More Taxes On Guns and Ammo: Finally!

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Howey

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Why not? Gun buyers don't seem to pay the outrageous prices charged by dealers and ammo sellers based upon fear, so why not create a tax on sales to educate the public on *gun safety*, pay for buyback programs, provide help to victims of gun violence, etc?

$25 per gun sounds good to me. How about $10 a box of ammo?

Some states and counties are studying whether to tax gun and ammunition purchases. Supporters hope to discourage gun violence or pay for damage it causes.

CHICAGO — Cook County, Ill., this month began collecting a $25 tax on gun purchases, and at least six states are considering new taxes on firearms or ammunition as a way to help pay for the consequences of gun violence.

The Cook County tax applies to purchases in Chicago's suburbs, but not the city. The tax is expected to raise $600,000 a year, which will help pay for indigent gunshot victims' medical care at county-run Stroger Hospital.

Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle, a Democrat, says 30% of the hospital's trauma patients have gunshot wounds and it costs about $52,000 for initial treatment for each. The tax won't necessarily serve as a deterrent to gun buyers, she says, but "it's an acknowledgment that we as a society pay a terrible price for the proliferation of guns."

A group of gun sellers and owners sued to block the gun tax, saying it violates the Second Amendment right to bear arms. Circuit Court Judge David Atkins denied a temporary restraining order, saying the lawsuit didn't show "that this right is threatened by the tax."

Gun and ammunition purchases are subject to local sales taxes, and manufacturers pay a federal excise tax — 10% for pistols and revolvers, 11% for other guns, shells and cartridges — that funds wildlife programs.
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There are already extra taxes on guns and ammo that are typically used to support conservation programs.

The idea of using taxation as punishment is simply wrong. Besides, you are punishing millions for what a very small percentage of them do.
 
WinterBorn said:
There are already extra taxes on guns and ammo that are typically used to support conservation programs.

The idea of using taxation as punishment is simply wrong. Besides, you are punishing millions for what a very small percentage of them do.
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Howey supports taxes on people he doesn't like. He'd be up in arms over a poll tax though because he's a hypocrite.
 
I think we should implement a tax on bath houses to discourage the spread of diseases. How would you like that, Howey?
 
most people love the so called 'sin' taxes. it's great for them to utilize and oppress things they don't like. It was done with guns in 1933 and it's been a favorite ever since. I say let them do it. It will only provide incentive for people to start making their own.
 
Howey said:
Fine with me. I've never set foot in one.

Did you have a good time?




Lol...this threads a veritable homophobe convention!
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I doubt anyone with a brain would call me a homophobe. But do you want to use taxation as punishment? Is that really your idea of proper gov't behavior? I understand you wish to see general disarmament, but that is not what I am asking.

Do you think taxes should be used to punish people who have not committed any crime?
 
WinterBorn said:
I doubt anyone with a brain would call me a homophobe. But do you want to use taxation as punishment? Is that really your idea of proper gov't behavior? I understand you wish to see general disarmament, but that is not what I am asking.

Do you think taxes should be used to punish people who have not committed any crime?
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You didn't make any of the homophobic comments in this thread, did you?

Quit being sensitive to the word, WB,
 
I think we should have a tax for those who don't own a firearm of some kind. Every day, these people require police services to ensure their safety and protection, and they should have to pay for it. Since punkettes like Howey would refuse to pay the tax, we'd have to make it like payroll tax, where it just automatically gets taken out of your pay (or deducted from your welfare), and then when you file taxes, you get your gun tax back by claiming your weapon. Someone needs to draw this up and have it ready, next time one of these idiots mentions taxing gun owners.
 
Howey said:
You didn't make any of the homophobic comments in this thread, did you?

Quit being sensitive to the word, WB,
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Dear asshole,

I support your right to live however you want and marry whomever you want. My "bath house" comment was intended to illustrate that one can easily rationalize taxes on anything, based solely on their personal views/preferences. Where does it end?

Nice try to derail the conversation in order to prevent people from pointing out your idiocy and lunacy.
 
Thithicus said:
Dear asshole,

I support your right to live however you want and marry whomever you want. My "bath house" comment was intended to illustrate that one can easily rationalize taxes on anything, based solely on their personal views/preferences. Where does it end?

Nice try to derail the conversation in order to prevent people from pointing out your idiocy and lunacy.
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In that case you'd find bathhouses are probably regulated as much or more than guns.

Why should non-gun owners foot the bill for background checks, mental health testing and increased safety training?
 
Howey said:
In that case you'd find bathhouses are probably regulated as much or more than guns.

Why should non-gun owners foot the bill for background checks, mental health testing and increased safety training?
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The background checks that are already being done?

The safety training that the NRA has been doing (and offering to do) for 140 years?

And are you suggesting that we not only not allow the mentally ill to own guns, that we test people who want guns to see if they are mentally ill?? Really?
 
Howey said:
You didn't make any of the homophobic comments in this thread, did you?

Quit being sensitive to the word, WB,
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LOL! I was not being sensitive to the word. I was trying to pull you back on topic and get you to discuss the issues raised by your post. But you seem to prefer focusing on other things rather than having a discussion.
 
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