Why the Tea Party Lives On?
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signalmankenneth
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The Tea Party …because dumb as dirt is the new smart???
Hopefully the American people, will vote these kooks and loons out of office doing the next mid-term election! The party has destroyed the GOP!
The tea party stands in the way of progress and advancements, it longs for a bygone era?!!
Hopefully the American people, will vote these kooks and loons out of office doing the next mid-term election! The party has destroyed the GOP!
The tea party stands in the way of progress and advancements, it longs for a bygone era?!!
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Hopefully the American people, will vote these kooks and loons out of office doing the next mid-term election! The party has destroyed the GOP!
The tea party stands in the way of progress and advancements, it longs for a bygone era?!!
So you want the GOP to do what exactly? Do you want the GOP to oppose democrat and Obama policies? What exactly are you clamoring for? Obama rolled Boehner and you are still complaining. Do you want one party rule?
Crashk
Unite or Die
I love to laugh in the face of Teabaggers who think their 'party' is a grassroots movement. Teabaggers don't understand they are pawns of rich multinational industrialists. Their ideas of the Tea party are quite different from the bought and sold politicians who represent the funders of the group.
"All three tycoons (Murdoch, and Koch brothers) are the latest incarnation of what the historian Kim Phillips-Fein labeled “Invisible Hands” in her prescient 2009 book of that title: those corporate players who have financed the far right ever since the du Pont brothers spawned the American Liberty League in 1934 to bring down F.D.R. You can draw a straight line from the Liberty League’s crusade against the New Deal “socialism” of Social Security, the Securities and Exchange Commission and child labor laws to the John Birch Society-Barry Goldwater assault on J.F.K. and Medicare to the Koch-Murdoch-backed juggernaut against our “socialist” president.
Only the fat cats change — not their methods and not their pet bugaboos (taxes, corporate regulation, organized labor, and government “handouts” to the poor, unemployed, ill and elderly). Even the sources of their fortunes remain fairly constant. Koch Industries began with oil in the 1930s and now also spews an array of industrial products, from Dixie cups to Lycra, not unlike DuPont’s portfolio of paint and plastics. Sometimes the biological DNA persists as well. The Koch brothers’ father, Fred, was among the select group chosen to serve on the Birch Society’s top governing body. In a recorded 1963 speech that survives in a University of Michigan archive, he can be heard warning of “a takeover” of America in which Communists would “infiltrate the highest offices of government in the U.S. until the president is a Communist, unknown to the rest of us.” That rant could be delivered as is at any Tea Party rally today."
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/opinion/29rich.html?_r=0
The backlash against Republicon obstructionism next election will diminish and divide the party even more than it is now.
"All three tycoons (Murdoch, and Koch brothers) are the latest incarnation of what the historian Kim Phillips-Fein labeled “Invisible Hands” in her prescient 2009 book of that title: those corporate players who have financed the far right ever since the du Pont brothers spawned the American Liberty League in 1934 to bring down F.D.R. You can draw a straight line from the Liberty League’s crusade against the New Deal “socialism” of Social Security, the Securities and Exchange Commission and child labor laws to the John Birch Society-Barry Goldwater assault on J.F.K. and Medicare to the Koch-Murdoch-backed juggernaut against our “socialist” president.
Only the fat cats change — not their methods and not their pet bugaboos (taxes, corporate regulation, organized labor, and government “handouts” to the poor, unemployed, ill and elderly). Even the sources of their fortunes remain fairly constant. Koch Industries began with oil in the 1930s and now also spews an array of industrial products, from Dixie cups to Lycra, not unlike DuPont’s portfolio of paint and plastics. Sometimes the biological DNA persists as well. The Koch brothers’ father, Fred, was among the select group chosen to serve on the Birch Society’s top governing body. In a recorded 1963 speech that survives in a University of Michigan archive, he can be heard warning of “a takeover” of America in which Communists would “infiltrate the highest offices of government in the U.S. until the president is a Communist, unknown to the rest of us.” That rant could be delivered as is at any Tea Party rally today."
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/opinion/29rich.html?_r=0
The backlash against Republicon obstructionism next election will diminish and divide the party even more than it is now.
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Fred Koch was a prescient guy. Funny you focus so much on who funds the GOP yet you remain stunningly silent on Soros and unions funding the democrats. My guess is it was just a silly little oversight.
apple0154
MEOW
As life becomes more complicated/evolved more government involvement is necessary. Compare an Amazon tribe to a civilized community. If there are no roads there are no need for traffic laws. If commerce is conducted strictly by trading goods no banking laws are necessary. The same principal applies to everything.
Another reason is centralized distribution. When a small family farm sold milk to half a dozen families the worst that could happen was six families may become ill from contaminated milk. Today, thousands of families buy milk from the same producer, therefore, laws (oversight) is necessary.
As society progresses more laws and government involvement is inevitable because one person's actions can effect a greater number of people. Of course, common sense was never a Republican strong point.
Another reason is centralized distribution. When a small family farm sold milk to half a dozen families the worst that could happen was six families may become ill from contaminated milk. Today, thousands of families buy milk from the same producer, therefore, laws (oversight) is necessary.
As society progresses more laws and government involvement is inevitable because one person's actions can effect a greater number of people. Of course, common sense was never a Republican strong point.
Crashk
Unite or Die
Don't know why I waste my time on you but here goes....
Political Action Committee Spending (1989 to 2010)
Koch Industries: $5,938,993 (83 percent going to Republicans)
Soros Fund Management: $0
527 Group Contributions (2001 to 2010)
Koch Industries: $574,998
$186,598 – Democratic Governors Association
$150,000 – Republican State Leadership Committee
$103,400 – Republican Governors Association
Soros Fund Management: $0
Lobbying Expenditures (1998 to 2010)
Koch Industries: $50,972,700
Soros Fund Management: $860,000
Open Society Policy Center (Soros-Funded): $11,930,000
According to federal lobbying reports, Koch Industries’ top issues include energy, environmental, tax and homeland security policies. The Open Society Policy Center has mainly lobbied on issues relating to foreign relations, civil rights, and law enforcement policy.
VERDICT: When it comes to the combination of institutional lobbying, 527 group donations and PAC expenditures, Koch Industries far out-spends Soros’ hedge fund and think tank, $57.4 million to $12.8 million. Most of this money is attributable to lobbying expenditures.
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2010/09/opensecrets-battle---koch-brothers.html
So who owns more politicians and who spends more on propaganda to try to twist small brains like yours? Who has more to gain? Bottom line - who donates more and why?
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Seriously? You are going to ignore all of the shadow organizations Soros runs? OK, lets go with that. You can play the game of "democrats are as clean as the wind driven snow and only the big bad GOP takes money"
Yep, you have convinced me, the dems have no way of getting money except for Granny who forgoes her orange juice in order to send Obama $10
The Tea Party is ill defined and rather incoherent. It seems to mean non establishment Republican. The "movement" and the critics are responsible for the bad definition that they throw around. For instance, many critics claim the Koch brothers are leaders and that the Tea Party is fundamentally opposed to all tax increases. One of the Koch brothers supported tax increases so that depiction/definition does not work.
The author of this article seems to be indentifying it as a group that opposes the wheel greasing of Congress. $78 million for auto racing tracks, is his example of what non Tea Party politicians support.
The problem with the GOP is not some ill defined Tea Party. The problem is a well defined goup that has always plagued the GOP, i.e., social conservatives. Most people want the government to resist pork and live within its means. They also support the "Tea Party's" tendency to oppose foreign adventures and government snooping. They don't want racists and mysoginists.
The author of this article seems to be indentifying it as a group that opposes the wheel greasing of Congress. $78 million for auto racing tracks, is his example of what non Tea Party politicians support.
The problem with the GOP is not some ill defined Tea Party. The problem is a well defined goup that has always plagued the GOP, i.e., social conservatives. Most people want the government to resist pork and live within its means. They also support the "Tea Party's" tendency to oppose foreign adventures and government snooping. They don't want racists and mysoginists.
Crashk
Unite or Die
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No you are right. Democrats have no money other than that they get from Granny forgoing her orange juice.
No, it isn't. Hirsh is more liberal than me. He's criticizing the Republicans, led by the teabaggers, allowed this bill - which could have legitimately cut spending and raised revenue - to be nothing but a wasteland of pork.
Like health care reform, it could have been a lot more with a little cooperation from the right.
Nope. He is clearly stating that the Tea Party lives on because the establishment can't get it's act together and do what is needed.
Sorry, but I think the drama is far from over. The rebellion against the size of government is a true populist movement, and it’s not going away. The debt limit is still the biggest card the tea party has. They’re going to use it.
I've been following Hirsh for years. I know what he meant. Google him. Otherwise, let's just agree to disagree.