Emmett Till / Trayvon Martin - An Awakening to Racist Evil in America

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Darla said:
Onceler, you literally have zero standing to state what does or does not do a "disservice to Emmett Till". That is exactly like when a woman says she was date raped, and Tom posts an article about why real rape only happens when you have knife held to your throat and were badly beaten, and says that the woman who is "crying" about date rape is doing a disservice to real rape victims. I have heard that shit all my life. This is what you are doing to BAC. How can you even think it's anywhere near okay to tell him that he is doing a disservice to Emmett Till????
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Voted4Reagan said:
Ahhhhh... the intellectual giant known as "RUNE" returns to offer his profanity laced diatribe yet again.

Tell me sir... Show me where I have said ONE thing that can be considered Racist... please... show me one sentence or statement that I have made on this board that is Racist. Go on... cite it for me.... show everyone.

I offered the sociological comparison of how my people transcended slavery, discrimination and oppression as a guideline for the way Everyone can escape it.

So show me where I am a racist sir... I bet you can't.

I'll leave you with an ancient Irish Blessing:

Póg mo thóin. Mallacht Chromail ort !
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Oh, go eat a potato.
 
4Reagan, you are a racist because you present the story of the Irish and, basically, say it's the fault of the black people that they haven't done as well as the Irish have. This crap statement - "ANY person can rise above discrimination and oppression. It requires individual effort, self motivation and the freedom from interference that holds people back and makes them dependent on others. When a people stop believing they are victims and start acting for the betterment of their people as a whole they will escape those bonds. Regardless of Race, Creed or National Origin."

So you are blaming the victim - black people - rather than those who have kept them down, "interfered" with them, killed them, refused them good jobs, refused them schooling, etc etc etc.

Black people have done a hell of a lot given the barriers stacked against them. But it's still ok to kill them if you can somehow claim "self-defense"; the white person's story will be believed.

The Martin case is an example; the women who shot into the air and got 20 years.

Well, we've spent too much time on 4Reagan.

BAC, the struggle will keep going; and don't let the idiots on this site drag you down.
 
Voted4Reagan said:
Tekky... I will compliment you on a fair argument. BUT... I wont hesitate to say that I can name several people who would look at the situation today and be appalled by how people are reacting to this verdict.

Those people being:

George Washington Carver
Martin Luther King
Malcom X
Frederick Douglass
Thurgood Marshall
W.E.B. Du Bois
Booker T. Washington

And thousands more would disagree...

George Washington Carver was born a Slave and became one of the greatest scientists, inventors and Educators this country ever knew or has known.

It's what you do with YOURSELF that determines success... not what others do for you. Success is dependent on the individual.

This is a universal principle, not one specific to any singular race of people.
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:palm: DUMBEST POST EVER MADE BY A BREATHING HUMAN BEING

It demonstrates no knowledge or understanding of what these people stood for at all. Not even the slightest whiff of knowledge.
 
People don't live in a vacume



pretending systematic racism was NOT employed against black people from the first day they set foot on this soil is just insanity.


Its like standing in front of five kids and beating one with a stick while proclaiming how they all have the same chance of being able to win the marathon they are all about to enter
 
Rune said:
Certainly.
You proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are a racist moron by posting your ancient history diatribe about white history in this thread.
You sir, are a bigot, plain and simple.

Do you understand the concept of posting on topic?

Clearly not, since you posted your distraction in the most inappropriate thread possible.

Bother me not with your protestations of my profanity. If you had any care whatsoever for the murdered son,

you would not EVER have posted your irish history in this thread to distract from the national tragedy we are trying to come to terms with,

the tragedy of which you are clearly a part of the problem.

I would tell you you have the intellect of a dog, but today I do not choose to insult dogs.
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in other words a sociological comparison is beyond your ability to comprehend. In other words... all you can do is call names and play the Race Card.

But I have seen that from you for months... like others here you discard reason and history because emotional response is all you know.

History shows us how ALL people can escape discrimination... You choose to ignore that history... I say that YOU are the problem. Narrow of focus and bereft of the ability to see beyond your own perceived injustices.

you cant dwell in the past and expect to move forward.... But you can look to the past as inspiration on HOW to move forward.

But that is above your comprehension and childish profanity.
 
Rune said:
Certainly.
You proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are a racist moron by posting your ancient history diatribe about white history in this thread.
You sir, are a bigot, plain and simple.

Do you understand the concept of posting on topic?

Clearly not, since you posted your distraction in the most inappropriate thread possible.

Bother me not with your protestations of my profanity. If you had any care whatsoever for the murdered son,

you would not EVER have posted your irish history in this thread to distract from the national tragedy we are trying to come to terms with,

the tragedy of which you are clearly a part of the problem.

I would tell you you have the intellect of a dog, but today I do not choose to insult dogs.
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Touche'. He made it all about him, when it wasn't. Another example of white privilege on steroids.
 
Voted4Reagan said:
Tekky... I will compliment you on a fair argument. BUT... I wont hesitate to say that I can name several people who would look at the situation today and be appalled by how people are reacting to this verdict.

Those people being:

George Washington Carver
Martin Luther King
Malcom X
Frederick Douglass
Thurgood Marshall
W.E.B. Du Bois
Booker T. Washington

And thousands more would disagree...

George Washington Carver was born a Slave and became one of the greatest scientists, inventors and Educators this country ever knew or has known.

It's what you do with YOURSELF that determines success... not what others do for you. Success is dependent on the individual.

This is a universal principle, not one specific to any singular race of people.
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You would be wrong.
You simply do not and cannot know how a black man would feel about the murder of an innocent black child,
since you don't understand it even as a white man who claims centuries of degradation.

You are nothing but a fool. Your continued posting continues to provide ample proof of your arrogant presumptuous foolishness.

Hang your head in shame, fool , since it is all you have.
 
Voted4Reagan said:
in other words a sociological comparison is beyond your ability to comprehend. In other words... all you can do is call names and play the Race Card.

But I have seen that from you for months... like others here you discard reason and history because emotional response is all you know.

History shows us how ALL people can escape discrimination... You choose to ignore that history... I say that YOU are the problem. Narrow of focus and bereft of the ability to see beyond your own perceived injustices.

you cant dwell in the past and expect to move forward.... But you can look to the past as inspiration on HOW to move forward.

But that is above your comprehension and childish profanity.
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It is you, most foolish man, who dwells in the past, the very thing I chastised you for.

I am indeed dealing with the event of today, all that is relevant, as compared with your words, all completely irrelevant.

Protestations of another's profanity are the last refuge of those with no true point whatsover.

May God forgive you, I will not.
 
Voted4Reagan said:
in other words a sociological comparison is beyond your ability to comprehend. In other words... all you can do is call names and play the Race Card.

But I have seen that from you for months... like others here you discard reason and history because emotional response is all you know.

History shows us how ALL people can escape discrimination... You choose to ignore that history... I say that YOU are the problem. Narrow of focus and bereft of the ability to see beyond your own perceived injustices.

you cant dwell in the past and expect to move forward.... But you can look to the past as inspiration on HOW to move forward.

But that is above your comprehension and childish profanity.
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Lies and sissy chatter. All "white people" can escape discrimination, given time. Race is used by some whites to justify their mistreatment of non-whites. Pure and simple. Sad thing is I've noticed on several political debate forums, when the subjects of race and racism come up, how the conversation turns to what blacks did to other blacks, "allegedly" selling their own into slavery, and the topic of whites selling whites into slavery never comes up. As if, how can whites be condemned if blacks did it to themselves. The hypocrisy and dishonesty is what pisses me off, to the utmost.
 
tekkychick said:
Voted4Reagan, I agree the Irish were discriminated against, particularly in the late 1800s and early 1900s. So were the Chinese. So were the people from Poland, Italy, etc. Our melting pot took awhile to melt everyone together.

Feel free to open a new thread to discuss that. But be careful not to confuse "Irish" with "Catholic". Seen any atheist presidents yet either? um, nope. At least you got one. and a vice president.

But when you walk down the street today, do people move to the other side because you're Irish? No - because you are "white".

This thread is about how black people, due to the color of their skin, regardless of nationality, have been judged, lynched, killed by white people.

I won't make excuses for the Democrats of the civil war era and for the next 100 years ...its history
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So if you want to air your woes, please feel free to do so. But please keep it out of this thread. If you do it in this thread, you won't get a very warm reception.

And certainly, the ongoing bias in our country against whoever the newest immigrant is may be worth discussing; right now it's the hispanic people we're beating up on as the newest arrivals.

But that is different from what has gone on with black people. And this thread is about how black people, due to the color of their skin, regardless of nationality, have been judged, lynched, killed by white people.
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"There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved. . . .Jesse Jackson

"If its the truth, it ain't racist".....Poet
 
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NOVA said:
"There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved. . . .Jesse Jackson

"If its the truth, it ain't racist".....Poet
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BS...You took his words completely out of context, if not misquoted him. Racist POS.

And how dare you quote me, as if I condone your rhetoric and/or stance. Lowlife.
 
This is what happens when people try to rewrite real history.

They set up roadblocks to all mankind.

please you right wing people stop and think a second.


use some empathy.


accept the reality of what our forefathers and even fathers did.


We don't have to defend it.


In Fact we are set here on this earth to reject the failings of the past and MAKE it a better world.


This is a major failing of mankind.

we are trying real hard to correct it.


Please quit lying in the middle of the road screaming " but I cant handle a better world and I want you to run me over".


We really don't want to run you over we want you to take your seat on the bus and come with us.


we wont even make you sit in the back.
 
Thing1 said:
Really?

You'd prefer to just be able to come to the board & be able to lecture everyone about the history of civil rights, without any countering opinion or dissent?

Not really my cup of tea, but to each his own.
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Feel free to wallow in your own perspective. I've not said once that you couldn't.

But did you really expect that you could just spout unfounded perspective about black history without the challenge of actual black people? Is that what you think is fair or even honest?

Darla was right ... what do you know about being a woman?

Answer, the same thing you know about being black. Nothing.

Given that undeniable truth, and the fact that I know nothing about being a woman either, I quite often listen to the perspectives that bear more weight than those just casually passing by.

Your claim that comparing this to the murder of Emmett Till determines that you don't know much about Emmett Till, don't know much about our history.

If you'd like to challenge any of that, I welcome it.
 
NOVA said:
Some time ago you told me, "If its true, it ain't racist".....do you still adhere to those words ?
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Don't ask me any fucking questions. If you mind is too small to comprehend plain English, don't ask me for clarification.
 
poet said:
Lies and sissy chatter. All "white people" can escape discrimination, given time. Race is used by some whites to justify their mistreatment of non-whites. Pure and simple. Sad thing is I've noticed on several political debate forums, when the subjects of race and racism come up, how the conversation turns to what blacks did to other blacks, "allegedly" selling their own into slavery, and the topic of whites selling whites into slavery never comes up. As if, how can whites be condemned if blacks did it to themselves. The hypocrisy and dishonesty is what pisses me off, to the utmost.
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Again so precise, to the point.
I am so glad you chose to bless us with your presence, especially in these, the worst of days.
 
I go back to the reactions of some of the white males on this forum, who have been so vocal about police brutality in some cases; who have said they need their guns to overthrow a govt that oppresses them.

But when it comes to a black youth getting shot by a member of the Neighborhood Watch, when it comes to a police dept that sat on their hands and let the shooter walk away - they are suddenly all for the police force and for the NW guy. And when it is suggested that black people might want to use guns against a govt that is oppressing THEM, these same white guys call foul, that of course the black people shouldn't use violence.

Thank goodness everyone isn't like these short-sighted troglodytes. I wish they would understand that a society that embraces everyone is a better society. That it doesn't take anything away from them to treat black people fairly.

I do have hopes though that the younger generation is less racist, more accepting. I hope our country becomes the country it should be, over time and with a lot of hard work.
 
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