If Obama were White?!!

blackascoal said:
NDAA and the Patriot Act .. no concern about the massive poutrage that greeted Bush.

i opposed the usa patriot act when it was enacted and when it was renewed as did members of the public and members of this board - the congress critters that supported it bear some of the blame for

The attack on Libya without provocation or congressional oversight. In fact, with Obama in office, the corporatists can attack any nation without much opposition. No concern about the protests that greeted George Bush. In fact, Obama can attack Africa .. no outrage .. even from African-Americans. Let the white guy try it.

no provocation except the massive killing of libyans by gadafi and it was over in one day (well within the prescribed three day limit), our participation after that first day was limited to providing aerial refills of british and french aircraft also, if i remember correctly, there was support for taking gadafi out

Obama passed 98% of the Bush tax cuts .. made them permanent. No outrage

a bit of a distortion this one, the 2% that had taxes raised were the top 2% of income earners, i.e., those making $400,000 or more which the vast majority of the nation supported

No closing of Gitmo. No outrage.

once more there was outrage here and among the voters, but the repugs refused to fund the closing of gitmo and the transfer of the prisoners to the continental u s of a and continue to this day even though a special prison was constructed (i think in indiana) and now lies unused...plenty of outrage

Obama attacks medical marijuana after promising not to. No outrage.

there was outrage here and in states that legalized marijuana for medical and other reasons...there was outrage here and in the states allowing the use of mj, however, to large a portion of the population (mainly congress critters, especially conservative congress critters) still does not want it legalized, including some democratic congress critters - 9ncluding ca senator feinstein

Attacks civil liberties. No outrage. - please provide examples other than the usa patriot act

Kills Americans without trial. No outrage. - how many americans? one so far and with outrage in some quarters, but it was fine with mr

Obama is droning planet earth and murdering lots of innocent people .. including women and children and babies. No outrage.

i thought babies were children, however, how many more than ground and air forces other than drones kill, also, v the number that the enemy kills with impunity - this is guerrilla warfare with no fronts and an enemy that hides among civilians

Obama is going to cut Social Security and Medicare .. and the democrats won't say shit

he has put some cuts on the table, but the repugs have yet to bargain for them - when my wife and i started paying into ss and later medicare the retirement age was 65, now it is 67 and given the life expectancy of the population the retirement age is likely to go up and the ss/medicare payroll tax go up...no outrage, i doubt it

I could go on .. but you get the point.
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would you rather mccain or rommny have been elected instead of obama?

personally, my wife and i would have preferred hikary and hope that she runs in 2016

but we have what we have just like when we got bushco

do you think that obama is as bad as bushco?

ps if you want to blame someone for the screw up of ss/medicare, blame lbj that stole the ss trust fund money to pay for the viet nam war and later presidents and congresses that kept kicking the can of ss/medicare down the road until there was no more road

oh well
 
Independent said:
If a first term unknown white Senator had run for president he would have lost out in the primaries and never become president.
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Yep, the 'race' and 'inexperienced' issues are being used against the John Hopkins doctor. One good speech does not a president make. Funny thing that it's the Democrats pointing that out.
 
blackascoal said:
NDAA and the Patriot Act .. no concern about the massive poutrage that greeted Bush.
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Americans have accepted that our gluttonous foreign policy has made us a target. You take the bad with the good. When we stop wasting billions on obsolete weaponry, we can focus on how we really need to defend ourselves in the future, we'll be better off.

The attack on Libya without provocation or congressional oversight. In fact, with Obama in office, the corporatists can attack any nation without much opposition. No concern about the protests that greeted George Bush. In fact, Obama can attack Africa .. no outrage .. even from African-Americans. Let the white guy try it.
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Obama never attacked Libya
Obama passed 98% of the Bush tax cuts .. made them permanent. No outrage
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You think raising taxes on low income earners would've been better? I'd have preferred a minimum 25% cap gains as opposed to 20%, but in this Congress you take what you can.

No closing of Gitmo. No outrage
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.You're going to have quite a bit of work to do if you think you can put this on Obama.

Obama attacks medical marijuana after promising not to. No outrage.
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You know this isn't true. Stoners misconstrued his comments re. 'cancer patients', and decided it was open season on 'legal' marijuana. I can send you some 'medical marijuana if you want. It gets shipped from Cal. every 4 months.



Attacks civil liberties. No outrage.
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I don't remember any time in our history when someone wasn't crying about civil liberties.



Kills Americans without trial. No outrage.
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As he should. Al Awlaki deserved what he got. You'd be singing a different tune had the underwear bomber not been so incompetent, or if that van in NYC actually blew up. Good fuckin riddance.



Obama is droning planet earth and murdering lots of innocent people .. including women and children and babies. No outrage.
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War is hell. I'll grant you that.



Obama is going to cut Social Security and Medicare .. and the democrats won't say shit
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In exchange for what? And you'll have to be more specific if you reference cuts.



I could go on .. but you get the point.
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yes...I do.
 
On the kill list:

What happens when CIA tricks some stupid kid into participating in terrorism? Are you cool with the young fellow then being targeted for death?
 
It is so funny watching these same liberals who screamed about Bush WAR CRIMES, now say "War is hell". Waterboarding bad. Indiscriminate drone attacks? Good.

Bush created more terrorists with his actions. Obama using the same actions as Bush is now the Terrorist Killa.

Cognitive dissonance is a wonderful thing and these libtards are masters
 
tinfoil said:
On the kill list:

What happens when CIA tricks some stupid kid into participating in terrorism? Are you cool with the young fellow then being targeted for death?
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That's typically what the FBI does. They don't get killed, however. They get prosecuted.
 
Althea said:
Americans have accepted that our gluttonous foreign policy has made us a target. You take the bad with the good. When we stop wasting billions on obsolete weaponry, we can focus on how we really need to defend ourselves in the future, we'll be better off.

Obama never attacked Libya
You think raising taxes on low income earners would've been better? I'd have preferred a minimum 25% cap gains as opposed to 20%, but in this Congress you take what you can.

.You're going to have quite a bit of work to do if you think you can put this on Obama.

You know this isn't true. Stoners misconstrued his comments re. 'cancer patients', and decided it was open season on 'legal' marijuana. I can send you some 'medical marijuana if you want. It gets shipped from Cal. every 4 months.



I don't remember any time in our history when someone wasn't crying about civil liberties.



As he should. Al Awlaki deserved what he got. You'd be singing a different tune had the underwear bomber not been so incompetent, or if that van in NYC actually blew up. Good fuckin riddance.



War is hell. I'll grant you that.



In exchange for what? And you'll have to be more specific if you reference cuts.


yes...I do.
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Thanks for the excuses.
 
Threedee said:
Since when was it un-Christian to point out the truth?
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It is neither christian nor unchristian to point out the truth but it most certainly is unchristian to spit anger and ire about someone who is not here to defend himself, particularly by one so disingenuous as that person..
''Let him who is without sin....''
 
Althea said:
Americans have accepted that our gluttonous foreign policy has made us a target. You take the bad with the good. When we stop wasting billions on obsolete weaponry, we can focus on how we really need to defend ourselves in the future, we'll be better off.

Obama never attacked Libya
You think raising taxes on low income earners would've been better? I'd have preferred a minimum 25% cap gains as opposed to 20%, but in this Congress you take what you can.

.You're going to have quite a bit of work to do if you think you can put this on Obama.

You know this isn't true. Stoners misconstrued his comments re. 'cancer patients', and decided it was open season on 'legal' marijuana. I can send you some 'medical marijuana if you want. It gets shipped from Cal. every 4 months.



I don't remember any time in our history when someone wasn't crying about civil liberties.



As he should. Al Awlaki deserved what he got. You'd be singing a different tune had the underwear bomber not been so incompetent, or if that van in NYC actually blew up. Good fuckin riddance.



War is hell. I'll grant you that.



In exchange for what? And you'll have to be more specific if you reference cuts.


yes...I do.
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I find it absolutely incredible listening to democrats like you making the same arguments they argued against when Bush was in office.
 
I Love America said:
It is so funny watching these same liberals who screamed about Bush WAR CRIMES, now say "War is hell". Waterboarding bad. Indiscriminate drone attacks? Good.

Bush created more terrorists with his actions. Obama using the same actions as Bush is now the Terrorist Killa.

Cognitive dissonance is a wonderful thing and these libtards are masters
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Agreed. It just does not get much more hypocritical than that.
 
Don Quixote said:
would you rather mccain or rommny have been elected instead of obama?
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I don't do 'lesser evil' .. but with McCain and Romney there would be opposition to evil where there is no opposition to the same evil when it has Obama's name on it.

personally, my wife and i would have preferred hikary and hope that she runs in 2016
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Of course she'll run in 2016 .. and if she wins .. she'll continue the same foreign policy as Obama .. which is the exact same foreign policy of George Bush.

but we have what we have just like when we got bushco
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We got the same foreign policy as Bush .. on steroids.

do you think that obama is as bad as bushco?
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His foreign policy is worse. The world thought the Iraq War was Bush's fault. Now they see it is American foreign policy that is controlled by the MIC regardless of the letter behind the name of the President .. or the color of his skin.

ps if you want to blame someone for the screw up of ss/medicare, blame lbj that stole the ss trust fund money to pay for the viet nam war and later presidents and congresses that kept kicking the can of ss/medicare down the road until there was no more road

oh well
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Oh well indeed.
 
Althea said:
Your post assumes that you have integrity. When you cannot address the obvious, and choose adolescent graphics instead, you've clearly illustrated the parameters of your 'integrity'.

I understand that this place tends to resemble a playpen from time to time. Come around to the adult section when you get your diaper changed.
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Adolescent graphics... you mean like the OP?
 
Superfreak said:
He would have had no shot against Hillary if he had been a first term WHITE Senator. None.
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Make that NONE

He would have had no shot if Wall Street and Banking had not showered him with more money than ANY presidential candidate in American history.

Why would they invest so much money in a relative unknown?

What is sliding past all of you is that Obama was created by the plutocracy.

Republicans claim that he's a socialist. There is nothing that has ever said more ignorant and out of touch with reality than that stupid shit .. except perhaps democrats claiming that he's on their side.

Obama is a corporatist ... looking to get paid just like Bill Clinton.

Americans are easy to manipulate and control.
 
Paul Ryan Not Asking For Social Security Cuts, Why Is Obama Insisting On Them?

One of the interesting aspects of the ongoing budget negotiations is that while Paul Ryan's proposal is an attack on the social safety net with a huge tax giveaway for the rich, the one thing it is not is a call to cut Social Security:

Here is Paul Ryan’s path to a balanced budget in three sentences: He cuts deep into spending on health care for the poor and some combination of education, infrastructure, research, public-safety, and low-income programs. The Affordable Care Act’s Medicare cuts remain, but the military is spared, as is Social Security. [Emphasis supplied.]

Meanwhile, President Obama is standing firm on insisting on Social Security cuts:

Obama had discussed entitlement reform with a dozen Senate Republicans over a private dinner last week. “I urged him not to cut Social Security and benefits for disabled veterans,” said Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.), an independent who caucuses with Democrats. [...] “At this point I think he is more inclined to cut benefits, which I strongly disagree with,” Sanders said.[Emphasis supplied.]

At this point it is impossible to deny that the idea of cutting Social Security is on Obama's wish list, not the GOP's.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2013/3/13/8476/24609

Guess who democrats will blame when Obama cuts SS?
 
blackascoal said:
Make that NONE

He would have had no shot if Wall Street and Banking had not showered him with more money than ANY presidential candidate in American history.

Why would they invest so much money in a relative unknown?

What is sliding past all of you is that Obama was created by the plutocracy.

Republicans claim that he's a socialist. There is nothing that has ever said more ignorant and out of touch with reality than that stupid shit .. except perhaps democrats claiming that he's on their side.

Obama is a corporatist ... looking to get paid just like Bill Clinton.

Americans are easy to manipulate and control.
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Agreed Obama's real goal is to have cushy speaking engagements where he can net hundred's of thousands of dollars per event after he completes his time as President. It is to top the extravagant fees for those speeches that Clinton is now receiving. This will make him the real money and power that he is looking for. All he has to do is do the dance for 1 more term and his lifestyle will be assured forever through corporate America.
 
Well let's not forget, if he had been a woman first term Senator of any race, she would have been laughed out of town if she had even talked about running.

I don't disagree he won the Democratic primary because he was black, but...I do like to keep in mind that this was probably the only time in America's history where being black paid off while running for higher office. I mean, it's not as if black guys have gotten all the breaks and when are we going to get a white male president you know? So it's not something i sit around steaming over.
 
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