Should we increase visas for tech workers?

Rune said:
Such as?
Same shit, different pile. Thing is, the GOP tends to work for business. Business gains from an oversupply of labor, labor does not.
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mccain and bush were very much into pro immigration reform for starters...what have dems done?

i think both parties work for business, if they didn't, they would have very little money to fund their campaigns...see pork. dems may talk, but they certainly do not walk the walk.

and i agree, both are shit, different pile. i wish we had a viable independent TP.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
You mean hire American workers for minimum wage. The reason these companies can't hold onto American workers is not that Americans won't do the work. They won't do it for crap wages when they have better employment options elsewhere. Housekeepers in the Hotel industry is a perfect example. It's tough ball busting work that pays barely more than minimum wage. My wife is an executive housekeeper at a 200 room hotel. $10/hour is the magic number for them. When they pay $10/hour they attract and keep American workers. When they pay less than that they lose the American workers and become depended on immigrant laborers. Typically speaking they start at $8/hr.....$0.50/hour more than minimum wage and no medical or retirement benefits. So their housekeepers are overwhelminlgy latinas.
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This work paid $11 an hour plus good benefits. That sounds decent for unskilled labor to me.

Our subcontractors paid $500 a week plus paid the hotel and 2 meals a day. Quite a few of the hispanics were making $750 a week, which translates to $18+ an hour. Not cheap labor. But the guys would get out there and earn it.
 
WinterBorn said:
This work paid $11 an hour plus good benefits. That sounds decent for unskilled labor to me.

Our subcontractors paid $500 a week plus paid the hotel and 2 meals a day. Quite a few of the hispanics were making $750 a week, which translates to $18+ an hour. Not cheap labor. But the guys would get out there and earn it.
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Essentially what I am hearing is that Americans are fucking lazy am feel entitled.

Now thanks to the gobblement so many students have thousands of dollars of students and for which they can't use in the private sector so feel they can't afford to take those entry level jobs.

Thank you gubmint and liberalism. You are finally reaping what you sowed all these years
 
I Love America said:
Essentially what I am hearing is that Americans are fucking lazy am feel entitled.

Now thanks to the gobblement so many students have thousands of dollars of students and for which they can't use in the private sector so feel they can't afford to take those entry level jobs.

Thank you gubmint and liberalism. You are finally reaping what you sowed all these years
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The work ethic in the younger workers is certainly not what it used to be.
 
WinterBorn said:
The work ethic in the younger workers is certainly not what it used to be.
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“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”


― Socrates
 
QUOTE=cawacko;1161324]I've always been a big believer in wanting the best and brightest in the world to come to the U.S. so I support incresing H-1B visas. It seems the argument against increasing these visas is that it drives down wages and hurts the middle class. I'm curious what people think.




http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05electio...ase-visas-for-tech-workers-as-high-as-300000/[/QUOTE]
I'm all for it. This policy would free up our own homegrown students to persue those vital liberal arts degrees! You can write your own ticket to the managerial ranks at mcdonalds with a degree in gender studies!:legion:
 
callinectes said:
QUOTE=cawacko;1161324]I've always been a big believer in wanting the best and brightest in the world to come to the U.S. so I support incresing H-1B visas. It seems the argument against increasing these visas is that it drives down wages and hurts the middle class. I'm curious what people think.






http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05electio...ase-visas-for-tech-workers-as-high-as-300000/
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I'm all for it. This policy would free up our own homegrown students to persue those vital liberal arts degrees! You can write your own ticket to the managerial ranks at mcdonalds with a degree in gender studies!:legion:[/QUOTE]


I don't think Grind is going to appreciate you posting a video of him dancing.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Apples to oranges and a cost benefist analysis is, if you haven't heard, a monetary analysis. The point being there are some things which are difficult to put a price on. A persons or the publics health for one example.
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A true cost benefit analysis doesn't just involve dollars and cents. You are spinning and you know it. And yes, you can put a price on someones health. For example, if I am paying your healthcare bills, I can put a price on it and it wouldn't be that much because to be honest, your health doesn't mean jack shit to me. I would expect you to feel the same way about me.

Of course you think your health has no price tag that is why you didn't really complain that much when they didn't tell you how much it cost. You heard "blip" and I am sure you thought you were having some sort of arrhythmia or god forbid a heart attack, so your desire to know what was wrong with your ticker outweighed your desire to know how much it cost.

That is a true cost/benefit analysis.
 
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