Another tragedy brought about by yet ANOTHER "responsible" gun owner

[Anti-Party]

5 yr Old Kills 2 yr Old Sister. "It's something you can't prepare for"

"5 Year Old Kills 2 Year Old Sister With Rile Manufactured For Children"


http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/01/us/kentucky-accidential-shooting/index.html

Lets end a typical argument here;

It takes a good toddler with a gun to stop a bad toddler with a gun. (only the 2 year old didn't have one and the 5 year old wasn't taught the dangers.)

So when we see situations like this should we do nothing because good people like me have guns and haven't done any harm? Or should we recognize "With great power comes great responsibility" and actually make sure people are responsible to own a gun BEFORE gun ownership.

I own lots of guns and the only threat I see to my collection is this movement of people who think they aren't any more dangerous than a "hammer". I think stating my guns are on the same perspective as hammers is just ignorance and will open the path to gun Confiscation (due to ignorance).

So what is the fix here?

A)Do nothing. It has nothing to do with me. I'm innocent.
B)The parents are stupid. Guns don't kill people anymore, stupid parents kill people.
C)Have thoughts about problem prevention.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Merged. We already have 170+ posts of discussion.

 

[Anti-Party]

The only one trying to prove a point is you by you giddily dancing on this girls grave in an effort to further your agenda.

Unfortunately they were not responsible gun owners if they left a loaded .22 in a corner whether there were children around or not

Lost on you is the tragedy that this is and that this poor young boy must live with this the rest of his life. You are scum worse than Al Queda.

Here is a question for you dick breath. Would Obamas background checks have prevented this?

So the same people screaming that everyone is a responsible gun owner "until proven guilty" gets cornered and calls you a bunch of names. How pathetic is this.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

"5 Year Old Kills 2 Year Old Sister With Rile Manufactured For Children"
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/01/us/kentucky-accidential-shooting/index.html

Lets end a typical argument here;

It takes a good toddler with a gun to stop a bad toddler with a gun. (only the 2 year old didn't have one and the 5 year old wasn't taught the dangers.)

So when we see situations like this should we do nothing because good people like me have guns and haven't done any harm? Or should we recognize "With great power comes great responsibility" and actually make sure people are responsible to own a gun BEFORE gun ownership.

I own lots of guns and the only threat I see to my collection is this movement of people who think they aren't any more dangerous than a "hammer". I think stating my guns are on the same perspective as hammers is just ignorance and will open the path to gun Confiscation (due to ignorance).

So what is the fix here?

A)Do nothing. It has nothing to do with me. I'm innocent.
B)The parents are stupid. Guns don't kill people anymore, stupid parents kill people.
C)Have thoughts about problem prevention.

So what is YOUR solution here?

 

[Anti-Party]

Yes and Zen Archery is all about practicing to kill. I find target shooting, especially at long range to be very meditative. Since I lefft the military I have yet to aim my weapon at another human being. I hunt deer and elk, but not with firearms, so I haven't aimed a firearm at a living creature since I left the military, yet I go to the range at least twice a month. I guess if you ever became good at something you understand the desire to do it

I think you are making a good point while avoiding the good point you oppose.

When something is practical and has a necessity you have to think about the owners and not just the people who died. It would infringe your right to shoot...........things.

 

[Anti-Party]

So what is YOUR solution here?

OMG someone asked me for "my" solution?!?!

My perspective is that we use FORCED EDUCATION in gun ownership. I remember when I took my hunters safety course and I selected "(B)take the shot" and a hunter was carrying a deer out, I'll never forget it. I could have killed him/her.

Tests and Education are mandatory for EVERYTHING in America that is considered "elite" or out of touch for "some". I can't drive a car without a test or instructor. I can't use explosives to blow a mine without a boss.

I propose that different weapons and accessories have different levels of danger. Each would require a different level of testing. Of course this would "restrict" some, but only the people that shouldn't have them to begin with..........such as parents who don't supervise their children with weapons that can kill their siblings.

ONLY BASIC CRAP LIKE THAT....heh.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

OMG someone asked me for "my" solution?!?!

My perspective is that we use FORCED EDUCATION in gun ownership. I remember when I took my hunters safety course and I selected "(B)take the shot" and a hunter was carrying a deer out, I'll never forget it. I could have killed him/her.

Tests and Education are mandatory for EVERYTHING in America that is considered "elite" or out of touch for "some". I can't drive a car without a test or instructor. I can't use explosives to blow a mine without a boss.

I propose that different weapons and accessories have different levels of danger. Each would require a different level of testing. Of course this would "restrict" some, but only the people that shouldn't have them to begin with..........such as parents who don't supervise their children with weapons that can kill their siblings.

ONLY BASIC CRAP LIKE THAT....heh.

So you'd be fine with a literacy test for voting? A license for the use of speech mediums beyond your own vocal cords in private? You only need a driver license for public roads so that's not exactly the same thing....

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

My daughter has fired thousands of rounds and never killed a single thing.

holy shit her aim must be terrible

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

holy shit her aim must be terrible

Lulz. It's suppressing fire bro.

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

Wrong...either a biometric lock that renders the gun non-functioning or a trigger lock would have prevented this.

not leaving his gun in the corner would have prevented this.

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

I know...god I hate Fudds.

i just looked up what a fudd is on urbandictionary. now I hate fudds too.

the great unwashed fence sitters of the gun world. the middle of the roaders fucking up everyone elses shit so they can derp around and shoot squirrels. fucking fudds make me rage.

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

USDouchebag

civil discourse

he's incapable.

pot, meet kettle.

 

[Anti-Party]

So you'd be fine with a literacy test for voting? A license for the use of speech mediums beyond your own vocal cords in private? You only need a driver license for public roads so that's not exactly the same thing....

This is straw man only because voting has many other reasons besides "killing" yet I applaud that you recognize uneducated voting can cause unnecessary wars and killing. "A license for speech" is strawman unless it is proved to be a threat to human lives. Today I can hand out flyers in the middle of town stating; "How to make a bomb out of home based chemicals" So is this "free speech" or is this wreckless endangerment to my fellow Americans?

America has a lot to learn. We are learning a lot recently because we are forced to. But ignorance and bias will never let us learn .

 

[USFREEDOM911]

This is straw man only because voting has many other reasons besides "killing" yet I applaud that you recognize uneducated voting can cause unnecessary wars and killing. "A license for speech" is strawman unless it is proved to be a threat to human lives. Today I can hand out flyers in the middle of town stating; "How to make a bomb out of home based chemicals" So is this "free speech" or is this wreckless endangerment to my fellow Americans?

America has a lot to learn. We are learning a lot recently because we are forced to. But ignorance and bias will never let us learn .

Why is it a strawman?
Is it because someone proposes something that interfers with what you find essential?

 

[Anti-Party]

Why is it a strawman?
Is it because someone proposes something that interfers with what you find essential?

Because "voting" wasn't created to kill ............It's sad I have to answer that.

Guns were created to kill. Any ignorance of that is ....well....ignorance. *yawn*

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Because "voting" wasn't created to kill ............It's sad I have to answer that.

Guns were created to kill. Any ignorance of that is ....well....ignorance. *yawn*

So voting has never been used to kill!!
Is that what you're saying?

Are you for the registration of bows and arrows also?

 

[Anti-Party]

So voting has never been used to kill!!
Is that what you're saying?

Are you for the registration of bows and arrows also?

I said voting wasn't "CREATED" to kill. I also stated that voting can result in killing. You are trying to put words in my mouth even though I covered very base around what you might (and did) respond with.

"Are you for the registration of bows and arrows also? " Where in gods name did this statement come from? Are you sober? Did I state I was "for" registration of anything?

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

This is straw man only because voting has many other reasons besides "killing" yet I applaud that you recognize uneducated voting can cause unnecessary wars and killing. "A license for speech" is strawman unless it is proved to be a threat to human lives. Today I can hand out flyers in the middle of town stating; "How to make a bomb out of home based chemicals" So is this "free speech" or is this wreckless endangerment to my fellow Americans?

So then you think it should be very tightly regulated right?

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

i just looked up what a fudd is on urbandictionary. now I hate fudds too.

the great unwashed fence sitters of the gun world. the middle of the roaders fucking up everyone elses shit so they can derp around and shoot squirrels. fucking fudds make me rage.

Fudds are the greatest enemy to gun rights in the America, more so then the ban nannies, because at least with the latter you know where they stand.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

I said voting wasn't "CREATED" to kill. I also stated that voting can result in killing. You are trying to put words in my mouth even though I covered very base around what you might (and did) respond with.

"Are you for the registration of bows and arrows also? " Where in gods name did this statement come from? Are you sober? Did I state I was "for" registration of anything?

If I misunderstood you, then I apologize.
Could you explain what changes in the existing law(s) would have prevented this latest tragedy or how it would have "restricted" the actions of the parent?

I propose that different weapons and accessories have different levels of danger. Each would require a different level of testing. Of course this would "restrict" some, but only the people that shouldn't have them to begin with..........such as parents who don't supervise their children with weapons that can kill their siblings.