The Rich/Poor Disparity Myth

Value is relative. If you are a Sandy victim and have rotting trash piled up in front of your house, a neurosurgeon is of little use. However, if you have a glioma then you shouldn't be calling Waste Management. On second thought in the age of OWEbamacare maybe a trash collector is the only one who will see you
If I have trash piling up, I have the ability to remove it myself. Everyone has the skills to do that.
 
They are to their families.


A cynic is a man who knows the price of everything but the value of nothing.
Oscar Wilde
Charles Manson and Osama bin Laden were probably of value to their families, but this isn't about families. It's about value to society, and to say everyone is equal is simply false. Some people are more valuable than others.
 
"Let's have an experimental society where 10 people are stranded on a desert island..." and we''re supposed to believe that these people, who are presumably reasonably intelligent, with survival their primary concern, still decide to split their resources, go in 10 different directions and take their chances.

But the truly ridiculous part is we're supposed to buy into this premise, and that the one guy who has been successful, whose love of money is so all consuming that he's going to SELL his surplus to the other castaways and not just feed everyone stuck in the same bad situation?

Sounds like the very definition of a greedy Conservative to me.

Actually it isn't theory. We just celebrated a wonderful holiday based on just this thing. But you would rather be jealous and hateful of your fellow man.
 
I'm not in a state of denial Mott. I fully recognize the rich are getting richer while the poor remain poor, but as I have brilliantly explained, this is part of human nature and will always be the case in a free capitalist society. Now, you can poke fun at me, Kenny can post his humorous pictures, Dude and Kenny can groan me, but the one thing none of you can do, is refute what I've said.

What you are advocating, is the same thing Chairman Mao advocated in China. It resulted in the death of 60 million people.

Dixie, your cute story (complete fiction) showed there are people who are willing to live off the system. Mott did not deny that. What he pointed out, using solid facts, is that the people who built the wealth and productivity of this nation have not prospered or shared in the fruits of their labor.

That is the point of his post and he is 100% accurate.
 
Charles Manson and Osama bin Laden were probably of value to their families, but this isn't about families. It's about value to society, and to say everyone is equal is simply false. Some people are more valuable than others.

Comparing a sanitation worker to murderers is either dishonest or obtuse. Which one is it?
 
You right wingers sure are stupid. The value of a human being isn’t in what they can or can not do.the fact that they are human that gives them value.And despite our differences we are all human.
Exept conservatives , they are turds and tards right?
 
You right wingers sure are stupid. The value of a human being isn’t in what they can or can not do.the fact that they are human that gives them value.And despite our differences we are all human.

Well, at least we know why you are so poor. You are monumentally stupid. We were talking about the relative value of a given profession, not a human life. Of course being a supporter of abortion, you have ZERO credibility when it comes to discussing the value of human life.
 
Comparing a sanitation worker to murderers is either dishonest or obtuse. Which one is it?
That was addressing the strawman of 'value to families' when the topic was value to society.

Some professions are of more value to society than others. To claim a cherry-picker is of the same value as a physician is political correctness to the point of insanity.
 
Charles Manson and Osama bin Laden were probably of value to their families, but this isn't about families. It's about value to society, and to say everyone is equal is simply false. Some people are more valuable than others.

Do you think that Thomas Jefferson was as valuable to England as he was to the USA? One societies freedom fighter is another's terrorists!
 
Yes, they are, did you happen to see NYC when the sanitation workers went on stike?
That's funny. Amazing the lengths some will go to in order to 'convince' themselves their politically correct meme is true, regardless of how diametric to reality it truly is.
 
"value to society" very Nazi sounding.
In this regard, it explains that everyone isn't equal. Some people are smarter, more resourceful, better-looking, wittier, etc. That's a fact.

If you want to discuss real totalitarianism, I oppose Deathcare as treatment will be based literally on a person's perceived 'value' in terms of tax-paying years left, and lives will be lost because of it.
 
Do you think that Thomas Jefferson was as valuable to England as he was to the USA? One societies freedom fighter is another's terrorists!
Doesn't matter, any way you size it. Everyone is not 'equal'. That isn't even debatable.
 
That's funny. Amazing the lengths some will go to in order to 'convince' themselves their politically correct meme is true, regardless of how diametric to reality it truly is.

I think it is amusing your "rating" system as to a persons value to society! Where do you place yourself? Are you valuable? Or are you just a trash collector variety? Why don't you tell us what you do for a living and we can "rate" your value. I guess I am just one of those stupid liberals that believe all people are of value!
 
In this regard, it explains that everyone isn't equal. Some people are smarter, more resourceful, better-looking, wittier, etc. That's a fact.

If you want to discuss real totalitarianism, I oppose Deathcare as treatment will be based literally on a person's perceived 'value' in terms of tax-paying years left, and lives will be lost because of it.

Another shallow conservative, you have to be good looking, witty, to be of "value", truly sad.
 
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