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The Almighty
So if you proclaim it is horseshit, you believe it regardless of the fact that you have been proven wrong time and time again?
Registration WILL lead to CONFISCATION. Don't trust the takers.
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So if you proclaim it is horseshit, you believe it regardless of the fact that you have been proven wrong time and time again?
zappasguitar
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I have yet to see where anyone's proven me wrong regarding the title...but feel free to try.
Then you didn't loot at the one I cited. It was a case involving gun registration and the 5th Amendment where it was ruled that forcing people who are "criminals" to register their weapons was a violation of the 5th Amendment. Note that registration and 5th Amendment link there...
Whether you are called an idiot or not is up to you really. Saying you looked up the case and couldn't see where it involved registration is pretty foolish.
I skimmed the case pretty closely and saw where it discussed prohibition of gun ownership by those guilty of misdormenors and domestic battery. Again, Ill ask, post the portion that makes the claim about registration by criminals being illegal.
Nope, if you participate on this board, and are a liberal.... Your boy Supercandy will call you an idiot.
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Darla
Well, this is starting to get ugly. There is only so much I can stand to watch SF get skewered. He's been shred to pieces on this thread. I have some work to do. See you guys later.
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The Almighty
The OP was about GUN registration. Period. Not registration in general of anything and everything. The OP video talks specifically about GUN registration and where it led to in Canada. It was posted as a warning of what will transpire here if we start down that path.
You have been proven wrong time and again.
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The Almighty
Isn't that cute. Jarod picked up and stole someone else's mantra yet again. Do you ever have an original thought Jarod or do you just steal from others?
I called you an idiot because you stole an already failed analogy from someone on this thread and then tried to use it again. Why did you steal his analogy Jarod?
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Yes, there we go, Darla running to the defense of the liberals, proclaiming nonsense but letting us know in advance she is about to run away.
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Where is the causation here?
Does everything that happens in Canada end up happening here?
How about France? Japan? Madagascar?
Where certain "fundamental rights" are involved, the Court has held that regulation limiting these rights may be justified only by a "compelling state interest," Kramer v. Union Free School District, 395 U.S. 621, 627 (1969); Shapiro v. Thompson, 394 U.S. 618, 634 (1969), Sherbert v. Verner, 374 U.S. 398, 406 (1963), and that legislative enactments must be narrowly drawn to express only the legitimate state interests at stake. Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U.S. at 485; Aptheker v. Secretary of State, 378 U.S. 500, 508 (1964); Cantwell v. Connecticut, 310 U.S. 296, 307-308 (1940); see [p156] Eisenstadt v. Baird, 405 U.S. at 460, 463-464 (WHITE, J., concurring in result).
Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 at p. 155 (imphassis added)
Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 at p. 155 (imphassis added)
No, you misspelled it. Since you looked up the wrong one I'll "read" it to you. US v Haynes (note the 'n'... you looked up US v Hayes, different ruling.)
http://www.firearmsandliberty.com/cramer.haynes.html
The court ruled: We hold that a proper claim of the constitutional privilege against self-incrimination provides a full defense to prosecutions either for failure to register a firearm under sec.5841 or for possession of an unregistered firearm under sec.5851.
Please note the link to registration and the 5th Amendment included in that ruling.
Not really, he doesn't call every liberal an idiot. He does call you one, but not every liberal.
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SF has called every single liberal here a moron or idiot. There isn't really much distinction between the 2.
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The Almighty
Why go through this again with you? You are a fear monger and you will proclaim the innocence of the gun grabbers with your last breath. You live in a fantasy world where these events haven't happened elsewhere as well. How many examples need be listed before you grasp the concept that your knee jerk fear mongering over 'assault rifles/mag capacity' is not going to do anything to help solve the problem you are trying to solve. Nothing.
There is no valid reason for registration. None. The only thing it can accomplish is letting the government know who has them and how many. But you don't care about that. You just want to ban them to make yourself feel better/safer... which is pure nonsense.
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The Almighty
Agreed... not much distinction between a liberal and an idiot.
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Everything about this post is the opposite. YOU are the fearmonger, for taking what happens in another country and hyperbolizing it, to imply that it is virtually guaranteed to happen here, even though we have different laws & standards. That is fearmongerng to the extreme.
As for there be "no valid reason - none" for registration, bull. As I told you, STY had a post just the other day about registration identifying a gun owner who had been admitted to a mental hospital. Say what you want, but the vast majority in this country do not want the mentally ill or people with violent proclivities owning a gun.
All you do is lie & hyperbolize, because you have an agenda. Your word cannot be trusted. You simply fabricate, and try to pass it off as fact.
Again - registration CAN lead to confiscation. That doesn't mean it WILL. No way around that.
Sorry.
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The Almighty
Again for the mentally challenged liberals... wrong again... you are the one who wants to ban guns... based on WHAT? Emotion. That is it. What emotion are you basing it off of? FEAR.
The fact that guns have been registered and confiscated in other countries (and some states) is all the evidence we have to look at as we have not done it here. Based on the evidence of other endeavors like this is what we are basing our comments. You have nothing to substantiate your position. Nothing... except FEAR.
Ill check your case out... I have not kept a tally, but I suspect he calles the ones he is threatened by idiots.
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That's pretty obtuse, on a variety of levels. First, there is evidence that areas with greater gun control have less violence. Beyond that, law enforcement everywhere favors things like a ban on assault weapons. Why is that? Because it's effective in reducing violence & crime. It's not FEAR.
Now, if you want to keep screaming "they's comin' to take your guns!", and then try to claim you're not fearmongering in the same sentence, have at it.
Last, repeating the above fallacy many times will not make it true. When something happens in another country, it is not a FACT that it will happen hear. I can give you about a million examples on that one if you'd like. Nothing supports the argument behind "will." Nothing.
You are just lying, or stupid. Or both.
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Darla
Superfreak has at some time or other, called every liberal posting here an idiot or a moron, sorry Damo.
Testify my fellow liberals!
Testify my fellow liberals!