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Steelplate said:
Yep...I don't with something that small. I have a .270, and I use the 150gr bullets. A lot of people in PA use a .30 caliber... either an 06 or the 30/30 is also popular. We have a lot of brush...so the larger caliber and heavier projectile tends to be preferred... even my .270 is a little light...but I thought it a good compromise when I bought it in case I'd ever go out West for a hunting trip....plus, it's a good varmint rifle.
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The .270 is an excellent deer round. I have a Ruger No. 1 in .270.
 
Bfgrn said:
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ROFL

If only Obama would tell his sheep to stop committing crimes, maybe we could spend some of that money on schools.
 
WinterBorn said:
The nonsense posted in the stuff ivan gave us is ridiculous. The Remington 700 is a hunting rifle. The attempt to say the wood stock was added to evade x-ray detection is laughable. The description of the Mossberg 500 is hilarious. The idea that the Mini-14 is a "sniper rifle" is even more ridiculous.

In all, the volume of misinformation (at best, at worst outright lies) in those pages is amazing.

If that is their source of information, then it is no wonder the uneducated masses want more gun control.
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Uneducated? Fuck YOU. You gun licking morons focus on hardware. Educated Parents and responsible citizens like me focus on outcomes. The most un-military grade semiautomatic assault weapon is MORE than capable of killing and maiming a large masses of men, women and children in a matter of a minute.

THIS is the source of our information...

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"It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners"
Albert Camus
 
WinterBorn said:
The nonsense posted in the stuff ivan gave us is ridiculous. The Remington 700 is a hunting rifle. The attempt to say the wood stock was added to evade x-ray detection is laughable. The description of the Mossberg 500 is hilarious. The idea that the Mini-14 is a "sniper rifle" is even more ridiculous.

In all, the volume of misinformation (at best, at worst outright lies) in those pages is amazing.

If that is their source of information, then it is no wonder the uneducated masses want more gun control.
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A simple google search showed me that the Ruger is a sniper rifle. Only your opinion says it isn't.
 
Bfgrn said:
Uneducated? Fuck YOU. You gun licking morons focus on hardware. Educated Parents and responsible citizens like me focus on outcomes. The most un-military grade semiautomatic assault weapon is MORE than capable of killing and maiming a large masses of men, women and children in a matter of a minute.

THIS is the source of our information...

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"It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners"
Albert Camus
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Could be done with a bolt or lever gun just as easily.

 
Bfgrn said:
Uneducated? Fuck YOU. You gun licking morons focus on hardware. Educated Parents and responsible citizens like me focus on outcomes. The most un-military grade semiautomatic assault weapon is MORE than capable of killing and maiming a large masses of men, women and children in a matter of a minute.


"It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners"
Albert Camus
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Please spare me. You act as though I am wanting to hand out assault rifles on a street corner. I am not against sensible gun control laws.

You got your panties in a wad because I called people uneducated, but there was a caveat to my statement that you ignored. If that nonsense is used as a source of information, then there is little wonder that so many want wholesale bans and so many think there are currently no background checks on gun sales.

Yes, there have been people murdered. Which of the recent tragic shootings would have been averted by having expanded background checks?? Can you tell me that? Which of the lunatics would have failed the expanded background checks?

Would the murderous bastard that opened fire in Sandy Hook have been unarmed with the new background check in place?

Would the murderous bastard that opened fire and had homemade bombs in the Aurora theater have been denied his guns if the new background checks were in place?




You can spew all the "Fuck you!"s you want. But it changes nothing about what I said. A campaign of misinformation and lies does not help.
 
WinterBorn said:
Please spare me. You act as though I am wanting to hand out assault rifles on a street corner. I am not against sensible gun control laws.

You got your panties in a wad because I called people uneducated, but there was a caveat to my statement that you ignored. If that nonsense is used as a source of information, then there is little wonder that so many want wholesale bans and so many think there are currently no background checks on gun sales.

Yes, there have been people murdered. Which of the recent tragic shootings would have been averted by having expanded background checks?? Can you tell me that? Which of the lunatics would have failed the expanded background checks?

Would the murderous bastard that opened fire in Sandy Hook have been unarmed with the new background check in place?

Would the murderous bastard that opened fire and had homemade bombs in the Aurora theater have been denied his guns if the new background checks were in place?




You can spew all the "Fuck you!"s you want. But it changes nothing about what I said. A campaign of misinformation and lies does not help.
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AGAIN, are any of those weapons you dismiss unable to fire multiple rounds in rapid sequence? What's the problem, won't they penetrate human skin?? You want us to believe that are not deadly weapons, and that they are merely lollipops and puppy dogs???

There were just two recent threads about background checks. NO ONE 'thinks there are currently no background checks on gun sales' The 9 out of 10 Americans who were behind the recent bill in Congress understand licensed dealers perform background checks, and that there is a hole in the law that allows people posing as a 'private seller' to move large quantities of weapons in the safe secure setting of a gun show.

If anyone is uneducated, it is people who have argued that there is no loophole. And the ones who believe the NRA represents law abiding gun owners. The NRA is a cancer on this nation, they represent gun manufacturers who could care less about public safety or keeping guns out of ANYONE'S hands.

Nothing can change what has happened, it is history, but there is no way of knowing how many of the other 80 gun deaths EACH DAY in America that could be prevented by common sense gun laws. And it is no reason to ignore no brainer legislation like expanded background checks, or for law abiding gun owners to keep supporting a lawless organization like the NRA.
 
WinterBorn said:
A Ruger Mini14 with $1,400 worth of modifications might be a sniper rifle. But the standard Mini-14 is certainly not.
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I repeat...I'm just going by what a google search says. Are all these ppl wrong? Are you able to prove it's not a sniper rifle? Your only claim is that it's not an effective sniper rifle, right? So it's still a sniper rifle?

 
Bfgrn said:
there is a hole in the law that allows people posing as a 'private seller' to move large quantities of weapons in the safe secure setting of a gun show.
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That's not a hole in the law. That is BREAKING the law. There is no loophole involved when the law is BROKEN. If you buy a SINGLE fucking firearm for the purpose of selling for a profit, you have broken the law.
 
Chapel The Evergreen said:
That's not a hole in the law. That is BREAKING the law. There is no loophole involved when the law is BROKEN. If you buy a SINGLE fucking firearm for the purpose of selling for a profit, you have broken the law.
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If private sellers at gun show were required to have background checks run on every sale, the problem disappears. Are you against people who buy a gun having to pass a background check?
 
Bfgrn said:
If private sellers at gun show were required to have background checks run on every sale, the problem disappears. Are you against people who buy a gun having to pass a background check?
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Except those private sellers can't call in a background check. Its illegal to even try. They'd have to do a transfer through a dealer who has an FFL, which means they'd have to pay a transfer fee. And just like you see with the increase in health insurance, once you make a service MANDATORY, you raise the price. Paying $100+ to sell a $200 gun is insane and harmful to the poor. I've provided excellent, and FREE, alternatives but you've routinely ignored them.
 
Bfgrn said:
Charles Whitman was a sniper on the 28th floor of a tower. Rate of fire was not paramount to this killer. Accuracy was.
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Moving the goal posts eh? Let's look at Sandy Hook then. About 100 rounds in five minutes right? Why, that's SLOWER then the average for the Mad Minute drill, and that drill includes a ton of reloads.
 
Howey said:
I repeat...I'm just going by what a google search says. Are all these ppl wrong? Are you able to prove it's not a sniper rifle? Your only claim is that it's not an effective sniper rifle, right? So it's still a sniper rifle?
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So it is a sniper rifle, but not an effective sniper rifle? Hell, a muzzleloader would qualify as a sniper rifle by that description.

The Ruger Mini14 has long been decried as a sturdy rifle but not particularly accurate. A sniper requires extreme accuracy from his weapon.

http://www.survivalblog.com/2011/06/pats-product-review-ruger-mini.html

"Every Mini I've owned over the years was 4 MOA, at best. While, this may be good enough for combat at close range, I think Ruger can do better and really close those groups up quite a bit. Because of the accuracy issue, I don't think the Mini is useful much beyond 200 yards in a combat/survival scenario."


http://www.chuckhawks.com/ruger_mini14_review.htm

"The only thing that kept me from immediately pulling the trigger on the purchase of a Mini-14 was the rifle’s poor reputation for accuracy. I read several reviews and the consensus was that Mini-14 rifles built from rifle’s introduction in the 1970’s through 2005 typically grouped from 3-6” at 100 yards. "



http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/09/william-c-montgomery/reconsidering-the-ruger-mini-14/

"But the Ruger suffered from a reputation as being comparatively crude, dated, and inaccurate."



http://www.fieldandstream.com/answe...e-semi-auto-if-so-i-think-it-has-some-advanta

The question is asked "Why aren't Mini-14s more popular?". Most of the answers involve less than stellar accuracy.
 
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