8th grader suspended and arrested for wearing an NRA t-shirt??

Socrtease said:
The Shirt was NOT a violation of the schools dress code. They already admitted that. One of the TEACHERS didn't like it because it opposed his left wing authoritarian mind set. What I find most interesting is that liberals used to stand up for the rights of people who expressed unpopular view points. Now, any time a right wing person gets his rights violated liberals tell him to suck it up. If this was a kid who was wearing a shirt expounding on free speech, or a shirt that supported the ERA and got kicked out AND arrested you fucking lefties would blow a gasket. I guess at the same time, it's a little ironic that righties are now outraged about someone's free speech rights being violated after the decades of history where they have opposed jackets that said fuck the draft, and opposed kids wearing black armbands in opposition of war.
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It's about respect. What I don't like is a snippy kid mouthing off to an adult because his dumb parent filled his head that he was so special, he could do what he wanted. You think the kid wasn't brainwashed by his parent to spout off like that?

I already said my own kid wore an NRA shirt to school. If the teacher told him to turn it inside out, I'd have expected him to do so because he was a child in an environment where he's required to do as he's told. If he came home and complained, I'd tell him it's his responsibility to listen to the adults in charge no matter how much he hated it.

You gun nuts crack me up, the way you freaked out over this. The dad's going to "pursue a legal remedy"; just what we need, another asshole clogging up the legal system with a frivolous lawsuit. Righties complain constantly about the so-called liberal indoctrination in the schools and how kids get away with murder, yet here you all are, screaming bloody murder over a t-shirt. Christ on a crutch, you guys are freaking unbelievable.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Show me where I said that his shirt violated the schools dress code. Show me where I said that in exact words. Learn to read before you go spazing out. The kids behavior was inappropriate and he got dinged for it. Deal with it. Ya'll are making a mountain out of a molehill.
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He was asked to remove the shirt in DIRECT violation of school policy. The school only forbids that features profanity, violence, and discriminatory messages. The student was within his right to refuse to turn the shirt inside out.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
It was on yahoo earlier today. Go look it up. This is much ado about nothing. If the kid had been wearing a "Free Willy" t-shirt and been told to remove it and spazzed out we wouldn't even be talking about this.
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I've been searching and haven't been able to locate an article that say's what you've suggested.
 
christiefan915 said:
It's about respect. What I don't like is a snippy kid mouthing off to an adult because his dumb parent filled his head that he was so special, he could do what he wanted. You think the kid wasn't brainwashed by his parent to spout off like that?

I already said my own kid wore an NRA shirt to school. If the teacher told him to turn it inside out, I'd have expected him to do so because he was a child in an environment where he's required to do as he's told. If he came home and complained, I'd tell him it's his responsibility to listen to the adults in charge no matter how much he hated it.

You gun nuts crack me up, the way you freaked out over this. The dad's going to "pursue a legal remedy"; just what we need, another asshole clogging up the legal system with a frivolous lawsuit. Righties complain constantly about the so-called liberal indoctrination in the schools and how kids get away with murder, yet here you all are, screaming bloody murder over a t-shirt. Christ on a crutch, you guys are freaking unbelievable.
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So saying no to someone who's wrong, is snippy?
 
Socrtease said:
He was asked to remove the shirt in DIRECT violation of school policy. The school only forbids that features profanity, violence, and discriminatory messages. The student was within his right to refuse to turn the shirt inside out.
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You didn't answer my question. Besides, he may have been within his rights to refuse but he wasn't within his rights to create a public disturbance about it in a public school.

As I said, if this was about a "Free Willy" shirt, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Ya'll are blowing this out of proportion. No one is trying to take your gun away. We just wan't to make sure that insane lunatics, like STY, don't get one. ;)
 
Mott the Hoople said:
You didn't answer my question. Besides, he may have been within his rights to refuse but he wasn't within his rights to create a public disturbance about it in a public school.

As I said, if this was about a "Free Willy" shirt, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Ya'll are blowing this out of proportion. No one is trying to take your gun away. We just wan't to make sure that insane lunatics, like STY, don't get one. ;)
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Except this is about 1A rights, which are being taken away.
 
christiefan915 said:
It's about respect. What I don't like is a snippy kid mouthing off to an adult because his dumb parent filled his head that he was so special, he could do what he wanted. You think the kid wasn't brainwashed by his parent to spout off like that?

I already said my own kid wore an NRA shirt to school. If the teacher told him to turn it inside out, I'd have expected him to do so because he was a child in an environment where he's required to do as he's told. If he came home and complained, I'd tell him it's his responsibility to listen to the adults in charge no matter how much he hated it.

You gun nuts crack me up, the way you freaked out over this. The dad's going to "pursue a legal remedy"; just what we need, another asshole clogging up the legal system with a frivolous lawsuit. Righties complain constantly about the so-called liberal indoctrination in the schools and how kids get away with murder, yet here you all are, screaming bloody murder over a t-shirt. Christ on a crutch, you guys are freaking unbelievable.
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Actually the asshole dad as some pretty good backing. The ACLU, that bastion of right wing thought, is taking up this cause.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
You didn't answer my question. Besides, he may have been within his rights to refuse but he wasn't within his rights to create a public disturbance about it in a public school.

As I said, if this was about a "Free Willy" shirt, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Ya'll are blowing this out of proportion. No one is trying to take your gun away. We just wan't to make sure that insane lunatics, like STY, don't get one. ;)
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Still can't find anything that says he was making a disturbance.
Can you provide a link?
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Still can't find anything that says he was making a disturbance.
Can you provide a link?
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The only thing I read was that when the kid refused to turn the shirt inside out, the teacher began screaming at him, and the students present began chanting the student's name. Also, I find it interesting that Mott has refused to discuss the fact that 100 students wore the shirt the next day in support of the suspended student and NOTHING happened to any of them.
 
Socrtease said:
Actually the asshole dad as some pretty good backing. The ACLU, that bastion of right wing thought, is taking up this cause.
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And if any of you goofballs actually read my comments, you'd realize I never once criticized the shirt itself, just the kid's behaviour and the kid's and parent's sense of entitlement.
 
christiefan915 said:
And if any of you goofballs actually read my comments, you'd realize I never once criticized the shirt itself, just the kid's behaviour and the kid's and parent's sense of entitlement.
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Exactly, because you are an obedient fascist. Do not question authority, it is right and you are always wrong. I'm starting to see why you support the same structure in Islam (which is for another thread).
 
Socrtease said:
The only thing I read was that when the kid refused to turn the shirt inside out, the teacher began screaming at him, and the students present began chanting the student's name. Also, I find it interesting that Mott has refused to discuss the fact that 100 students wore the shirt the next day in support of the suspended student and NOTHING happened to any of them.
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If the kid really did cause a disturbance, then he should be held responsible for acting that way; but if all he did is refuse to follow a teacher's unsupported demand, then it's the teacher that should be consequenced.
 
christiefan915 said:
And if any of you goofballs actually read my comments, you'd realize I never once criticized the shirt itself, just the kid's behaviour and the kid's and parent's sense of entitlement.
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Yeah god damn them idjit rednecks thinking that they are entitled to the same free speech as everyone else.I don't remember which of you ill informed people said kids have no first amendment rights in school, but I would suggest you read Tinker v. Des Moines and it's progeny so you can learn yerself somethin' bout that there first amendment.
 
christiefan915 said:
And if any of you goofballs actually read my comments, you'd realize I never once criticized the shirt itself, just the kid's behaviour and the kid's and parent's sense of entitlement.
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It would appear that it was the teacher that had the sense of entitlement and misused it.
 
Socrtease said:
Yeah god damn them idjit rednecks thinking that they are entitled to the same free speech as everyone else.I don't remember which of you ill informed people said kids have no first amendment rights in school, but I would suggest you read Tinker v. Des Moines and it's progeny so you can learn yerself somethin' bout that there first amendment.
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Can you imagine the chest beating, by the liberals, if he had been told to remove an Obama supporter t-shirt
 
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