I'll be damned...the most brutal of the Delhi gang rapists is Muslim.

Bravo - pretty much everyone has read your posts the same way, on both the right & left (though some on the right seem too afraid to "take you on.") It's not because you're a conservative.

Your comments & views on this topic, on women in general, and on religion in general, are generally sick & pretty offensive to the average, intelligent & reasoning individual.
 
Bravo - pretty much everyone has read your posts the same way, on both the right & left (though some on the right seem too afraid to "take you on.") It's not because you're a conservative.

Your comments & views on this topic, on women in general, and on religion in general, are generally sick & pretty offensive to the average, intelligent & reasoning individual.

Well, if you notice there are about four posters here that nobody talks to - Bravo, USF, Yurt, and ILA. They talk to each other but that's about it. So who knows how many have this nutter on IA. Maybe I am giving them too much credit...
 
someone who confuses an adult relationship with rape doesnt show much respect for the adult womans choice

Yes some innocent intern is going to wave off the advances of the most powerful man in the world.

You just blew up years of sexual harassment teachings out of the water in one sentence.

After watching what you liberal women are willing to defend, overlook an even participate in, I have a hard time taking anything either if you say seriously on the issue of rape
 
Bravo - pretty much everyone has read your posts the same way, on both the right & left (though some on the right seem too afraid to "take you on.") It's not because you're a conservative.

Your comments & views on this topic, on women in general, and on religion in general, are generally sick & pretty offensive to the average, intelligent & reasoning individual.

Well, if you notice there are about four posters here that nobody talks to - Bravo, USF, Yurt, and ILA. They talk to each other but that's about it. So who knows how many have this nutter on IA. Maybe I am giving them too much credit...


If there is a way to mis-construe, mis-state, or mis-interperate what I post, that is exactly what you all will do....because it comes from a conservative....and you do it every
conservative on the board, not only me....Christiefan's post is typical....talking about things I didn't mention or not in the context I talked about if I did actually mention them.....
Darla won't address specifics at all....she posted a year or more ago her deep, passionate hate for conservatives and it shows...

You know I'm politically conservative and that is the only thing that matters to you....nothing a con says will be taken in the way it was meant if you can spin it another way....

You all seldom address whats being discussed .... point by point....you mis-state, ridicule, and attack the poster.....or try to change to subject all together.....

The reason that people put others on IA (other than trolls) is that they can't refute in a reasonable way what is posted. Its much easier to just ridicule in a shotgun manner and
stay away from specific issues.......

If you think I need to clarify a post, just ask.

Anyway, this is all bs and has nothing to do with issues or politics......I hope you'll prove this opinion of mine wrong
 
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Well, if you notice there are about four posters here that nobody talks to - Bravo, USF, Yurt, and ILA. They talk to each other but that's about it. So who knows how many have this nutter on IA. Maybe I am giving them too much credit...

And yet; I seem to be living rent free in your head and DAMN there's a lot of room in there, seeing as how you don't use it for any cognitive reasons.
 
Well, if you notice there are about four posters here that nobody talks to - Bravo, USF, Yurt, and ILA. They talk to each other but that's about it. So who knows how many have this nutter on IA. Maybe I am giving them too much credit...

just because you're scared to discuss issues with me, doesn't mean no one else talks me...the universe doesn't revolve around you
 
LOL yeah... in countries with "honor" killings for rape victims, I wonder if rape might be a tad bit under-reported compared to america...

Precisely. Even in the "moderate" Turkey, 26% of the population supports honor killings:

http://www.todayszaman.com/newsDetail_getNewsById.action?load=detay&link=170502&bolum=100

In addition to forcing other aspects of their savagery onto society:

MuslimNuts.jpg


Why some liberals are so obsessed with defending this sickening, backward religion is beyond me. This sort of political correctness is going to rot our society, and potentially plunge the world into chaos. All religions are worthless, but whereas most have changed with the times, Islam continues to fall further back into the dark ages, and they are hell-bent on dragging everyone else with them.
 
Precisely. Even in the "moderate" Turkey, 26% of the population supports honor killings:

http://www.todayszaman.com/newsDetail_getNewsById.action?load=detay&link=170502&bolum=100

In addition to forcing other aspects of their savagery onto society:

MuslimNuts.jpg


Why some liberals are so obsessed with defending this sickening, backward religion is beyond me. This sort of political correctness is going to rot our society, and potentially plunge the world into chaos. All religions are worthless, but whereas most have changed with the times, Islam continues to fall further back into the dark ages, and they are hell-bent on dragging everyone else with them.

this is all that needs to be said. Look at those fucking numbers, do you know how many muslims are in those countries?

In fact, I just decided to break all these stats down:

First, I took the population of each country as a whole, and then I isolated just the muslim members of each country. Then I used the belief on apostasy (which is actually LOWER overall than muslim opinions on adultery, so keep that in mind. We'll just stick to "you should be killed if you leave the religion" which I feel is a pretty good barometer for FUCKING INSANE.

Just basic math here, simply multiplying the percentage stated on the poll versus the total population of the countries muslims:

Turkey

Population: 74 million (98% muslim)
72.5 million muslims

Number of Muslims with Batshit in sane views: 3.6 million

Egypt

Population: 90 million (90% identify as muslim)
81 million muslims

Insane: 68 million

Jordan

Population: 6 million (92% muslim)
5,500000 muslims

Insane: 4.7 million

Lebanon

Population: 4 million (60% muslim)
2.4 million muslims

Insane: 144,000 (good job lebanon)

Indonesia

Population: 237,400,000 (86% muslim)204 million muslims

Insane: 61 million

Pakistan

Population: 180 million (97%)
174 million muslims

Insane: 132 million

Nigeria

Population: 170 million (50% muslim)
85 million muslims

Insane: 42.5 million

***

Total Muslims Polled in these Countries: ~624,400,000 (Nearly 40% of ALL muslims in the world btw)
Total Muslims certified fucking insane: ~311,944,000 (50% of muslims polled)

Conclusion:

We only looked at 7 countries. We didn't include syria, many north african muslim countries, iraq, iran, afghanistan, Saudi arabia, UAE, yemen, and many other countries that no doubt also have fucking crazy religious believers. Even so, without even considering those other nations, we already have a hard number of at least 20% of all muslims world wide, being completely batshit. They believe you should be put to death if you leave the faith. If we were to look at other psycho countries, this number would be undoubtedly higher, and probably closer to 30-40%.

Furthermore, beliefs like stoning for adultery, are also likely to be higher. Just a cursory glance at the above poll shows that for almost every country the % approval for stoning is higher than the apostasy question.

I challenge anyone to find similar numbers regarding christians. See if you can find almost 300-400 million christians that believe you should be put to death if you leave the faith.

This is your hard proof that Islam in particular, is likely the most VIOLENT religion in the modern world. While these insane muslims are likely a minority, they are a very sizable portion of the muslim faith. They are not "extremists" or a fringe group of paltry numbers.

Goodnight America.
Grind, signing off.
 
this is all that needs to be said. Look at those fucking numbers, do you know how many muslims are in those countries?

In fact, I just decided to break all these stats down:

First, I took the population of each country as a whole, and then I isolated just the muslim members of each country. Then I used the belief on apostasy (which is actually LOWER overall than muslim opinions on adultery, so keep that in mind. We'll just stick to "you should be killed if you leave the religion" which I feel is a pretty good barometer for FUCKING INSANE.

Just basic math here, simply multiplying the percentage stated on the poll versus the total population of the countries muslims:

Turkey

Population: 74 million (98% muslim)
72.5 million muslims

Number of Muslims with Batshit in sane views: 3.6 million

Egypt

Population: 90 million (90% identify as muslim)
81 million muslims

Insane: 68 million

Jordan

Population: 6 million (92% muslim)
5,500000 muslims

Insane: 4.7 million

Lebanon

Population: 4 million (60% muslim)
2.4 million muslims

Insane: 144,000 (good job lebanon)

Indonesia

Population: 237,400,000 (86% muslim)204 million muslims

Insane: 61 million

Pakistan

Population: 180 million (97%)
174 million muslims

Insane: 132 million

Nigeria

Population: 170 million (50% muslim)
85 million muslims

Insane: 42.5 million

***

Total Muslims Polled in these Countries: ~624,400,000 (Nearly 40% of ALL muslims in the world btw)
Total Muslims certified fucking insane: ~311,944,000 (50% of muslims polled)

Conclusion:

We only looked at 7 countries. We didn't include syria, many north african muslim countries, iraq, iran, afghanistan, Saudi arabia, UAE, yemen, and many other countries that no doubt also have fucking crazy religious believers. Even so, without even considering those other nations, we already have a hard number of at least 20% of all muslims world wide, being completely batshit. They believe you should be put to death if you leave the faith. If we were to look at other psycho countries, this number would be undoubtedly higher, and probably closer to 30-40%.

Furthermore, beliefs like stoning for adultery, are also likely to be higher. Just a cursory glance at the above poll shows that for almost every country the % approval for stoning is higher than the apostasy question.

I challenge anyone to find similar numbers regarding christians. See if you can find almost 300-400 million christians that believe you should be put to death if you leave the faith.

This is your hard proof that Islam in particular, is likely the most VIOLENT religion in the modern world. While these insane muslims are likely a minority, they are a very sizable portion of the muslim faith. They are not "extremists" or a fringe group of paltry numbers.

Goodnight America.
Grind, signing off.

You're as wacky as Voltaire anymore. Everything you've referred to is a cultural practice that pre-dates Islam but is still carried on by a conservative, patriarchal society. And the poll is from a conservative Turkish newspaper, hardly unbiased and neutral. It's like righties quoting Rasmussen to illustrate American voters' views of religion.

You and volt need to get your heads out of Craig Winn's tush, you're embarrassing yourselves with this tripe.
 
this is all that needs to be said. Look at those fucking numbers, do you know how many muslims are in those countries?

In fact, I just decided to break all these stats down:

First, I took the population of each country as a whole, and then I isolated just the muslim members of each country. Then I used the belief on apostasy (which is actually LOWER overall than muslim opinions on adultery, so keep that in mind. We'll just stick to "you should be killed if you leave the religion" which I feel is a pretty good barometer for FUCKING INSANE.

Just basic math here, simply multiplying the percentage stated on the poll versus the total population of the countries muslims:

Turkey

Population: 74 million (98% muslim)
72.5 million muslims

Number of Muslims with Batshit in sane views: 3.6 million

Egypt

Population: 90 million (90% identify as muslim)
81 million muslims

Insane: 68 million

Jordan

Population: 6 million (92% muslim)
5,500000 muslims

Insane: 4.7 million

Lebanon

Population: 4 million (60% muslim)
2.4 million muslims

Insane: 144,000 (good job lebanon)

Indonesia

Population: 237,400,000 (86% muslim)204 million muslims

Insane: 61 million

Pakistan

Population: 180 million (97%)
174 million muslims

Insane: 132 million

Nigeria

Population: 170 million (50% muslim)
85 million muslims

Insane: 42.5 million

***

Total Muslims Polled in these Countries: ~624,400,000 (Nearly 40% of ALL muslims in the world btw)
Total Muslims certified fucking insane: ~311,944,000 (50% of muslims polled)

Conclusion:

We only looked at 7 countries. We didn't include syria, many north african muslim countries, iraq, iran, afghanistan, Saudi arabia, UAE, yemen, and many other countries that no doubt also have fucking crazy religious believers. Even so, without even considering those other nations, we already have a hard number of at least 20% of all muslims world wide, being completely batshit. They believe you should be put to death if you leave the faith. If we were to look at other psycho countries, this number would be undoubtedly higher, and probably closer to 30-40%.

Furthermore, beliefs like stoning for adultery, are also likely to be higher. Just a cursory glance at the above poll shows that for almost every country the % approval for stoning is higher than the apostasy question.

I challenge anyone to find similar numbers regarding christians. See if you can find almost 300-400 million christians that believe you should be put to death if you leave the faith.

This is your hard proof that Islam in particular, is likely the most VIOLENT religion in the modern world. While these insane muslims are likely a minority, they are a very sizable portion of the muslim faith. They are not "extremists" or a fringe group of paltry numbers.

Goodnight America.
Grind, signing off.



Facts, figures and logical reasoning = the new 'tripe' to the left.

Amazing.


And when I blamed their culture (just as Christiefan did) for their modern day barbarism, I was pronounced a 'crazy bastard'......
obviously when the same thing comes from a conservative, its deemed crazy on the spot.
 
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You're as wacky as Voltaire anymore. Everything you've referred to is a cultural practice that pre-dates Islam but is still carried on by a conservative, patriarchal society. And the poll is from a conservative Turkish newspaper, hardly unbiased and neutral. It's like righties quoting Rasmussen to illustrate American voters' views of religion.

You and volt need to get your heads out of Craig Winn's tush, you're embarrassing yourselves with this tripe.

you're an idiot christie. this is a poll of muslims about something specific regarding their religion. ANd honestly who cares what the exact origins are? We have conclusive, factual evidence that at least 20% of all muslims world wide believe in death for apostasy. That is a number not to scoff at.
 
this is all that needs to be said. Look at those fucking numbers, do you know how many muslims are in those countries?

In fact, I just decided to break all these stats down:

First, I took the population of each country as a whole, and then I isolated just the muslim members of each country. Then I used the belief on apostasy (which is actually LOWER overall than muslim opinions on adultery, so keep that in mind. We'll just stick to "you should be killed if you leave the religion" which I feel is a pretty good barometer for FUCKING INSANE.

Just basic math here, simply multiplying the percentage stated on the poll versus the total population of the countries muslims:

Turkey

Population: 74 million (98% muslim)
72.5 million muslims

Number of Muslims with Batshit in sane views: 3.6 million

Egypt

Population: 90 million (90% identify as muslim)
81 million muslims

Insane: 68 million

Jordan

Population: 6 million (92% muslim)
5,500000 muslims

Insane: 4.7 million

Lebanon

Population: 4 million (60% muslim)
2.4 million muslims

Insane: 144,000 (good job lebanon)

Indonesia

Population: 237,400,000 (86% muslim)204 million muslims

Insane: 61 million

Pakistan

Population: 180 million (97%)
174 million muslims

Insane: 132 million

Nigeria

Population: 170 million (50% muslim)
85 million muslims

Insane: 42.5 million

***

Total Muslims Polled in these Countries: ~624,400,000 (Nearly 40% of ALL muslims in the world btw)
Total Muslims certified fucking insane: ~311,944,000 (50% of muslims polled)

Conclusion:

We only looked at 7 countries. We didn't include syria, many north african muslim countries, iraq, iran, afghanistan, Saudi arabia, UAE, yemen, and many other countries that no doubt also have fucking crazy religious believers. Even so, without even considering those other nations, we already have a hard number of at least 20% of all muslims world wide, being completely batshit. They believe you should be put to death if you leave the faith. If we were to look at other psycho countries, this number would be undoubtedly higher, and probably closer to 30-40%.

Furthermore, beliefs like stoning for adultery, are also likely to be higher. Just a cursory glance at the above poll shows that for almost every country the % approval for stoning is higher than the apostasy question.

I challenge anyone to find similar numbers regarding christians. See if you can find almost 300-400 million christians that believe you should be put to death if you leave the faith.

This is your hard proof that Islam in particular, is likely the most VIOLENT religion in the modern world. While these insane muslims are likely a minority, they are a very sizable portion of the muslim faith. They are not "extremists" or a fringe group of paltry numbers.

Goodnight America.
Grind, signing off.

You skipped a few countries...
 
You're as wacky as Voltaire anymore. Everything you've referred to is a cultural practice that pre-dates Islam but is still carried on by a conservative, patriarchal society. And the poll is from a conservative Turkish newspaper, hardly unbiased and neutral. It's like righties quoting Rasmussen to illustrate American voters' views of religion.

You and volt need to get your heads out of Craig Winn's tush, you're embarrassing yourselves with this tripe.

Turkish newspaper? Actually, the source is Pew Research. Here is the complete study:

http://www.pewglobal.org/2010/12/02...orld-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/#prc-jump

"When asked about the death penalty for those who leave the Muslim religion, at least three-quarters of Muslims in Jordan (86%), Egypt (84%) and Pakistan (76%) say they would favor making it the law; in Nigeria, 51% of Muslims favor and 46% oppose it."

You truly are in denial.
 
you're an idiot christie. this is a poll of muslims about something specific regarding their religion. ANd honestly who cares what the exact origins are? We have conclusive, factual evidence that at least 20% of all muslims world wide believe in death for apostasy. That is a number not to scoff at.

Believing in something isn't the same as acting on the belief. Over 50% of Americans believe in the death penalty, and probably the highest percentage is conservative Christians. And before you tell me it's not the same, we are talking about what two different cultures consider as crimes.

How about showing some numbers comparing belief vs. action?
 
Believing in something isn't the same as acting on the belief. Over 50% of Americans believe in the death penalty, and probably the highest percentage is conservative Christians. And before you tell me it's not the same, we are talking about what two different cultures consider as crimes.

How about showing some numbers comparing belief vs. action?

What I find really interesting is the countries who weren't polled or listed in their lsts! I wonder why Baharin, Saudi and other Muslim countries weren't listed in their lists!!!!! I find this very telling!
 
Turkish newspaper? Actually, the source is Pew Research. Here is the complete study:

http://www.pewglobal.org/2010/12/02...orld-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/#prc-jump

"When asked about the death penalty for those who leave the Muslim religion, at least three-quarters of Muslims in Jordan (86%), Egypt (84%) and Pakistan (76%) say they would favor making it the law; in Nigeria, 51% of Muslims favor and 46% oppose it."

You truly are in denial.

"The Qur'an itself does not prescribe any earthly punishment for apostasy; Islamic scholarship differs on its punishment, ranging from execution – based on an interpretation of certain hadiths – to no punishment at all as long as they "do not work against the Muslim society or nation."

Freedom of belief is enshrined in the Koran - the foremost textual authority in laying down the principles of Islamic law. But there is disagreement among Muslim scholars as to the limits of that freedom.

"There is no compulsion in religion" (al-Baqarah, 256); is one of the most quoted phrases from the Koran to back up freedom of belief.
There is no clear-cut text in the Koran, however, that calls for the killing of apostates. But those who call for the execution of Muslims who abandon their faith base their judgement primarily on the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad, also known as the hadith.

These constitute a secondary textual authority - albeit weaker than the Koran itself - used in formulating Islamic law, or Sharia.

Abdelsabour Shahin, an Islamist writer and academic at Cairo University, told the BBC that although Islam in principle enshrined freedom of belief, there were severe restrictions on that freedom.

If someone changes from Islam to kufr (unbelief), that has to remain a personal matter, and he should not make it public. (Abdelsabour Shahin,
Islamist writer, Cairo University)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4850080.stm





 
Turkish newspaper? Actually, the source is Pew Research. Here is the complete study:

http://www.pewglobal.org/2010/12/02...orld-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/#prc-jump

"When asked about the death penalty for those who leave the Muslim religion, at least three-quarters of Muslims in Jordan (86%), Egypt (84%) and Pakistan (76%) say they would favor making it the law; in Nigeria, 51% of Muslims favor and 46% oppose it."

You truly are in denial.

Me in denial, lol. I notice you omitted these sections from the article. It's why I think you're so dishonest.

"In the other predominantly Muslim countries surveyed – Turkey, Lebanon and Indonesia – most Muslims oppose these measures."

"In contrast, Muslims in Lebanon, Turkey and Indonesia largely reject the notion that harsh punishments should be the law in their countries. About three-quarters of Turkish and Lebanese Muslims oppose the stoning of people who commit adultery (77% and 76%, respectively), as does a narrower majority (55%) of Muslims in Indonesia."

"Opposition to whippings and cutting off of hands for crimes like theft and robbery and to the death penalty for people who leave Islam is even more widespread in these three countries; 86% of Muslims in Lebanon, 82% in Turkey and 61% in Indonesia are against making harsh punishments for robbery and theft the law in their countries, and 93%, 91% and 64%, respectively, object to the death penalty against those who leave the Muslim religion."
 
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