Benghazi - The Nightmare Is Over!

I do refuse.....I refuse because it can't be called a lie to claim something you believe is the truth.....you can be right or you can be wrong, but you won't
be lying....

that would make everyone of these Democrats liars too....
Bill Clinton lied
Al Gore lied
M. Albright lied
Tom Daschle lied
Nancy Pelosi lied
Bob Graham lied
Carl Levin lied and many many other Democrats .....

I don't believe they lied either, they believed it, they'd been repeating it for 10 years....10 YEARS ! If you believe it, its your truth...your perception is your truth

They were all certain Saddam had WMD's and was stockpiling and researching and testing ....the whole ball of wax.....they said over and over and no amount
of word parsing is gonna change history.....nor is Homo's Hillary quotes that you "thanked".......we heard them all before....the fact is she lived with it close up for the entire she served as "co-president"....and she voted to go to war....

the resolution was a 'defacto' declaration of war by Congress....but not an official declaration of war....
and they all knew it....looks to me like you have a case of BDS too....you've been telling your lie for so long, you've forgotten it was a lie...then as it is now.

Sad you can't man up and accept the truth that is so plain and undeniable to the rest of us.....
I understand pinheads like Thingy and Homo and Zippy living their own little wonderland, I expected better from you....

Bush's war, hack.

Bush's war.
 
We're not even talking about Bush, we're talking about what Democrats said for 10 years....Saddam, WMD, Saddam, WMD, Saddam, WMD, Saddam, WMD, over and over.



Show me the spin zippy....there are no talking points, there are only the undeniable words of Demos whining about Saddam and WMD over a period of 10 years.
and I doubt if anyone on AM radio is still talking about this at all....so just wtf are babbling about.

Don't feel bad....that link CONFIRMS everything I've always said....in context and out of context, the words don't change and thanks again.
If you read something in your link that shows something different, just spit it out...or stfu !



I'm totally vindicated in my claims, thanks to Rana....and history.

You are embarrassing yourself.
 
Bush's war, hack.

Bush's war.


Thanks for not making a fool of yourself by trying to refute ANYTHING I posted.....but then, you still make an ass of yourself by posting what you post....NOTHING.

Its so nice to kick your ass on a daily basis without ever changing the topic......BDS must be a hell of an affliction to live with.....
 
You are embarrassing yourself.


Haha....another one....don't bother refuting my post, you can't ....everything is true and factual....just keep on showing everyone what
a fool you are......is BDS you're problem too.......it almost feels like child abuse to rub your nose in your own crap all the time.....

You're pathetic....
 
Why does no one talk about the fact that in 2011 there was a bill to increase spending for security for diplomatic missions and the Republicans in the house KILLED it. Why does no one talk about the fact that from 2001-2008 there were 54 attacks on US diplomatic missions and 13 people died. In all that time there were THREE hearings. THREE! IF there was a cover up, and IF if can be linked to the President then there should be some hell to pay, buft all I hear republicans saying is IF there was a cover up and IF the administration was behind it and IF this and IF that. So far there is no there there.
Lets say you are making this up.
Honesty is always the best policy!!

Pity liberal fanatics can't see that!
 
for Nova's comment:

and again, you are wrong. If I say, right now, THERE IS NO DOUBT that the Red Sox will win the AL East, that is a lie, because, there IS, in fact, doubt. It is a completely different statement if I were to say, right now, I HAVE NO DOUBT that the Red Sox will win the AL East. THAT is NOT a lie, because I am clearly stating my belief and NOT stating a matter of fact. Team Bush repeatedly said, THERE IS NO DOUBT that Saddam has stockpiles of WMD's. That was a lie, because there WAS doubt... varying degrees of doubt throughout the intelligence community, and Team Bush was well aware that doubt existed. Your continued refusal to acknowledge that lie is quite pathetic...
 
Haha....another one....don't bother refuting my post, you can't ....everything is true and factual....just keep on showing everyone what
a fool you are......is BDS you're problem too.......it almost feels like child abuse to rub your nose in your own crap all the time.....

You're pathetic....

You are such a Bush apologist, you were probably one of those calling Clinton a liar when he was in office for his claims about Saddam. You are Republuxan hack bravo and talk out both sides of your face.

If you think I am pathetic, then I must be doing something right.
 
You are such a Bush apologist, you were probably one of those calling Clinton a liar when he was in office for his claims about Saddam. You are Republuxan hack bravo and talk out both sides of your face.

If you think I am pathetic, then I must be doing something right.


You obviously haven't read any the posts in the thread have you.....if you had, you wouldn't be talking stupid from the get go......

you and thingy have be been schooled......and don't even know it .....a sure sign of BDS....
 
You obviously haven't read any the posts in the thread have you.....if you had, you wouldn't be talking stupid from the get go......

you and thingy have be been schooled......and don't even know it .....a sure sign of BDS....

Lol , I have read them all, I just don't agree with you and your assessment.
 
You obviously haven't read any the posts in the thread have you.....if you had, you wouldn't be talking stupid from the get go......

you and thingy have be been schooled......and don't even know it .....a sure sign of BDS....

She's right. You are Bush's #1 apologist - here & anywhere.

Just for you, I'll refute all of the "facts" you have presented:

Iraq was Bush's war, and always will be.

There...everything you said was just refuted. With indisputable truth, and history on my side.
 
for Nova's comment:


No, its not a lie....it may certainly be wrong, incorrect, inaccurate, etc.....but not a lie if you believe its the truth.....

Being wrong and lying are two different things....you must understand simple English words.....they don't change just because you're in Mexico.
 
She's right. You are Bush's #1 apologist - here & anywhere.

Just for you, I'll refute all of the "facts" you have presented:

Iraq was Bush's war, and always will be.

There...everything you said was just refuted. With indisputable truth, and history on my side.

Someday evolution will take place on your planet and you will see the light....

stop wasting my time, with ignorant comments.
 
Someday evolution will take place on your planet and you will see the light....

stop wasting my time, with ignorant comments.

Only in bravo-land (really not land at all - just an ocean full of koolaid) is saying "Iraq was Bush's war" an ignorant comment.

It's such a simple, historical fact. Poor bravs - so indebted to Bush, for whatever reason.
 
No, its not a lie....it may certainly be wrong, incorrect, inaccurate, etc.....but not a lie if you think its the truth.....

Being wrong and lying are two different things....you must understand simple English words.....they don't change just because you're in Mexico.

it is you who do not understand english, my friend. Bush KNEW that there were others in the intelligence community that had doubts. The intelligence estimates all contained caveats and qualifiers that indicated that there was NOT absolute certainty about the presence of WMD's. If Bush truly believed that Saddam had WMD's all he had to say was that... "I, myself, have no doubts that Saddam has WMD's". THAT would not have been a lie. For Bush to say "THERE IS NO DOUBT" WAS a lie because he KNEW that doubts existed... maybe not in HIS head, but there was, in fact, doubt about the certainty of Saddam's stockpiles.

Words DO have meaning. THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THE RED SOX WILL WIN THE AL EAST, and I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THE RED SOX WILL WIN THE AL EAST might very well be really similar sounding sentences, but they mean different things. One is a statement of fact, the other is the statement of an opinion. I am sure that Bush truly believed that the WMD's were there. That is NOT what he said, however. What he DID say was a lie, just like me saying that THERE IS NO DOUBT that the Sox will win the AL East is a lie even as I say it... because, as I said before, there IS doubt, and I am well aware of it.
 
Only in bravo-land (really not land at all - just an ocean full of koolaid) is saying "Iraq was Bush's war" an ignorant comment.

It's such a simple, historical fact. Poor bravs - so indebted to Bush, for whatever reason.


Trying to play word games now ?.....not interested.....you can't refute any of my post and just respond with ignorant rhetoric.....that what you do
thats what you always do.....are you copying rana or is she following your lead ?......come back when you;ve got something, you bore me.
 
it is you who do not understand english, my friend. Bush KNEW that there were others in the intelligence community that had doubts. The intelligence estimates all contained caveats and qualifiers that indicated that there was NOT absolute certainty about the presence of WMD's. If Bush truly believed that Saddam had WMD's all he had to say was that... "I, myself, have no doubts that Saddam has WMD's". THAT would not have been a lie. For Bush to say "THERE IS NO DOUBT" WAS a lie because he KNEW that doubts existed... maybe not in HIS head, but there was, in fact, doubt about the certainty of Saddam's stockpiles.

Words DO have meaning. THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THE RED SOX WILL WIN THE AL EAST, and I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THE RED SOX WILL WIN THE AL EAST might very well be really similar sounding sentences, but they mean different things. One is a statement of fact, the other is the statement of an opinion. I am sure that Bush truly believed that the WMD's were there. That is NOT what he said, however. What he DID say was a lie, just like me saying that THERE IS NO DOUBT that the Sox will win the AL East is a lie even as I say it... because, as I said before, there IS doubt, and I am well aware of it.


It doesn't matter what "others' believe, it matters what YOU believe.....now its more word games because he didn't specity "me, myself"......
Thats bogus....when I talk to people its assumed I'm speaking for myself unless I specify otherwise...not the other way around....
Is that the way it is in Mexico.....If I say, there is no doubt that cactus is big, who the hell do you think I'm speaking for, the rancher down the road ?

Man are you grasping at straws .... man up mate, you're embarrassing yourself...we all speak for ourselves unless you indicate otherwise....
Just as Al Gore did....."We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.".....do you think he was speaking for the previous Clinton Admin or the entire United States....who is 'we' ? Can you or I assign anyone we see fit to define who 'we' is ?

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. --Senator Graham....who is he speaking for, the entire senate maybe ?
 
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It doesn't matter what "others' believe, it matters what YOU believe.....now its more word games because he didn't specity "me, myself"......
Thats bogus....when I talk to people its assumed I'm speaking for myself unless I specify otherwise...not the other way around....
Is that the way it is in Mexico.....If I say, there is no doubt that cactus is big, who the hell do you think I'm speaking for, the rancher down the road ?

Man are you grasping at straws .... man up mate, you're embarrassing yourself...we all speak for ourselves unless you indicate otherwise....
Just as Al Gore did......"there is no doubt".....do you think he was speaking for the previous Clinton Admin or who ?

word games? bullshit. words have meaning. THERE IS NO DOUBT means something entirely different than I HAVE NO DOUBT. When the President tells us about Saddam's WMD's, he has, at his disposal, a wealth of intelligence about that topic gathered from a wide variety of sources, and he has, at his disposal, detailed analysis of that intelligence. If, after reading all of that, he pats the pile of intelligence documents and says, THERE IS NO DOUBT IN HERE... that's a fucking lie. I could give a rat's ass whether or not HE did or did not believe that Saddam had WMD's... clearly he did... but that is not what he said. He lied. Gore lied. There WAS doubt. They both knew of the existence of that doubt, but they both chose to tell us there was none. The only difference being, of course, that Gore lied after he left office and was a private citizen. Bush lied while CinC and used that lie to lead us into an unnecessary war.

Words have meanings, unless, of course, you're bravo and you get caught and then, all of a sudden, words suddenly take on colloquial idiomatic meanings where they mean something different than what they actually do. THERE IS NO DOUBT is a statement of fact. period. I HAVE NO DOUBT is a statement of opinion. period.
 
Benghazi is a bunch of bullshit.

So was fast and furious.

So was solyndra.

The IRS targeting teabaggers....now that could get interesting.


Just a heads up.

My love for you is no secret good sister.

For anyone who doesn't already know .. I love Darla.

I don't require my friends to believe everything that I do, and I know that you don't either.

Benghazi is a long ass way from being just bullshit .. and with much respect, I can prove the lie of Libya in under 30 seconds .. and you know it.

The invasion of Libya is surrounded by lies.

If you and I can have this conversation, I'd like to have it.
 
and who gives a shit about a fucking cactus and whether or not you think it's big or not? Do you honestly think that someone is going to get up in your grill about that and say, hey wait a minute... there may, in fact, be people who don't think that cactus is all that big... you LIED to me! Of course not. However, if you are a used car salesman and you tell me, there is no doubt that this car has never been in an accident and never had body work done and there is no doubt that you'll love it... and, after I drive it off the lot, the car starts falling apart and my mechanic looks at it and tells me it's a pile of rust and bondo and the frame is bent from a head on collision, THEN, I'm gonna get on your case. Bush lied about there being absolute certainty concerning the existence of stockpiles of WMD's. period. He fucking lied. There was not absolute certainty and he said there was. That's a lie whether he believed in his heart of hearts that stockpiles existed or not. That war was started on a lie and no amount of dixie-esque historical revision will ever change that fact.
 
BAC and NOVA becoming best buddies on this board has to be one of the most surreal things I've seen.

Should give you pause, BAC. Doubt it does - but it should.

No, that kind of bullshit only makes sense to dumb people .. no offense, but truth is the light brother. It's why we are so divided.

If either NOVA or I post comments that we don't agree on .. I will argue that disagreement based on THAT disagreement alone .. not based on what he thinks on other issues, or what party he belongs to, or what he thinks about black people.

I'm here for intellectual discussions, not for the popularity contest.

I don't have a side other than the side of humanity and the American people .. which is frankly brother why many don't understand me.
 
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