So this is what takers do

Althea said:
Well, there's a modicum of truth to that line of thinking, but it's more about making a fortune on unnecessary tests/medications.
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There's more than a modicum of truth to it. Between malpractice insurance and lazy people trying to get a free ride for life off the backs of well-meaning physicians, I don't know why anyone would choose a career as a doc. It's a shame.
 
Stargazer said:
There's more than a modicum of truth to it. Between malpractice insurance and lazy people trying to get a free ride for life off the backs of well-meaning physicians, I don't know why anyone would choose a career as a doc. It's a shame.
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That's because like most right wingers you are poor and uneducated. The average dr makes $250,000
 
Stargazer said:
There's more than a modicum of truth to it. Between malpractice insurance and lazy people trying to get a free ride for life off the backs of well-meaning physicians, I don't know why anyone would choose a career as a doc. It's a shame.
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Well gee...maybe if seeing a Doctor didn't require those without insurance to take out a second mortgage just to pay for the TESTS the Doctor needs to run to determine the illness, then maybe we'd see fewer "lazy people" in the ER.
 
Stargazer said:
There's more than a modicum of truth to it. Between malpractice insurance and lazy people trying to get a free ride for life off the backs of well-meaning physicians, I don't know why anyone would choose a career as a doc. It's a shame.
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People USED to choose to be a Doctor because of an altruistic desire to help the sick and infirm.

NOW though...it's all about the Benjamins and having a bigger house than the Ob/Gyn living down the street and that is where the problem lies.
 
007 said:
If you can't afford in the USA, plenty go to the free clinic and wait in line. Just like in a socialised medcine country.
The care is crap, but hey you get what you pay for!

No I'm not, I visit my DR once a year for my annual check up.
Two years ago I attended with a minor issue, causing some difficulty.
I was given a barrage of tests that day.
Diagnosed with a serious condition that early detection and dreatment cured.

In the UK/other nation I would have Been fobbed off repeatedly.

Post diagnosis I was given a list of specialists to research and to pick my preferred one to carry out treatment.
I chose one and called him that day.
An hour later I was in his office discussing the treatment options.
Treatment began the next day.

In a socialised system, I would not be allowed to choose my specialist, and would wait weeks for the first appointment.
Then months to get on the waiting list, then months again to get the treatment!

I know which I prefer!!
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In a socialised system, I would not be allowed to choose my specialist,

Wrong guess. Not only am I allowed to choose my specialist but I'm able to choose my hospital. There is the Jewish Hospital, the Catholic Hospital and the General/University Hospital. I have cards for each one depending on what I'm going for as each one tends to specialize in certain things. My doctor asks my preference when he refers me to a hospital. Assuming they all perform the service I require I let my doctor know I prefer the Jewish because you can't beat the pastries in their coffee shop. I'm not Jewish but I do appreciate a good pastry. :)

"Socialized medicine" is not what you and the Right Wing/Repubs make it out to be and that's the problem. Just wait until ObamaCare is fully implemented. The people will never want to return to the "pay or suffer" system.
 
I Love America said:
Was that from a car accident? If so your medical bills are paid through that
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I should mention that the car insurance is also government. :) I remember, many years ago, when it wasn't. I assure you the premiums are a lot lower under the government.

As for who pays it doesn't matter. I would receive the same care regardless.
 
Althea said:
All for constipation.

That's why healthcare is so expensive in our 'for profit' system
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What is a change in bowel activity a strong indicator of?

Why are cancer survival rates in the USA higher than in inferior nations?

I know, you can't think it through, your fanatical ideology won't allow you!
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Well gee...maybe if seeing a Doctor didn't require those without insurance to take out a second mortgage just to pay for the TESTS the Doctor needs to run to determine the illness, then maybe we'd see fewer "lazy people" in the ER.
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Those fucking tards should have got insured then!!
Like grown ups do !!
Their choice, their problem.
 
007 said:
It's not my responsibility to pay for other people's fuck ups.
They want an abortion, their business, a kid, their responsibility.
As a taxpayer I has no say in the choice to get pregnant, I have no responsibility to the damn brat resulting from their choice.
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I appreciate your honesty. I wish others would be as honest rather than make up excuses not to help.
 
I Love America said:
I am sure that in your worldview this makes perfect sense. But if you operate from a place of freedom and limited government then your point is moot.
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The Preamble to the Constitution mentions more than freedom and nothing about limited government. "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." Furthermore, "courts have referred to it as reliable evidence of the Founding Fathers' intentions regarding the Constitution's meaning and what they hoped the Constitution would achieve."

Lastly, it is a little more than disturbing that you would justify murdered to save tax dollars. How.....what is the word I am looking for?...........yeah......compassionate
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Murder? Of some one or some thing that hasn't been born? What a strange concept.
 
007 said:
What is a change in bowel activity a strong indicator of?
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Depends. Too much chocolate/cheese may constipate you, while too much fiber might give you the shits.

What percentage of people who have a change in bowel activity, actually need the tests you listed earlier?

Why are cancer survival rates in the USA higher than in inferior nations?

I know, you can't think it through, your fanatical ideology won't allow you!
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I'd have to review your data.

Oh, right...you didn't supply any. Could it be that there are more cancer patients in this country?
 
Althea said:
Depends. Too much chocolate/cheese may constipate you, while too much fiber might give you the shits.

What percentage of people who have a change in bowel activity, actually need the tests you listed earlier?

I'd have to review your data.

Oh, right...you didn't supply any. Could it be that there are more cancer patients in this country?
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The US survival rate for breast cancer is the highest, for colon cancer, Japan. It really depends on the type of cancer.
 
apple0154 said:
The Preamble to the Constitution mentions more than freedom and nothing about limited government. "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." Furthermore, "courts have referred to it as reliable evidence of the Founding Fathers' intentions regarding the Constitution's meaning and what they hoped the Constitution would achieve."



Murder? Of some one or some thing that hasn't been born? What a strange concept.
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Define born.
Babies, according to Barbera boxer are not considered to be a life for several days after they are born.
 
If you can't murder something that is not born, why does the crime" murder of an unborn child " exist in pant penal codes?
 
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