Why does Israel support Al Qaida - Aren't they supposed to be enemies?

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Something very strange is going on with the so-called 'war on terror.'

Israel and the United States both SUPPORT Al Qaida, the most vicious gang of terrorists in the world .. the same gang that was supposedly behind 9/11.

Why would Israel, who Al Qaida supposedly hates most of all, be supporting them?

Israel caught supporting Al-Qaeda terrorists from Syria

Not only has Israel supported Al-Qaeda-led rebels in Syria, but back in 2002 Israel was caught actually creating an Al-Qaeda group in order to justify attacks on Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.

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http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2013...ht-supporting-al-qaeda-terrorists-from-syria/

Israel 'faked al-Qaeda presence'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2550513.stm

Syria: Attack on military facility was a 'declaration of war' by Israel
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/05/world/meast/syria-violence

-- I'm simply asking for opinion.
 
Something very strange is going on with the so-called 'war on terror.'

Israel and the United States both SUPPORT Al Qaida, the most vicious gang of terrorists in the world .. the same gang that was supposedly behind 9/11.

Why would Israel, who Al Qaida supposedly hates most of all, be supporting them?

Israel caught supporting Al-Qaeda terrorists from Syria

Not only has Israel supported Al-Qaeda-led rebels in Syria, but back in 2002 Israel was caught actually creating an Al-Qaeda group in order to justify attacks on Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.

more
http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2013...ht-supporting-al-qaeda-terrorists-from-syria/

Israel 'faked al-Qaeda presence'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2550513.stm

Syria: Attack on military facility was a 'declaration of war' by Israel
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/05/world/meast/syria-violence

-- I'm simply asking for opinion.

I suspect that it has a lot to do with Hezbollah and Shia.
 
Something very strange is going on with the so-called 'war on terror.'

Israel and the United States both SUPPORT Al Qaida,.

Nonsense. It is the Syrian people fighting against Assad. The Free Syrian Army. The presence of Al Qaeda in Syria doesnt mean everybody in Syria has joined Al Qaeda.
 
Nonsense. It is the Syrian people fighting against Assad. The Free Syrian Army. The presence of Al Qaeda in Syria doesnt mean everybody in Syria has joined Al Qaeda.

Nonsense. It's the same elements fighting against Assad that fought against Gaddafi .. often using Gaddafi's weapons.

Most Syrians back President Assad, but you'd never know from western media
Assad's popularity, Arab League observers, US military involvement: all distorted in the west's propaganda war
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/17/syrians-support-assad-western-propaganda

Israel and the US both support KNOWN elements of Al Queda.
 
Nonsense. It's the same elements fighting against Assad that fought against Gaddafi .. often using Gaddafi's weapons.

Most Syrians back President Assad, but you'd never know from western media
Assad's popularity, Arab League observers, US military involvement: all distorted in the west's propaganda war
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/17/syrians-support-assad-western-propaganda

Israel and the US both support KNOWN elements of Al Queda.

I was listening to a report on BBC radio this morning and one of their foreign correspondents said that there are up to 1000 different rebel groupings in Syria.
 
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Aaaaaand it was the Libyan people fighting against Gaddafi. The presence of Al Qaeda in libya didnt transform all ibyans into members of Al Qaeda.

You're wrong again.


That was the largest demonstration in world history standing FOR GADDAFI and AGAINST Obomber and NATO.

Connections Between Al Qaeda And Libyan Rebels Run Deep
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/connections-between-al-qaeda-and-libyan-rebels-run-deep/

If you don't already know that the Libyan rebels were composed of Al Qaida fighters, then you don't really have enough information to even be having this conversation.
 
I was listening to a report on BBC radio this morning and one of their foreign correspondents said that there are up to a 1000 different rebel groupings in Syria.

Most of them are allied with Al Qaida.

Islamists suffer setback in Syria with killing of al-Qaeda-linked leader (Video)

Despite the cheerleading and support of Western nations, the Syrian rebels fighting President Bashar al-Assad's military suffered a serious setback on Tuesday

The Syrian army killed the leader of the al-Qaeda-allied Nusra Front in the Syrian city of al-Qussair during all-out-combat between the Islamist-led rebels and government troops, according to an Israeli source.

According to Benjamin Weinstein, an expert on Islamist terrorist groups, the Nusra Front chief Abu Omar was killed along with a dozen subordinates.

He was shot-to-death as the Syrian army continued to plow through the rebel defenses for the third consecutive day in order to achieve Assad's quest to regain control that city which is located adjacent to Lebanon's porous borders, al-Mayadeen TV said.

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http://www.examiner.com/article/isl...-syria-with-killing-of-al-qaeda-linked-leader

Profile: Syria's al-Nusra Front

The al-Nusra Front's pledge of allegiance to al-Qaeda has ended speculation over the suspected ties between the Syrian jihadist group and the Islamist militant network.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18048033
 
Had I said ALL "the Libyan people" were fighting Assad I would have been wrong. I didnt, I am not. You simply arent comprehending what I wrote.

Obviously it wasn't the Libyan people who fought against Gaddafi, but rather Al Qaida .. from BENGHZAI.

It isn't the Syrian people who are fighting against Assad either, but rather elements of Al Qaida.

Without massive assistance from NATO .. the Libyan 'rebels' would have been easily crushed by the government and the people.

The world saw what we did in Libya and they aren't having it in Syria .. thus, the so-called 'rebels' there are being crushed.

Syrian opposition calls for Nato protection
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/mid...yria-crisis-assad-forces-retake-baba-amr-live
 
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Nonsense. It's the same elements fighting against Assad that fought against Gaddafi .. often using Gaddafi's weapons.

Nonsense. Your veteransnews article took the DEBKA article that said that Israel was medically treating "rebels", and the AFP article that said they were treating Free Syrian Army "fighters", and simply took that to mean Al Qaeda, with nothing to support that assertion.
 
Why would Israel, who Al Qaida supposedly hates most of all, be supporting them?

Aside from the fact that your article contains no links, no proof, no nothing and uses your buddy and fellow crazy conspiracy nut Alex Jones and InfoWars as a source, I give you my initial opinion.

Politics, and war, make strange bedfellows.

-- I'm simply asking for opinion.

Here's another opinion. I never heard of "Veterans News Today". As a veteran, I thought that strange. After further research on Google, all I could find was a few articles, one attributed to "Clark Kent", another to Alsion Weir, a prominent anti-semite pig. I don't know if you intended to use this site, or just heard about them while praying before Alex Jones, but in doing so have displayed an amazing disregard for the Jewish people and have succeeded in me ignoring your stupidity from now on.

I continued trying to find out more about this "Veterans News Today" Finally, I clicked on the link on the upper right side of their website to a Facebook page, where I got my answer.

The facebook page is Veterans Today, which describes itself as "The Veterans Today Network is a full service marketing network of web sites that service the U.S. Military and Veterans Community.", which led to a wiki search of "The Veterans Today Network":
Veterans Today lists as its editorial board of directors former members of the U.S. military Gordon Duff (senior editor and chairman of the board), Major Bobby Hanifin, James H. Fetzer and Clinton Bastin; former members of intelligence agencies Lt. General Hamid Gul (Pakistan), Col. Eugene Khrushchev ((former)Soviet Union), and Jim W. Dean (managing editor), Gwenyth Todd and Leo Wanta (United States); as well as Jeff Rense, Carol Duff, Khalil Nouri and Michael Harris.[5]

Veterans Today publishes original and reprint articles by editorial board members,[5] as well as writers such as Alan Hart,[6] Gilad Atzmon,[7] Ingrid R. Zundel,[8] Ismail Salami,[9] Kevin Barrett,[10] J. Bruce Campbell,[11] Mark D. Siljander,[12] Tim King,[13] and Wayne Madsen.[14]
Content [edit]

Veterans Today features "writing by veterans, for veterans", focusing on a range of topics, including disability benefits, veteran suicide rates, economic disparities for veterans and police violence against Occupy Wall Street protests and injuries to protesting veterans. Jim W. Dean, a managing editor, has said “Our position is, if all we’re ever doing is scrambling for vet benefits and staying quiet on everything else, than nothing is going to change.”[15] It also publishes articles about the Israel lobby in the United States and Israeli political and military policies.[3]

Veterans Today also reprints material from Iran's Mehr News Agency.[16] and its state-owned Press TV news agency.[17] Editor Gordon Duff is a military affairs analyst for Press TV.[18] Jonathan Kay, author of "Among the Truthers", wrote on his blog that Press TV exploits the "anti-Semitic Veterans Today web site to spread 9/11 conspiracy theories".[19] Veterans Today later printed Kevin Barret's poor review of Kay's book which condemned "Kay’s worst, most libelous ad-hominem" his "attempt to link 9/11 truth to holocaust denial". Barrett called him a "holocaust apologist, a supporter of the mass murder of millions of innocent people in the 9/11 wars".[20] Iranian Kourosh Ziabari, awarded "Iranian Superior Youth Award" by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad,[21] writes for Veterans Today.[22]
Criticism [edit]

The Anti-Defamation League characterizes Gordon Duff, the VT senior editor and chairman of the board, as a "anti-Semitic conspiracist." In a July 2010 essay on VT, Duff asserted that the "five dancing Israelis" arrested on 9/11 were part of a "team of Israeli intelligence agents" who remotely guided the planes into the World Trade Center with the knowledge of "top members of America's military." He added that America's security continues to be threatened "by a nefarious and disloyal group of Americans who have dual U.S./Israeli citizenship and who control government organizations and private companies." In a separate piece, he wrote that "the Israeli lobby" is "the most powerful and ruthless group in the world."[3] The Southern Poverty Law Center also writes that Veterans Today propagates conspiracies about Israel orchestrating the September 11 attacks as well as about Holocaust Denial.[4] Journalist Arnaud de Borchgrave described Gordon Duff in 2010 as "a 100 percent disabled Marine Vietnam veteran [who] states flatly that Sept. 11, 2001, was a CIA-Mossad conspiracy and that Osama bin Laden was not involved and died in 2001" and that audio and video recordings aired by Al-Jazeera after the attack were "Clever Israeli forgeries."[23]

Two columnists for the National Post have criticized Veterans Today for publishing an article which they claimed "verges into Holocaust denial." The article, written by VT columnist J. Bruce Campbell in May 2011, states that:
“The holy gas chamber is a fake. Which makes the entire Holocaust story a fake. You can study it for a day or for a lifetime and your conclusion will be the same. There was never a plan for exterminating Jews and there was never an instrument. As Professor Robert Faurisson has asked for years, ‘Show me a gas chamber. Draw for me a gas chamber.’ It can’t be done because there was never such a thing.” The author also writes that “the main purpose of keeping alive the Holocaust is to protect Jewish banking practices.”[24][25][26]

According to the Anti-Defamation League, Veterans Today has promulgated the conspiracy theory that Israel orchestrated WikiLeaks as a public relations campaign. Gordon Duff has charged Julian Assange with cooperating with Israeli intelligence,[27] and in an interview with the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, he said that "WikiLeaks is obviously concocted by an intelligence agency. It's a ham-handed action by Israel to do its public relations."[28]

In September 2011, the University of Lethbridge initially congratulated a student, Josh Blakeney, for becoming a writer for VT shortly after his graduation. In response to subsequent criticism, the Dean of Graduate Studies, Dr. Robert Wood, stated that the congratulatory note was the result of an “administrative oversight" and added that "In my capacity as Dean of Graduate Studies, I unequivocally retract this congratulatory note." Dr. Wood also criticized Veterans Today, stating that "The anti-Semitic content that is periodically published in Veterans Today is morally repugnant, and it deeply offends the core principles of tolerance, respect, and citizenship upon which the University of Lethbridge is founded."[29][30][31]

Veteran's Today financial editor Michael Harris was criticized for asserting in an interview on Press TV that December 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting was a "revenge killing" by Israel. The Anti-Defamation League responded stating "Veterans Today is known for promulgating some of the most outrageous anti-Israel and anti-Semitic conspiracy theories."[32]

Harris also alleged that Israeli "death squads" were responsible for the 2011 Tucson shooting, 2011 Norway attacks and 2012 Aurora shooting and that the "Jewish-owned and Jewish-controlled" Hollywood was responsible for perpetuating a "culture of violence" within the United States.[33] A Washington Post story on the interviews notes that Harris "publicly associates with neo-Nazi groups".[34][35] The SPLC stated that Harris' comments indicated that VT "is now squarely in neo-Nazi territory."[36]


So, there you have it BAC. You have officially crossed the bridge from stupid and silly conspiracy theories and landed in outright bigoted, virulently anti-semitic, KKK and neo-Nazi loving country, embracing them as if they were your long lost child.

FUCK YOU. As a Jew, I spit in your face.
 
Aside from the fact that your article contains no links, no proof, no nothing and uses your buddy and fellow crazy conspiracy nut Alex Jones and InfoWars as a source, I give you my initial opinion.

Politics, and war, make strange bedfellows.



Here's another opinion. I never heard of "Veterans News Today". As a veteran, I thought that strange. After further research on Google, all I could find was a few articles, one attributed to "Clark Kent", another to Alsion Weir, a prominent anti-semite pig. I don't know if you intended to use this site, or just heard about them while praying before Alex Jones, but in doing so have displayed an amazing disregard for the Jewish people and have succeeded in me ignoring your stupidity from now on.

I continued trying to find out more about this "Veterans News Today" Finally, I clicked on the link on the upper right side of their website to a Facebook page, where I got my answer.

The facebook page is Veterans Today, which describes itself as "The Veterans Today Network is a full service marketing network of web sites that service the U.S. Military and Veterans Community.", which led to a wiki search of "The Veterans Today Network":



So, there you have it BAC. You have officially crossed the bridge from stupid and silly conspiracy theories and landed in outright bigoted, virulently anti-semitic, KKK and neo-Nazi loving country, embracing them as if they were your long lost child.

FUCK YOU. As a Jew, I spit in your face.

Hey Howey, stop sitting on the fence!!
 
Aside from the fact that your article contains no links, no proof, no nothing and uses your buddy and fellow crazy conspiracy nut Alex Jones and InfoWars as a source, I give you my initial opinion.

Politics, and war, make strange bedfellows.



Here's another opinion. I never heard of "Veterans News Today". As a veteran, I thought that strange. After further research on Google, all I could find was a few articles, one attributed to "Clark Kent", another to Alsion Weir, a prominent anti-semite pig. I don't know if you intended to use this site, or just heard about them while praying before Alex Jones, but in doing so have displayed an amazing disregard for the Jewish people and have succeeded in me ignoring your stupidity from now on.

I continued trying to find out more about this "Veterans News Today" Finally, I clicked on the link on the upper right side of their website to a Facebook page, where I got my answer.

The facebook page is Veterans Today, which describes itself as "The Veterans Today Network is a full service marketing network of web sites that service the U.S. Military and Veterans Community.", which led to a wiki search of "The Veterans Today Network":



So, there you have it BAC. You have officially crossed the bridge from stupid and silly conspiracy theories and landed in outright bigoted, virulently anti-semitic, KKK and neo-Nazi loving country, embracing them as if they were your long lost child.

FUCK YOU. As a Jew, I spit in your face.

FUCK YOU .. FUCK YOU AS A JEW .. FUCK YOU .. AND IF YOU SPAT IN MY FACE I WOULD BEAT YOUR IGNORANT ASS TO A PULP.

YOU'RE THE DUMBEST POSTER ON THIS BOARD
 
I've said NOTHING disparaging about Jewish people .. I never have.

This is a question about foreign policy and the STATE OF ISRAEL.

Yet, this ignorant fuck Howey presumes to use his being a Jew to shut down any conversation that he doesn't like.
 
Syria – the armed opposition gets a little help from Israel

On Saturday, Israel bombed a Syrian military installation outside Damascus called Jamraya in Mt Qassioun, about 15 kms (10 miles) east of the border with Lebanon, in the mountains near Damascus. In previous days, reported violations of Lebanese airspace had increased and it’s most likely Israel attacked while its planes were still in Lebanese airspace. The purported reason for the attack was to prevent movement of missiles to Hezbollah.

I find the reasons given by Israel to be purely for propaganda and insufficient to explain what drove the attacks. It’s an open secret in the region that Hezbollah has far more missiles In Lebanon right now that in 2006 and those that are stockpiled in Syria for Hezbollah’s use would not significantly change the situation. Hezbollah controls much of the cargo coming in and out of the airport in Beirut and most of its weapons shipments from Iran have been coming in via that route, particularly since the movement of equipment through Syria has become quite dangerous in the last few years as the conflict in Syria has raged. It is true that Syria stockpiles some rather advanced and accurate missiles for Hezbollah but Hezbollah already has inside Lebanon some of the Scud D missiles that were purportedly destroyed by the Israeli raid on Jamraya. Additionally, there is no evidence to suggest that Syria was thinking of moving those missiles into Hezbollah’s hands. Therefore, it is necessary to look at why the attacks occurred at this point in time.

The main reason I think Israel attacked Jamraya is that it is showing support to the opposition in Syria by weakening the Syrian Army thus continuing the conflict and trying to avert an Army victory. The opposition have recently been routed in several areas of Syria – Homs, Idlib, Qusayr, Daraa and various part of the Aleppo countryside. They are in the process of being pushed out of the Damascus beltway. (These reports do not often appear in western media who seem to only want to report opposition victories but are readily available in English-language media from the Middle East).

Opposition supply lines have been cut from Lebanon and Turkey with the Syrian Army and National Defence Militia (a militia trained in guerrilla tactics that does not rely on orders from the army to carry out its work) reporting regular ambushes along the Orontes River with Turkey and the mountain supply routes from Lebanon near Arsal, Otaiba and Tal-Kalakh. This means that it has become increasingly difficult for supplies of new fighters, arms and food/fuel to the oppositions which is increasingly moving its operations east towards the Iraq border and causing clashes with tribal groups in that area.

Israel could be calculating that the Syrian regime will not respond and that it can even up the playing field for the opposition who are in the process of being pushed out of the western part of the country and thus allow the continued destruction of hated enemy. It seems as though in addition to reverses on the ground, much of the opposition’s propaganda war is failing – all their claims of massacres and chemicals weapons use by the regime have not galvanised sufficient assistance from NATO or the GCC to overthrow the regime and now it appears that Carla del Ponte has found evidence that the rebels themselves have been caught using sarin nerve gas, not the regime. It should come as no surprise that Israel is now siding with the opposition since it appears that WINEP, the pro-Israeli think tank in Washington DC with close ties to Israel is hosting meetings with senior Syrian opposition figures.

As for the US role, I can’t imagine that the US did not know about this attack beforehand and perhaps greenlighted it. Both countries would assume (correctly in my view) that the Syrian military is not in a position to fight on two fronts and would therefore not retaliate against the attacks. President Obama would also prefer that US assets not get involved for several reasons: no real domestic support for an attack with the US economy and budget still in a parlous state and all those Russian warships in the Mediterranean. President Obama does not seem to have a preference for open attacks by military assets; rather he prefers the indirect, such as drone attacks or the use of proxies such as the Gulf States supplying the Syrian opposition. But by supporting these attacks, the US gets to project to its allies that it is being strong on Syria and that it is “doing something”.

I think that this is a stupid move geopolitically. To be seen on the side of the Syrian opposition will discredit the opposition in the eyes of many Arabs who are not fundamentalist Islamists. The recent Pew Poll shows that there is no love for Assad among Arabs but there is strong opposition in the Arab world against any foreign intervention. This attack will strengthen that opposition. But that’s not really saying much. While Arab public opinion is strongly against intervention in Syria, Arab monarchs won’t object to the Israeli attack. But the primary reason that I think it’s a stupid move is that it will harden opposition to the rebels in Syria while not causing sufficient damage to the regime to weaken it enough to allow the rebels to gain the upper hand. The Syrians are claiming about 43 deaths and most likely the continuing explosions in the area indicate a loss of ordnance. The loss of ordnance is not that critical and can easily be made up by Iranian and Russian supply. To achieve the fall of Bashar al-Assad it would be necessary to weaken the military, which would require continual aerial forays to hit not just materiel but to also eliminate command structures. Not only is Israel is not equipped to do this (since their resources are strong but really only designed for short, quick wars) but the political fallout from this type of situation upon the region would be horrific. Even moving towards more regular attacks would cause a level of volatility that could have serious consequences in the region, politically, economically and further loss of human life.

In the end, it is painful to watch the cruel game being played in Syria and far more painful for Syrians to endure it. After over 2 years of civil war, it is clear to everyone except some western countries and Gulf States that the Syrian regime is not going to be toppled by the armed opposition, yet just enough support continues to flow to ensure that the violence and bloodshed continues. Syrians, long victims of a repressive police state (a regime of which I am firmly opposed) which has had no problems killing and disappearing its own people, are now also victims to those who wish to prolong the conflict which is causing such great loss of life and placed over a million people in refugee status. It seems that that several NATO countries and the Gulf autocrats, awash in oil money, who support the armed opposition forces are indulging in magical geopolitical fantasies, thinking if they throw enough money at Syria, they'll get what they want.

It’s hard to see a way out of this situation that will end well for the Syrian people.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/...ed-opposition-gets-a-little-help-from-Israel#
 
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