Obama pushes banks to make home loans to people with weaker credit

But you still haven't drawn the line between the CRA, and those who crashed the economy. Sometimes children have to be scolded. This happens to be one of those times.

I posted the NY Time story from 1999

I posted the Dems opposing any reform of Fannie and Freddie regarding sub prime loans

Taxpayers have lost hundreds of billions in covering the losses of Fannie and Freddie

Now Obama wants to once again, have the government issue sub prime mortgage (and car) loans to people who do not pay their bills

But since it is a liberal Democrat - liberals are cool with that. Libs now think owning a home is a right

Just like heal care ins and look what Obamcare is doing for the Federal budget and economy

The same thing CRA did for the Federal budget and the economy
 
The Obama housing plan is simple and direct

obamahousing.jpg
 
The wealthy like a boom and bust economy.

when you have money your can make money in any market and in a boom and crash market the money is always refreed up for the gobbling.


Boom market everyone makes money.

The little guy builds up his little stacks in a house and some retirement savings and investment.


Crash market the rich make money on the loss of the little guy losing his little stacks of money in their house and some retirement savings and investments.



THEY LIKE CRASHES.


They like booms too.

when the economy is swaying back and forth in this pendulum like reality the wealthy are in hog heaven.


They wanted the boom and they wanted the crash.


Until you face the cold hard fact that there are people on this earth that will distroy the lives of the majority to gain yet MORE wealth and power without a twinge of quilt about it you are not getting it.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_States




replaced by the Second Bank of the United States, which lasted from 1816–36.[9]




Name

Dates[nb 2]

Duration

Time since previous recession

Characteristics




Copper Panic of 1789

1789–1793

~4 years

~0 years

Loss of confidence in copper coins due to debasement and counterfeiting led to commercial freeze up that halted the economy of several northern States and was not alleviated until the introduction of new paper money to restore confidence.



Panic of 1797

1796–1799

~3 years

~4 years

Just as a land speculation bubble was bursting, deflation from the Bank of England (which was facing insolvency because of the cost of Great Britain's involvement in the French Revolutionary Wars) crossed to North America and disrupted commercial and real estate markets in the United States and the Caribbean, and caused a major financial panic.[11] Prosperity continued in the south, but economic activity was stagnant in the north for three years. The young United States engaged in the Quasi-War with France.[9]



1802–1804 recession

1802–1804

~2 years

~3 years

A boom of war-time activity led to a decline after the Peace of Amiens ended the war between the United Kingdom and France. Commodity prices fell dramatically. Trade was disrupted by pirates, leading to the First Barbary War.[9]



Depression of 1807

1807–1810

~3 years

~3 years

The Embargo Act of 1807 was passed by the United States Congress under President Thomas Jefferson as tensions increased with the United Kingdom. Along with trade restrictions imposed by the British, shipping-related industries were hard hit. The Federalists fought the embargo and allowed smuggling to take place in New England. Trade volumes, commodity prices and securities prices all began to fall. Macon's Bill Number 2 ended the embargoes in May 1810, and a recovery started.[9]



1812 recession

1812

~6 months

~18 months

The United States entered a brief recession at the beginning of 1812. The decline was brief primarily because the United States soon increased production to fight the War of 1812, which began June 18, 1812.[12]



1815–21 depression

1815–1821

~6 years

~3 years

Shortly after the war ended on March 23, 1815, the United States entered a period of financial panic as bank notes rapidly depreciated because of inflation following the war. The 1815 panic was followed by several years of mild depression, and then a major financial crisis – the Panic of 1819, which featured widespread foreclosures, bank failures, unemployment, a collapse in real estate prices, and a slump in agriculture and manufacturing.[9]



1822–1823 recession

1822–1823

~1 year

~1 year

After only a mild recovery following the lengthy 1815–21 depression, commodity prices hit a peak in March 1822 and began to fall. Many businesses failed, unemployment rose and an increase in imports worsened the trade balance.[9]



1825–1826 recession

1825–1826

~1 year

~2 years

The Panic of 1825, a stock crash following a bubble of speculative investments in Latin America led to a decline in business activity in the United States and England. The recession coincided with a major panic, the date of which may be more easily determined than general cycle changes associated with other recessions.[8]



1828–1829 recession

1828–1829

~1 year

~2 years

In 1826, England forbade the United States to trade with English colonies, and in 1827, the United States adopted a counter-prohibition. Trade declined, just as credit became tight for manufacturers in New England.[9]



1833–34 recession

1833–1834

~1 year

~4 years

The United States' economy declined moderately in 1833–34. News accounts of the time confirm the slowdown. The subsequent expansion was driven by land speculation




US recessions, Free Banking Era to the Great Depression



Name

Dates[nb 2]

Duration

Time since previous recession

Business activity [nb 3]

Trade & industrial activity[nb 3]

Characteristics




1836–1838 recession



~2 years

~2 years

—32.8%



A sharp downturn in the American economy was caused by bank failures and lack of confidence in the paper currency. Speculation markets were greatly affected when American banks stopped payment in specie (gold and silver coinage).[3][14] Over 600 banks failed in this period. In the South, the cotton market completely collapsed.[9]



late 1839–late 1843 recession



~4 years

~1 year

-34.3%



This was one of the longest and deepest depressions. It was a period of pronounced deflation and massive default on debt. The Cleveland Trust Company Index showed the economy spent 68 months below its trend and only 9 months above it. The Index declined 34.3% during this depression.[15]



1845–late 1846 recession



~1 year

~2 years

−5.9%



This recession was mild enough that it may have only been a slowdown in the growth cycle. One theory holds that this would have been a recession, except the United States began to gear up for the Mexican–American War, which began April 25, 1846.[13]



1847–48 recession

late 1847–late 1848

~1 year

~1 year

−19.7%



The Cleveland Trust Company Index declined 19.7% during 1847 and 1848. It is associated with a financial crisis in Great Britain.[15][16]



1853–54 recession

1853 –Dec 1854

~1 year

~5 years

−18.4%



Interest rates rose in this period, contributing to a decrease in railroad investment. Security prices fell during this period. With the exception of falling business investment there is little evidence of contraction in this period.[3]



Panic of 1857

June 1857–Dec 1858

1 year
6 months

2 years
6 months

−23.1%



Failure of the Ohio Life Insurance and Trust Company burst a European speculative bubble in United States' railroads and caused a loss of confidence in American banks. Over 5,000 businesses failed within the first year of the Panic, and unemployment was accompanied by protest meetings in urban areas. This is the earliest recession to which the NBER assigns specific months (rather than years) for the peak and trough.[5][8][17]



1860–61 recession

Oct 1860–June 1861

8 months

1 year
10 months

−14.5%



There was a recession before the American Civil War, which began April 12, 1861. Zarnowitz says the data generally show a contraction occurred in this period, but it was quite mild.[15] A financial panic was narrowly averted in 1860 by the first use of clearing house certificates between banks.[9]



1865–67 recession

April 1865–Dec 1867

2 years
8 months

3 years
10 months

−23.8%



The American Civil War ended in April 1865, and the country entered a lengthy period of general deflation that lasted until 1896. The United States occasionally experienced periods of recession during the Reconstruction era. Production increased in the years following the Civil War, but the country still had financial difficulties.[15] The post-war period coincided with a period of some international financial instability.



1869–70 recession

June 1869–Dec 1870

1 year
6 months

1 year
6 months

−9.7%



A few years after the Civil War, a short recession occurred. It was unusual since it came amid a period when railroad investment was greatly accelerating, even producing the First Transcontinental Railroad. The railroads built in this period opened up the interior of the country, giving birth to the Farmers' movement. The recession may be explained partly by ongoing financial difficulties following the war, which discouraged businesses from building up inventories.[15] Several months into the recession, there was a major financial panic.



Panic of 1873 and the Long Depression

Oct 1873 –
Mar 1879

5 years
5 months

2 years
10 months

−33.6% (−27.3%) [nb 3]



Economic problems in Europe prompted the failure of Jay Cooke & Company, the largest bank in the United States, which burst the post-Civil War speculative bubble. The Coinage Act of 1873 also contributed by immediately depressing the price of silver, which hurt North American mining interests.[18] The deflation and wage cuts of the era led to labor turmoil, such as the Great Railroad Strike of 1877. In 1879, the United States returned to the gold standard with the Specie Payment Resumption Act. This is the longest period of economic contraction recognized by the NBER. The Long Depression is sometimes held to be the entire period from 1873–96.[19][20]



1882–85 recession

Mar 1882 –
May 1885

3 years
2 months

3 years

−32.8%

−24.6%

Like the Long Depression that preceded it, the recession of 1882–85 was more of a price depression than a production depression. From 1879 to 1882, there had been a boom in railroad construction which came to an end, resulting in a decline in both railroad construction and in related industries, particularly iron and steel.[21] A major economic event during the recession was the Panic of 1884.



1887–88 recession

Mar 1887 –
April 1888

1 year
1 month

1 year
10 months

−14.6%

−8.2%

Investments in railroads and buildings weakened during this period. This slowdown was so mild that it is not always considered a recession. Contemporary accounts apparently indicate it was considered a slight recession.[22]



1890–91 recession

July 1890 –
May 1891

10 months

1 year
5 months

−22.1%

−11.7%

Although shorter than the recession in 1887–88 and still modest, a slowdown in 1890–91 was somewhat more pronounced than the preceding recession. International monetary disturbances are blamed for this recession, such as the Panic of 1890 in the United Kingdom.[22]



Panic of 1893

Jan 1893 –
June 1894

1 year
5 months

1 year
8 months

−37.3%

−29.7%

Failure of the United States Reading Railroad and withdrawal of European investment led to a stock market and banking collapse. This Panic was also precipitated in part by a run on the gold supply. The Treasury had to issue bonds to purchase enough gold. Profits, investment and income all fell, leading to political instability, the height of the U.S. populist movement and the Free Silver movement.[23]



Panic of 1896

Dec 1895 –
June 1897

1 year
6 months

1 year
6 months

−25.2%

−20.8%

The period of 1893–97 is seen as a generally depressed cycle that had a short spurt of growth in the middle, following the Panic of 1893. Production shrank and deflation reigned.[22]



1899–1900 recession

June 1899 –
Dec 1900

1 year
6 months

2 years

−15.5%

−8.8%

This was a mild recession in the period of general growth beginning after 1897. Evidence for a recession in this period does not show up in some annual data series.[22]



1902–04 recession

Sep 1902 –Aug 1904

1 year
11 months

1 year
9 months

−16.2%

−17.1%

Though not severe, this downturn lasted for nearly two years and saw a distinct decline in the national product. Industrial and commercial production both declined, albeit fairly modestly.[22] The recession came about a year after a 1901 stock crash.



Panic of 1907

May 1907 –
June 1908

1 year
1 month

2 years
9 months

−29.2%

−31.0%

A run on Knickerbocker Trust Company deposits on October 22, 1907, set events in motion that would lead to a severe monetary contraction. The fallout from the panic led to Congress creating the Federal Reserve System.[24]



Panic of 1910–1911

Jan 1910 –
Jan 1912

2 years

1 year
7 months

−14.7%

−10.6%

This was a mild but lengthy recession. The national product grew by less than 1%, and commercial activity and industrial activity declined. The period was also marked by deflation.[22]



Recession of 1913–1914

Jan 1913–Dec 1914

1 year
11 months

1 year

−25.9%

−19.8%

Productions and real income declined during this period and were not offset until the start of World War I increased demand.[22] Incidentally, the Federal Reserve Act was signed during this recession, creating the Federal Reserve System, the culmination of a sequence of events following the Panic of 1907.[24]



Post-World War I recession

Aug 1918 –
March 1919

7 months

3 years
8 months

−24.5%

−14.1%

Severe hyperinflation in Europe took place over production in North America. This was a brief but very sharp recession and was caused by the end of wartime production, along with an influx of labor from returning troops. This, in turn, caused high unemployment.[25]



Depression of 1920–21

Jan 1920 –
July 1921

1 year
6 months

10 months

−38.1%

−32.7%

The 1921 recession began a mere 10 months after the post-World War I recession, as the economy continued working through the shift to a peacetime economy. The recession was short, but extremely painful. The year 1920 was the single most deflationary year in American history; production, however, did not fall as much as might be expected from the deflation. GNP may have declined between 2.5 and 7 percent, even as wholesale prices declined by 36.8%.[26] The economy had a strong recovery following the recession.[27]



1923–24 recession

May 1923 –
June 1924

1 year
2 months

2 years

−25.4%

−22.7%

From the depression of 1920–21 until the Great Depression, an era dubbed the Roaring Twenties, the economy was generally expanding. Industrial production declined in 1923–24, but on the whole this was a mild recession.[22]



1926–27 recession

Oct 1926 –
Nov 1927

1 year
1 month

2 years
3 months

−12.2%

−10.0%

This was an unusual and mild recession, thought to be caused largely because Henry Ford closed production in his factories for six months to switch from production of the Model T to the Model A. Charles P. Kindleberger says the period from 1925 to the start of the Great Depression is best thought of as a boom, and this minor recession just proof that the boom "was not general, uninterrupted or extensive".[28]



[edit] Great Depression onward
 
The wealthy like a boom and bust economy.

when you have money your can make money in any market and in a boom and crash market the money is always refreed up for the gobbling.


Boom market everyone makes money.

The little guy builds up his little stacks in a house and some retirement savings and investment.


Crash market the rich make money on the loss of the little guy losing his little stacks of money in their house and some retirement savings and investments.



THEY LIKE CRASHES.


They like booms too.

when the economy is swaying back and forth in this pendulum like reality the wealthy are in hog heaven.


They wanted the boom and they wanted the crash.


Until you face the cold hard fact that there are people on this earth that will distroy the lives of the majority to gain yet MORE wealth and power without a twinge of quilt about it you are not getting it.

Meanwhile Obama and the Dems raises taxes on the little guy

Obamacare causes the little guy to see his/her work hours reduced, or their job eliminated

Obama raises taxes on the job creators where the little guy either is not hired or laid off

Yes, liberal love the poor

Their policies have created millions more of them over the last 5 years
 
justin go to that link about the history of recessions in this country I gave.

study all the charts on how frequently we had a recession in this country in respect to the laws on banking we had in place.

face the fact that we had recessions every couple of years.

It was a boom and busst economy and the wealthy got wealthier and wealthier.


Then we stopped it with glass steagal.


then this country built an asbefore unseen middle class.


You can spout you republican talking points all you want and history still exsists
 
Your "history" is just that - history

It has nothing to do with what is going on now

Obama's policies are wrecking the middle class and the economy

Like him, you seem to think the US can be taxed and regulated into prosperity

Meanwhile 500,000 people gave up looking for a job in this Obama recovery

and millions more are struggling to keep up with their house payment
 
do you fucking hear yourself?


history means nothing?


man you people are the stupidest fucking fools the repoublican party ever created.


Yes history means a very fucking alot you pablum lapping clone
 
You see you fact adverse partisan with no idea what the real world is and only sees the ass end of lush limpnballs latest drug addled rant.


Your not proving anything you are merely regurgitating talking points


History is real and means much much more than that drool you licked off of Glen Becks chin
 
do you fucking hear yourself?


history means nothing?


man you people are the stupidest fucking fools the repoublican party ever created.


Yes history means a very fucking alot you pablum lapping clone


Once again trying to have civil and rational conversation with a liberal is like trying to find a virgin in the maternity ward

So I guess we have to take Obama's economic policies off the table to continue talking - right?
 
No your not.

when your having a civil converstation you dont use lies and party talking points to pad your side.

when you do you deserve to be shamed into accepting FACTS and not pretending really really stupid things like "HISTORY DOESNT MATTER".


I gave you the enitre history of recessions un the USA right up until now.


you tossed it away like trash and repeted like a fool the talking points that are nothoing but lies.
 
Since the advent of the federal reserve recessions have been more frequent and more severe.

If Clinton repealing Glass Steagall was the only thing that caused the collapse then why didn't Obama and dems reinstate it first thing? Why did we need Dodd Frank?

Did you hear that? That was Desh's head exploding
 
Your "history" is just that - historyIt has nothing to do with what is going on now

Obama's policies are wrecking the middle class and the economy

Like him, you seem to think the US can be taxed and regulated into prosperity

Meanwhile 500,000 people gave up looking for a job in this Obama recovery

and millions more are struggling to keep up with their house payment



you deserve to be called all manner of names for this stupid pack of idiot lies
 
Since the advent of the federal reserve recessions have been more frequent and more severe.

If Clinton repealing Glass Steagall was the only thing that caused the collapse then why didn't Obama and dems reinstate it first thing? Why did we need Dodd Frank?

Did you hear that? That was Desh's head exploding




Becuase if the bill had been made law it would have worked.

it did not work as planned BECAUSE the Bush SEC held bakc the protections in the bill that the Banksters didnt like.


THE BROKER RULES.


and then days after Bush stood in front of the nation to tell us all he Broke the economy they instated the broker rules.

did you know that ?
 
Becuase if the bill had been made law it would have worked.

it did not work as planned BECAUSE the Bush SEC held bakc the protections in the bill that the Banksters didnt like.


THE BROKER RULES.


and then days after Bush stood in front of the nation to tell us all he Broke the economy they instated the broker rules.

did you know that ?

Yeah yeah yeah we get it. All Bush's fault.

But then you guys put the dems in control of Congress an in 2008 you put the black in as president.

So why come in 2009 didn't the democrat controlled congress and the black guy bring back your revered Glass Steagall?

Bush stop that to from afar?
 
Yeah yeah yeah we get it. All Bush's fault.

But then you guys put the dems in control of Congress an in 2008 you put the black in as president.

So why come in 2009 didn't the democrat controlled congress and the black guy bring back your revered Glass Steagall?

Bush stop that to from afar?


Yep that is the left's #1 excuse


blame-bush.jpg


The loyal Obama foot solider dismissed these facts as lies which is all they really can do

Obama's policies are wrecking the middle class and the economy

Like him, you seem to think the US can be taxed and regulated into prosperity

Meanwhile 500,000 people gave up looking for a job in this Obama recovery

and millions more are struggling to keep up with their house payment
 
becuase the broker rules were now in place.

do you ever read the answers to questions you ask?


with the broker rules in place the sytem is fine you fucking dolt
 
becuase the broker rules were now in place.

do you ever read the answers to questions you ask?


with the broker rules in place the sytem is fine you fucking dolt


Just fine eh?

Is that why Fannie and Freddie continue to lose money?

Foreclosures continue to mount

and more people fall behind on their mortgage payments?
 
Yep that is the left's #1 excuse


blame-bush.jpg


The loyal Obama foot solider dismissed these facts as lies which is all they really can do

Obama's policies are wrecking the middle class and the economy

Like him, you seem to think the US can be taxed and regulated into prosperity

Meanwhile 500,000 people gave up looking for a job in this Obama recovery

and millions more are struggling to keep up with their house payment





see you fucking iidot, you are not having a converstation.


Your merely having spasms where you spout republican empty talking points without a shred of fact to back them and IGNORING cold hard facts given you.


This is why you FULLY deserve to be called the brain atrophied dipwad I am calling you right now.


The history of this country means everything you fucking taintwallow.


The history is full of facties you dont like because they prove your idiot talking points are nothing but idiot tlaking points so you scream facts dont matter at the top of your lungs and think that is a magic spell to keep facts as far from your tiny brain as possible.


your not debating anything your merely denying facts you dont like and repeting a montra
 
Just fine eh?

Is that why Fannie and Freddie continue to lose money?

Foreclosures continue to mount

and more people fall behind on their mortgage payments?



go get the facts to prove any one of these claims are fact.


no that doesnt mean you go to glen becks site
 
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