Bloomberg's soda ban

"It's not enough to talk and it's not enough to hope," Bloomberg said. "We have a responsibility as human beings to do something to save each other. While other people will wring their hands over the problem of sugary drinks, in New York City we're doing something about it."

http://newyork.newsday.com/news/hea...learly-in-error-bloomberg-says-1.4791689?qr=1


I try to eat as healthy as I can. I rarely drink soda unless it's a Jack & Coke. I fully support people eating healthier and think a lot more people need to. But I read this quote from Bloomberg and think how it can be translated into some many different things and areas and it just screams government overreach to me.
 
if it's about saving other people through random bans, I say we ban people named Michael Bloomberg from holding public office.
 
Obesity is a problem, but this seems insanely arbitrary - as though we found the culprit, and it's extra-large sugary drinks.

I doubt this impacts obesity one iota. This isn't the government's job. You can take it to all kinds of extremes - no more than one scoop of ice cream, no bacon on your cheeseburgers, etc.
 
Obesity has become rampant in the past 30 years because we're not allowed to laugh at fatties anymore. As in 'you fat fuck take the fork away from your face'.
 
Thing1 said:
Obesity is a problem, but this seems insanely arbitrary - as though we found the culprit, and it's extra-large sugary drinks.

I doubt this impacts obesity one iota. This isn't the government's job. You can take it to all kinds of extremes - no more than one scoop of ice cream, no bacon on your cheeseburgers, etc.
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I always thought if they're gonna tackle this they oughta do it right. Daily calorie limits. When you go to the DMV or SecState or where ever you get your ID, you get two meal cards. One for restaurants, and one for groceries. The restaurant one get's charged when you get readily made food and can only be used for either 1700 calories of food (for the overweight) or 2000 calories of food (for healthy people). The grocery one let's you buy a weeks worth of food, but only get refilled weekly, and is based on the size of your family. I mean, you could control so much that way, and it must be in everyones best interest.
 
Thing1 said:
Obesity is a problem, but this seems insanely arbitrary - as though we found the culprit, and it's extra-large sugary drinks.

I doubt this impacts obesity one iota. This isn't the government's job. You can take it to all kinds of extremes - no more than one scoop of ice cream, no bacon on your cheeseburgers, etc.
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One really stupid part of it is that it does nothing to stop consumption. Instead of a 32 ounce soda, people just drink 2 16 ounce glasses.

That said, soda is awful for the body. Both diet and leaded versions. Like Wacko, I only drink soda when alcohol is in the glass with it... because alcohol is good for you... no really, I swear
 
Superfreak said:
One really stupid part of it is that it does nothing to stop consumption. Instead of a 32 ounce soda, people just drink 2 16 ounce glasses.

That said, soda is awful for the body. Both diet and leaded versions. Like Wacko, I only drink soda when alcohol is in the glass with it... because alcohol is good for you... no really, I swear
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I think the idea is that people won't necessarily buy two 16 ouncers. The jump in price from a 16 to 32 ounce cup is typically much smaller than the jump from nothing to a 16 ouncer. So people have more incentive to buy one bigger soda (It's a deal!) than to buy two 16 ounce sodas (It's not a deal at all).

So, yeah, it doesn't actually prohibit people from buying 32 ounces of soda (which, by the way, is fucking gross), but it does do things to encourage lower consumption of sodas.
 
Dungheap said:
I think the idea is that people won't necessarily buy two 16 ouncers. The jump in price from a 16 to 32 ounce cup is typically much smaller than the jump from nothing to a 16 ouncer. So people have more incentive to buy one bigger soda (It's a deal!) than to buy two 16 ounce sodas (It's not a deal at all).

So, yeah, it doesn't actually prohibit people from buying 32 ounces of soda (which, by the way, is fucking gross), but it does do things to encourage lower consumption of sodas.
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Good point for those buying at a convenience store or something. I was more referring to restaurants where refills are typically free... and yes... 12 ounces is gross... 32 ounces is beyond disgusting.

Yes, I am being judgemental... because I am tired of paying higher health premiums due to increases in obesity.
 
I think it just kind of bugs me when Bloomberg talks about it like "NYC is taking this issue on". It's a token gesture. Soft drinks are a component of obesity, but there are about a thousand others (and yes, it's a pretty slippery slope when you start breaking it down).

There are better ways to combat obesity.
 
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