. And that's all she did. You guys got really defensive over it. I think it's because many of you know there are many racists in your party. Or in WB's case, region. There are racists here too. I can't tell you how many people I know and have known who supported HIllary (and I don't mean PUMA's, I mean white men too, not PUMA's, who I don't even think really exist for the most part) and who will support her if she runs in 2016. They lean Democratic.

They have not cast one vote for Obama and have nothing good to say about him. Now someone can say oh it's because he's a socialist, but that's factually wrong. It's not opinion. It's factually wrong. Or someone can say it's because of this or that. But let's be real. Come on, let's just be real. I know they're fucking racists. I am not defensive about it because they vote Democrat often, or because they live in NY, or because we're both white. I think they're assholes. I'm not sensitive about it.
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I have never denied that there are racists. I even agree that a chunk of those who voted for someone other than Obama did so because of his race.

But the idea that every vote cast for anyone but Obama is a clear sign of racism is absolute nonsense. And the idea that exit polls give any sort of scientific evidence of anything is equally insane. With the crowds at the polls, the pollster could not possibly have gotten even a significant portion of the voters as they left. They would have had to pick who they asked.

It also ignores any social pressure on the voters. You let a small town guy vote for Obama and some pollster catches him outside the polls and in front of his redneck friends, what do you suppose his answer will be?

The polls also ignore every vote cast by mail or any early voting by any method.

And I still come back to the idea that Desh, in her rabid need to sling mud in every direction, felt completely comfortable calling me a racist, shows that she doesn't need any evidence. All it takes is that the person be white (and if they are from the south it is even easier). Having had a long family history of fighting racism, I find that offensive. But while Desh seems VERY concerned about what offends some people, she didn't seem worried at all about whether I actually am a racist or not. Throw WB in the mix too, why not?
 
Darla said:
Happy Thanksgiving btw! I have so much to do I won't be here for most of the week. I already feel tired thinking about it. Then I have to start Christmas cookie baking already, and then shopping. Every year I say that next year I am going to fly to an Island for the holidays. I don't know why I always forget to do that.

I hope everyone has a beautiful Thanksgiving and manages to give a moment's thought to those who have nothing, and to peace.

:)
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Happy Thanksgiving, Darla. Fly south and come by the Salvation Army kitchen in Huntsville and I'll find you a spot. Then you get to see what thanksgiving means. It beats any island vacation.
 
evince said:
Go ask the next ten black people you see on the street if they think the republican party uses racism to win elections.
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Ok, that I can do and will accept their opinion.

But you post numbers and then insist they prove racism. They prove nothing of the kind. But your own posts show that you are a racist and a bigot. I guess you won't own up to that, now will you?
 
WinterBorn said:
Ok, that I can do and will accept their opinion.

But you post numbers and then insist they prove racism. They prove nothing of the kind. But your own posts show that you are a racist and a bigot. I guess you won't own up to that, now will you?
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Not to mention that she completely ignores the actual FACT that a very similar number of white people in Mississippi voted for Kerry (14%) as they did Obama (10%)
 
Maybe the neocons will get more than 10 percent of he black vote next time.
One thing is for sure, the courtship hasn't started yet!
 
Superfreak said:
Not to mention that she completely ignores the actual FACT that a very similar number of white people in Mississippi voted for Kerry (14%) as they did Obama (11%)
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She actually believes that proves racism as well because the white people in Mississippi want to vote against the candidate that black people support. And this comes from a person who says "facts" matter.
 
Superfreak said:
Not to mention that she completely ignores the actual FACT that a very similar number of white people in Mississippi voted for Kerry (14%) as they did Obama (10%)
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and what exactly do you think it proves?


they dont like Dems.

Dems are with the black people
 
cawacko said:
She actually believes that proves racism as well because the white people in Mississippi want to vote against the candidate that black people support. And this comes from a person who says "facts" matter.
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yeah, I know, I saw her stupidity before. She just continually makes up shit to support her fantasy world where Reps are all racist.
 
cawacko said:
So Desh you're going to claim 90% of white folk voting Republican in Mississippi is racism but 90% of black folk in Mississippi voting Democratic isn't. Why don't you at least augment your claim with some additional data? If white people in Mississippi vote 40%-50% for Al Gore and John Kerry and then only 10% for Obama then that would definitely bolster your argument. If white people in Mississippi vote Republican at a 80%-90% clip regardless of who the opponent is how are you going to claim that racist this time?
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I think this ignores racial history don't you? Can you think of any reason why blacks, especially in Mississippi, might vote against Republicans? Any reason at all?
 
Superfreak said:
Not surprising that Darla again misses the FACT that it is Desh spewing the hatred. It is DESH labeling people as racists. Again, perhaps Darla the deranged will answer where as Desh runs away, what was the percentage of black people that voted for Romney by state?
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Why are you such a miserable prick? WHat makes you think I have to answer you or interact with you at all when you are nothing but a bullying, abusive, fuckwit??? Fuck you SF.
 
Darla said:
I think this ignores racial history don't you? Can you think of any reason why blacks, especially in Mississippi, might vote against Republicans? Any reason at all?
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There is no denying Mississippi's horrible race relations in the past and issues even today. But she is using conjecture to say all whites in Mississippi vote Republicans because blacks vote Democratic.
 
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