Why unlocking your phone without permission will be illegal (and why you should care)

Aoxomoxoa said:
You really surprise me, when you get a phone via a carrier it is locked to that network. If you want to take it abroad or use another network you can't unless it is unlocked. This law means that even when the phone is out of contract you have to pay them a fee to have it unlocked.
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Then get one from a carrier that isn't buying your phone!
You rapist
 
WinterBorn said:
What guy is sitting in jail for making a YouTube video?

And why is the fact that a certain lady being touted as a leading Presidential candiate a sign of how far we have sunk as a country?
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You seriously can't be this misinformed. OK, in the interest of my newfound niceness, I will attempt to explain it piece by piece.

1) From day one of Benghazi, Obama and his minions blamed some poor schmuck who created some lame unentertaining YouTube video that only 200 people saw
2) In the middle of the night, Obama sent the brown shirts knocking on his door for some perceived probation violation, he sits in jail today
3) The woman who arguably is responsible for the death of four American citizens in Benghazi is being touted as a Presidential candidate. Only in a country that has sunk as low as ours could a woman who is such a monumental failure as Hillary Clinton be touted as a leading contender for President
 
I Love America said:
You seriously can't be this misinformed. OK, in the interest of my newfound niceness, I will attempt to explain it piece by piece.

1) From day one of Benghazi, Obama and his minions blamed some poor schmuck who created some lame unentertaining YouTube video that only 200 people saw
2) In the middle of the night, Obama sent the brown shirts knocking on his door for some perceived probation violation, he sits in jail today
3) The woman who arguably is responsible for the death of four American citizens in Benghazi is being touted as a Presidential candidate. Only in a country that has sunk as low as ours could a woman who is such a monumental failure as Hillary Clinton be touted as a leading contender for President
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First of all, the fact that Hillary is being touted as the leading presidential candidate has no meaning whatsoever. It is simply people talking.

Second, your claim that Obama sent brown shirts to arrest the guy on "some percieved probation violation" is laughable. The man you are defending has been in and out of trouble for 21 years.

Perhaps this will help with your continuing education. (I do appreciate the civility though)

"It’s only the latest in a 21 year-long series of run-ins with the law. In August of 1991, Nakoula, who own a gas station, was convicted on two counts of selling watered-down fuel. Six years later, he was arrested on charges related to the manufacture of PCP. Then came the 2009 arrest for using 14 different identities to pass off bogus checks. Among them: Kritbag Difrat and P.J. Tobacco. Afterwards, Nakoula turned informant against the supposed ringleader of the check kiting ring, and in received a relatively light penalty for participation in the scheme: a $794,700 fine, 21 months in federal custody, and an order to keep his hands off of the keyboard and mouse."

From: http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/man-behind-innocence-of-musl.html

So you dislike Hillary enough to defend a drug dealer & thief after he lied to his probation officer and violated the terms of his probation? If someone does what he does and DOESN'T go to jail it is a sign of our country sinking. That you attempt to portray him as just "a guy who made a YouTube video only 200 people saw" is both dishonest and hilarious.
 
This thread has potential. I bet anything it's already been reported to the mods, and further, that it's my fault. LMAO

I don't envy Grind today.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
You really surprise me, when you get a phone via a carrier it is locked to that network. If you want to take it abroad or use another network you can't unless it is unlocked. This law means that even when the phone is out of contract you have to pay them a fee to have it unlocked.
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I just know that if you switch carriers, the service people usually perform all of the transfer issues for you (like insurance brokers and agents do). Do the fees still happen in that case?
 
Threedee said:
I just know that if you switch carriers, the service people usually perform all of the transfer issues for you (like insurance brokers and agents do). Do the fees still happen in that case?
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Maybe it is different over there but if you change carriers over here then it's up to you to unlock your phone. What usually happens though is that you get a new phone that is locked to the new network. Don't they do sim only deals in the US?
 
Threedee said:
No, you can typically swap your sim card over. They are trying to get your business, afterall.
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What do you mean swap your sim card over? You cannot just swap your sim for a new one without getting the phone unlocked first. The locking is done in the phone not the sim card! Carriers do this to stop you migrating easily to another network and to protect their investment. Over here you can break a contract if you pay the rest of the contract off or you can move at the end of the contract and they have to unlock your phone for free.
 
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Aoxomoxoa said:
By the way, this is good thing!!
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This all seems unecessarily complicated. I have a phone. I use it to talk to friends. It costs me about $4 per month plus some add ons like for the underground, and every year or two the company phones me and says what a nice chap I am and that they are going to a) reduce the fee or b) increase the minutes. I think I am on unlimited minutes now but how should I know and why should I bother? Its a phone. It says 'I will be late for lunch' and 'are you going to the pub?'
I also have a Samsung tab thingy that I can use as a phone if I can be bothered to change the sim card over and hold its excessive weight to my shell like. I could, of course, use something called a 'blue tooth', stick it in my ear for the day on the off chance someone will call with information essential to the continuance of my life.
The best thing you can do with a mobile phone is turn the bastard off and go to the beach!
 
Lowaicue said:
This all seems unecessarily complicated. I have a phone. I use it to talk to friends. It costs me about $4 per month plus some add ons like for the underground, and every year or two the company phones me and says what a nice chap I am and that they are going to a) reduce the fee or b) increase the minutes. I think I am on unlimited minutes now but how should I know and why should I bother? Its a phone. It says 'I will be late for lunch' and 'are you going to the pub?'
I also have a Samsung tab thingy that I can use as a phone if I can be bothered to change the sim card over and hold its excessive weight to my shell like. I could, of course, use something called a 'blue tooth', stick it in my ear for the day on the off chance someone will call with information essential to the continuance of my life.
The best thing you can do with a mobile phone is turn the bastard off and go to the beach!
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I usually get a new phone every 18 months or so as an upgrade. I get the old one unlocked and either send it to Thailand to be used over there or sell it on Ebay. I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 which currently sells for about £150 on Ebay unlocked, which I will do when the Galaxy S4 comes out in a few days time.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
I usually get a new phone every 18 months or so as an upgrade. I get the old one unlocked and either send it to Thailand to be used over there or sell it on Ebay. I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 which currently sells for about £150 on Ebay unlocked, which I will do when the Galaxy S4 comes out in a few days time.
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When I am king I will ban the use of mobile phones completely. Haven't you noticed how many appointments are postponed or delayed because we have these wretched things.
Why cant people simply agree to meet at 7.30 under the clock on Friday and bloody well BE there? There is not longer a requirement to show respect to ones friends and colleagues by being somewhere on time. My own daughter will still be 'doing her nails' or something with just a few minutes to go before meeting someone for dinner half an hour away. 'It's Ok', she will say, 'I'll call him from the taxi!'
Ban 'em. Let's get back to being on time every time.
Not only that but have you ever counted the friggin buttons you have to press to just live? We have four remotes! each with shed loads of buttons. We have entry codes and library cards and several computers and things. We have a air con remote in each room filled with buttons most of which are useless and a remote in each room to control the heaters for the few days a year that they are used. Most of these buttons 'bleep' which makes them even worse. The bus doors bleep, car drivers can no longer reverse without bleeping, the phones all bleep , the fridge bleeps when you have had the door open too long.You get a bleep when someone sends you an email or a WhatsApp, a bleep when you plug a USB into your computer, a bleep when the roast is done in the oven...oh that has buttons too!
It is all so much more convenient, they tell us, than simply saying to your mate, 'I'll see you on Saturday at the pub.'
Yeah, that is really difficult!
 
Lowaicue said:
When I am king I will ban the use of mobile phones completely. Haven't you noticed how many appointments are postponed or delayed because we have these wretched things.
Why cant people simply agree to meet at 7.30 under the clock on Friday and bloody well BE there? There is not longer a requirement to show respect to ones friends and colleagues by being somewhere on time. My own daughter will still be 'doing her nails' or something with just a few minutes to go before meeting someone for dinner half an hour away. 'It's Ok', she will say, 'I'll call him from the taxi!'
Ban 'em. Let's get back to being on time every time.
Not only that but have you ever counted the friggin buttons you have to press to just live? We have four remotes! each with shed loads of buttons. We have entry codes and library cards and several computers and things. We have a air con remote in each room filled with buttons most of which are useless and a remote in each room to control the heaters for the few days a year that they are used. Most of these buttons 'bleep' which makes them even worse. The bus doors bleep, car drivers can no longer reverse without bleeping, the phones all bleep , the fridge bleeps when you have had the door open too long.You get a bleep when someone sends you an email or a WhatsApp, a bleep when you plug a USB into your computer, a bleep when the roast is done in the oven...oh that has buttons too!
It is all so much more convenient, they tell us, than simply saying to your mate, 'I'll see you on Saturday at the pub.'
Yeah, that is really difficult!
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Low, you should do a cameo for Grumpy Old Men!

 
Aoxomoxoa said:
Low, you should do a cameo for Grumpy Old Men!

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Nice to see one of the altar boys from our wedding when the world was still black and white and sensible, and in one of the others Michael Winner who I met at La Colombe d'Or last April. He certainly wasn't grumpy then nor was his delightful wife, Geraldine.
Grumpy is good. So much better than these sickening people who enthuse over cow shit because it is not packaged in plastic with a content label stuck to the outside.
The horrendous lady (she happened to be American which i mention so you can imagine the sound she made) talking to her four year old child who was busy restacking the supermarket shelves on the floor. She cooed, 'Good choice, good choice, Mommy will put everything back. Will you help mommy? No? Well, that's just fine.'
When the 'grumpy' brigade would likely lock the little bastard in the bedroom to wait until they had been to the supermarket in lonely bliss and, on returning, conveniently forget about it.
 
Lowaicue said:
Nice to see one of the altar boys from our wedding when the world was still black and white and sensible, and in one of the others Michael Winner who I met at La Colombe d'Or last April. He certainly wasn't grumpy then nor was his delightful wife, Geraldine.
Grumpy is good. So much better than these sickening people who enthuse over cow shit because it is not packaged in plastic with a content label stuck to the outside.
The horrendous lady (she happened to be American which i mention so you can imagine the sound she made) talking to her four year old child who was busy restacking the supermarket shelves on the floor. She cooed, 'Good choice, good choice, Mommy will put everything back. Will you help mommy? No? Well, that's just fine.'
When the 'grumpy' brigade would likely lock the little bastard in the bedroom to wait until they had been to the supermarket in lonely bliss and, on returning, conveniently forget about it.
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I always thought you wre a bit of a champagne socialist, although Michael Winner wasn't exactly noted for his left wing views!!
 
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