Jim Carrey... jealous much?

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By distorting what I said, by using words I did not use, by insinuating I have said things I did not say.

I said she was more qualified to give a political opinion, not that her opinion was more valid. Jim Carrey is more qualified to act in comedy movies. Ted Nugent is more qualified to make rock music. Koby Bryant is more qualified to play basketball.

Well, I am sorry, but we've ALWAYS lived in a world where people with university degrees and experience are more qualified than others, and their opinions are valued. Laura Ingraham is paid to give her opinion by people who are paid by advertisers, because her opinion is valued. I did not say her opinions are more valid, or that other people's opinions are invalid.

It has nothing to do with being afraid of anything. It has nothing to do with opinions I agree with or disagree with. I made a statement with regard to my respect for other people. Those who exploit their position in life to do something the rest of us can't do, because we lack their status, is offensive to me. No one is paying Jim Carrey to be a political speaker or for his political opinions, he is exploiting his fame and connection with the media, to pontificate his personal views. He has that right, I haven't said he shouldn't have that right, but I don't have to respect him for it. To me, it is much more respectable to deliver whatever political message you have through your art. Make a movie and tell me about your political view, I can appreciate that, but grabbing the mic because you happen to be famous, and lecturing me on your political views, is just not cool with me. I don't care if it's Ted Nugent, who I agree with, or Jim Carrey, who I don't. Laura Ingraham is okay because she is being paid by advertisers to do what she does, and that is her job. When advertisers pay Jim Carrey to do a nationally syndicated political talk show, I will feel differently, but that is not currently the case.

Saying that someone's opinion is more 'valued' but that this doesn't mean it's more 'valid' is a bit of hairsplitting, imo. And I don't agree with you that advertisers paying someone money does anything at all to make an opinion more 'valued,' anyway. That's giving a lot of power to advertisers.

And it's also giving a lot of power to the punditry. I think it's sad to see their opinions as being more 'valued', or on some other level somehow, because they're all so much more "qualified" than the rest of us to have opinions and voice them.

 

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The devil is breaking out his down filled parka... this one paragraph, written my my longtime nemesis, is something I actually kind of agree with.

damn... thought you were dead. Welcome back.

 

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Dixie this is the one thing I full agree with you on.

You might be surprised at how much we agree on. I've said this plenty of times here, my real-life persona is quite different from Dixie. Here, I enjoy challenging people who think they have it all figured out. That happens to mostly be Liberals, but sometimes it's people on the right as well. It's not that I necessarily have a different view, I just don't mind taking a different perspective and playing devil's advocate. I'm not a Christian, but I will stand up for Christianity when it's being persecuted and bashed by anti-Christians. I use the moniker Dixie to challenge conventional wisdom. People often assume I am a racist or bigot, because of the stigma of the stereotype, and I believe when they do this without knowing me, they illustrate their own closed-minded bigotry of others.

In my life on JPP, I have met two kinds of people, those who jump to conclusions because my name here is Dixie, and believe I must be a sheet-wearing ignorant redneck who hates black people... and those who don't judge me based on stereotypes. You've always been in the later category, and you're a good example of someone on the left who I can get along with, even though our political opinions may differ. You're very much like my lefty music friends I hang out with on the weekends, we have a great time together and make lots of memories, but we just don't talk a lot of politics. We don't judge or condemn each other, and we respect the fact that we have different political viewpoints.

 

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damn... thought you were dead. Welcome back.

thanks, SF... good to be back.

 

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thanks, SF... good to be back.

you're not one of those Walking Dead zombie MF'ers are you?

 

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Where'd you get my scans?

 

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Saying that someone's opinion is more 'valued' but that this doesn't mean it's more 'valid' is a bit of hairsplitting, imo. And I don't agree with you that advertisers paying someone money does anything at all to make an opinion more 'valued,' anyway. That's giving a lot of power to advertisers.

And it's also giving a lot of power to the punditry. I think it's sad to see their opinions as being more 'valued', or on some other level somehow, because they're all so much more "qualified" than the rest of us to have opinions and voice them.

Value is what it is. Sorry. Advertisers are perfectly free to pay for Jim Carrey's political opinions, but they don't find value. Now, making a funny movie that lots of people will go to a theater to see? Jim Carrey has far more value than Laura Ingraham, although, Ingraham is perfectly free to make a funny movie too, if she can find people who will pay for the production and think there would be a value.

Giving power to the punditry? What are you afraid of in this marketplace of ideas? What happened to that principle you posted 20 minutes ago? Laura Ingraham is qualified to give political opinions and insights because she has been involved in politics her entire life, it's what she does, it's who she is. Jim Carrey is a performer, an actor, a director and writer... not a political pundit.

Why don't you go stuff a fucking apple in Bob Beckel's mouth, and we'll talk?

 

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Where'd you get my scans?

You have two brains? The Buddhist and the Fundamental?

 

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Value is what it is. Sorry. Advertisers are perfectly free to pay for Jim Carrey's political opinions, but they don't find value. Now, making a funny movie that lots of people will go to a theater to see? Jim Carrey has far more value than Laura Ingraham, although, Ingraham is perfectly free to make a funny movie too, if she can find people who will pay for the production and think there would be a value.

Giving power to the punditry? What are you afraid of in this marketplace of ideas? What happened to that principle you posted 20 minutes ago? Laura Ingraham is qualified to give political opinions and insights because she has been involved in politics her entire life, it's what she does, it's who she is. Jim Carrey is a performer, an actor, a director and writer... not a political pundit.

Why don't you go stuff a fucking apple in Bob Beckel's mouth, and we'll talk?

I never said anything at all about encouraging the punditry to limit what they say, or keeping their opinions out of the marketplace of ideas. You seem confused.

I just don't think we should elevate their opinions as being somehow better or "more valued" than the opinions of anyone else. The country only benefits from more opinions getting aired. I don't see the benefit in saying well, only these people should really talk, because they're more "qualified".

 

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I never said anything at all about encouraging the punditry to limit what they say, or keeping their opinions out of the marketplace of ideas. You seem confused.

I just don't think we should elevate their opinions as being somehow better or "more valued" than the opinions of anyone else. The country only benefits from more opinions getting aired. I don't see the benefit in saying well, only these people should really talk, because they're more "qualified".

No one has said that, except for you. Again, value is what it is, I don't establish or assign value, the free market does that. Some people have more valued opinions than others, it doesn't mean their opinion is more valid or more important, just that it is more valued. Someone has placed a value on it. Not just me, I am only one person, I can value something that no one else finds value in, and it can have value to me, but not to the rest of the world. But in the world of free market capitalism, Laura Ingraham has a valued political opinion that people are willing to pay her for, and it's not your place to attempt to limit her ability to deliver her valued opinion in any way.

I don't think we should elevate performers of art to status of political experts, because that's not what they are. I don't see the benefit to saying, these people have every right to express their idiotic political opinions, because I made them famous by watching their movies. CAN they? Sure, they can do it, they DO do it! All the fucking time, night and day, 24/7, and it's not going to stop. Do I have to respect them for exploiting their fame? NOPE! Not gunna!

 

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I never said anything at all about encouraging the punditry to limit what they say...

it's also giving a lot of power to the punditry. I think it's sad to see their opinions as being more 'valued',

Nothing at all, huh?

 

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Nothing at all, huh?

You're a lot of things on this site, but one thing you are not is this kind of dopey.

Suggesting that we don't overvalue what pundits say is NOT saying we should limit what they say in any way. To suggest that it should be interpreted that way is, well, dopey.

 

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No one has said that, except for you. Again, value is what it is, I don't establish or assign value, the free market does that. Some people have more valued opinions than others, it doesn't mean their opinion is more valid or more important, just that it is more valued. Someone has placed a value on it. Not just me, I am only one person, I can value something that no one else finds value in, and it can have value to me, but not to the rest of the world. But in the world of free market capitalism, Laura Ingraham has a valued political opinion that people are willing to pay her for, and it's not your place to attempt to limit her ability to deliver her valued opinion in any way.

I don't think we should elevate performers of art to status of political experts, because that's not what they are. I don't see the benefit to saying, these people have every right to express their idiotic political opinions, because I made them famous by watching their movies. CAN they? Sure, they can do it, they DO do it! All the fucking time, night and day, 24/7, and it's not going to stop. Do I have to respect them for exploiting their fame? NOPE! Not gunna!

I never attempted to limit Laura Ingraham's ability to deliver her opinion. Your reading comprehension sucks.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on the rest. I don't want a society where only pundits & politicians express their opinions. I want everyone to express their opinions, as often as possible. I'm smart enough & I have faith in the intelligence of the rest of humanity to believe that they will hear those opinions, and still have opinions of their own.

Maybe you're just too used to being a follower to understand the value in that.

 

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Seriously Superfreak I groaned one post of yours this morning, and you have been on a groaning vendetta against me ever since. don't you have anything better to do? Slow day in the markets?

 

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and our politicians are paid to run this country and they have shown themselves to be idiots. Many of the people paid to talk about politics are idiots... Rush, Hannity, Olberman, Colmes... all morons. Yet their stupidity runs rampant about the airwaves on a daily basis. Add their partisanship in to help polarize the masses... which is precisely what both parties want.

Not sure why anyone would be groaning the above post... unless of course they were completely delusional.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

I never attempted to limit Laura Ingraham's ability to deliver her opinion. Your reading comprehension sucks.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on the rest. I don't want a society where only pundits & politicians express their opinions. I want everyone to express their opinions, as often as possible. I'm smart enough & I have faith in the intelligence of the rest of humanity to believe that they will hear those opinions, and still have opinions of their own.

Maybe you're just too used to being a follower to understand the value in that.

Well we can't have the society you want. We are 350 million people, so it would be physically impossible for you or anyone else, to evaluate all these opinions on every issue at all times. I doubt one person would even be able to hear all opinions on a single issue in their lifetime. So we have to have some way of establishing which opinions we focus on and listen to, and this is done through several outlets. One of the most popular ways, has been through free market capitalism, where advertisers and sponsors pay for air time, so that certain political ideas and viewpoints are broadcast. It's also done through books, movies, music, and other artistic expression, and I am fine with all of it. My only stated problem, was with actors and artists who take the cheap and easy way out, exploit their fame and access to the media, and preach their nonsense to me, instead of entertaining me.

On the flip side, I have a tremendous respect for artists who aren't media whore activists, and instead, create a work of art to reflect their anger and emotion and convey their political message, even when I don't happen to agree with their political message. Because THIS is what they are supposed to do as artists, THIS is how they are supposed to speak to us, through their art. I am offended when they bypass the creative process and try to 'mainline' their message, because they are exploiting their celebrity status. They are quite different from paid political pundits who earn a living by presenting opinions on politics.

 

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Seriously Superfreak I groaned one post of yours this morning, and you have been on a groaning vendetta against me ever since. don't you have anything better to do? Slow day in the markets?

lol... irony... how many of mine have you groaned today? Nothing better to do?

 

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lol... irony... how many of mine have you groaned today? Nothing better to do?

Uh, one! Talk about a over reaction and scorched earth policy. Fruitloop.

 

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Nearly 10 pages worth of posts spend on a song by Jim Carey. Brilliant.

 

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Uh, one! Talk about a over reaction and scorched earth policy. Fruitloop.

LMAO... do you honestly think no one else knows you can remove the groan? You are quite the nut.