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Or receive an education, so yes, you're going to get schooling.
How the religious right is undermining education
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This has nothing to do with me, asswipe....I have no use for vouchers.....I just don't want others to pay twice their fair share....or even you when you grow up.
Drunk already? Who has to pay twice their fair share.
Lowaicue
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Children should go to school. Kids should be allowed to stay in the fields with the nanny and billy until they can be either milked or slaughtered for food.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
To be fair, going by population your map isn't representative. The North East region, Great Lakes region, Pacific Coast Region and Florida repesent less than a 1/3 of US geography and close to 2/3rd of the population.I wonder if you really thought this through. Liberals support the free public school system that was started in the 1800s, and if we don't like the schools, we have the choice to pay and send our kids to private schools. Our taxes go toward a free, secular education that's available to all. If you want your kids to have a specific religious, cultural or ethnic education, why do you expect others to pay for it? Your freedom to do so is still intact.
And as far as "indoctrinating kids with liberal propaganda, etc." I'm not sure what this means. But take a look at the map below. The greatest area of the country is composed of red states. That means these people vote for and support conservative teachings. So what's your basis for the liberal indoctrination comment? If that were true the greatest part of the country would be reliably liberal, instead of the opposite.
Summary of results of the 2000, 2004, 2008, and 2012 presidential elections:
(Red) States carried by the Republican all four elections.
(Pink) States carried by the Republicans in three of the four elections
(Purple) States carried by each party twice in the four elections
(Lt. blue) States carried by the Democrat in three of the four elections
(Dk. blue) States carried by the Democrat in all four elections
We do things a little differently in the States than the sick fools in Hong Kong.
See how easy it is to agree with others when the truth of the issue in indisputable ?.....Maybe we can set a good example for rest of 'em, huh .
Whoosh, right over your head...
http://www.salon.com/2013/02/25/how_the_religious_right_is_undermining_education/#comments
This article originally appeared on AlterNet.
One can trace the development of today’s right wing Christian think takes to the Cultural Revolution of the 1960s. Religiously conservative people, motivated by their perceived degradation of society, quietly perfected their skills, all the while grooming their own young adherents, played an effective long-game that continues to win (and corrupt) the hearts and minds of a significant segment of our youth. Indeed, there is no better way to affect the future than by propagandizing the young. In this current post election season, the Biblically driven, often racist, members of society are once again regrouping to fight another day.
With the money of wealth funders like Richard and Betsy DeVos (sister of Blackwater scion Eric Prince and daughter of Elsa and Edgar Prince of the Amway fortune) and the Walton, Koch and Scaife Foundations, simpatico politicians are hard at work bringing Dominionist [3] ideals quietly into the forefront of American education policy. While much of the country argues about budgets, deficits, and guns, a cleverly camouflaged package of School Choice and ”Bible-driven curricula“ make their way up the ladder.
On the surface, School Choice is purportedly about increasing opportunities for inner city and rural youth. The all-important subtext, however, is that School Choice is really about freeing up dollars for Christian-based education. An important arrow that energizes today’s religious quiver is the intentional misuse of language in changing the debate by referring to public schools as “government schools” and public education as a “government school monopoly,” thus instantly and directly speaking to Tea Partiers and Libertarians.
To still relatively scant notice, the call for “School Choice” or Vouchers continues to play out in state capitols across the nation in an effort to increase Biblically based education through a redirection of tax dollars from public to private religious schools. In order to accomplish the end goal of Christianizing all students, stealth remains largely the rule of the day. In 2002, Dick DeVos told The Heritage Foundation [4],
“We need to be cautious about talking too much about these activities. Many of the activities and the political work that needs to go on will go on at the grass roots. It will go on quietly and it will go on in the form that often politics is done – one person at a time, speaking to another person in privacy. And so these issues will not be, maybe, as visible or as noteworthy, but they will set a framework within states for the possibility of action on education reform issues.”
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You do not see the degradation in society? the lack of moral absolutes? the decline in morals overall? I went to public school as do my children, they cannot be a light, to light. But the issues dealt with are real, some teachers feel the need to force their morals, or lack thereof, on other people's children instead of just teaching. So why not give people the choice, lefties are all about choice right.
People claim this all the time, but what it is, is ridiculous. It seems to me that morals have gotten better over the years. We are less violent, we no longer own slaves.
Sex before marriage has always occurred, even strict religious laws have not stopped it in the past, there has always been pornography and the Bible belt views the most. There has always been theft and political corruption. Divorce has become more prevalent, but the religious divorce as much or more than the non-religious. Just exactly how have morals declined? It just seems to me people are acting the same as we always have.
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Airstrip One
Completely Effed
I don't think religious extremists have been left with much to wreck. Sure, Evangelicals may attempt to ruin biology education, but society has already destroyed every other facet of public education through horrible parenting, lousy community examples and leadership, a postmodern belief and value system, and a whole host of compounded social ailments. This places undisciplined and troubled children into campuses nationwide, and the system breaks down further from there. We have successfully engineered a three-class system - those with access to superior private education, those with access to lesser private education, and those with access to neither/public education. We haven't gotten to three yet, as we still have the fourth class of largely suburbanites, who still have access to decent public education, but that class is shrinking.
cawacko
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One of the things I was reading about earlier (a complaint from the black community) is that many schools have two routes students can go. One is the fast track/advanced route and the other is the basic/general population route. The complaint was most black kids were getting steered by teachers and administrators to basic/general population route while the white and Asian kids were going the fast track/advanced way. It was described as segregation in an integrated school.
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The Almighty
Shouldn't the tax payers get to decide which school gets the money?
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The Almighty
Anyone who cannot afford private school is obviously forced to go to public school (unless they get some type of scholarship). Which is the whole point. Why not let the parents decide which school gets their portion of the tax dollars?
You mean the way I don't get to decide that 40% of my tax dollars pay interest on the debt, and 60% of the remainder is spent on defence?
No, they can be home schooled.
Lowaicue
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Does your education authority supply materials and guidance for home schooling parents? Does the child (parent) have to pay for examinations? What are the obligations?
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
If your master(s) allow it, use google to educate yourself.