another unlawful arrest that will go unpunished

even though it resulted in the death of the arrested person.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts...ke-results-in-1-million-settlement-by/2130278

The Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office and the private company that provides medical care to county prisoners paid $1 million in a wrongful-death settlement this year to the children of a Tampa man who spent approximately 36 hours in jail without treatment while suffering a fatal stroke.

Allen Daniel Hicks Sr., 51, was found stopped in his car on the side of Interstate 275 by a sheriff's deputy and a Florida Highway Patrol trooper the morning of May 11, 2012. Passers-by had called 911 after they saw Hicks' Chevy Cavalier swerving west into a guardrail, records of the incident show.

Speaking incoherently and unable to move his left arm, Hicks was arrested on a charge of obstructing a law enforcement officer when he did not respond to commands to exit his car. Just after noon, he was booked into the Orient Road Jail.

Hicks did not receive a medical screening, but was put in a cell where he lay facedown on the floor or tried to crawl using the one working side of his body. On the night of May 12, soaked in his own urine, his brain choked of blood, he was at last taken to Tampa General Hospital and diagnosed with an ischemic stroke. He slipped into a coma and died within three months.
 
even though it resulted in the death of the arrested person.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts...ke-results-in-1-million-settlement-by/2130278

The Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office and the private company that provides medical care to county prisoners paid $1 million in a wrongful-death settlement this year to the children of a Tampa man who spent approximately 36 hours in jail without treatment while suffering a fatal stroke.

Allen Daniel Hicks Sr., 51, was found stopped in his car on the side of Interstate 275 by a sheriff's deputy and a Florida Highway Patrol trooper the morning of May 11, 2012. Passers-by had called 911 after they saw Hicks' Chevy Cavalier swerving west into a guardrail, records of the incident show.

Speaking incoherently and unable to move his left arm, Hicks was arrested on a charge of obstructing a law enforcement officer when he did not respond to commands to exit his car. Just after noon, he was booked into the Orient Road Jail.

Hicks did not receive a medical screening, but was put in a cell where he lay facedown on the floor or tried to crawl using the one working side of his body. On the night of May 12, soaked in his own urine, his brain choked of blood, he was at last taken to Tampa General Hospital and diagnosed with an ischemic stroke. He slipped into a coma and died within three months.
Isn't this the wrong argument? I mean I know you only make one argument but this definitely sounds like a healthcare argument waiting to go somewhere.
 
Isn't this the wrong argument? I mean I know you only make one argument but this definitely sounds like a healthcare argument waiting to go somewhere.
how is it the wrong argument? that someone was arrested because he was incapable of following orders from a police officer? then left in a cell to die cold and alone?
 
how is it the wrong argument? that someone was arrested because he was incapable of following orders from a police officer? then left in a cell to die cold and alone?
First, police confronted with somebody acting in an unusual way will assume drugs or alcohol because that's what they deal with most of the time and they're not trained medical personnel. Then it says he did get taken to the hospital where he died, so obviously he wasn't so alone that nobody noticed his problem.

Now lets look at the healthcare argument that this man who was unable to communicate clearly was obviously not getting help he needed.
 
First, police confronted with somebody acting in an unusual way will assume drugs or alcohol because that's what they deal with most of the time and they're not trained medical personnel. Then it says he did get taken to the hospital where he died, so obviously he wasn't so alone that nobody noticed his problem.

Now lets look at the healthcare argument that this man who was unable to communicate clearly was obviously not getting help he needed.
well, nobody ever said that common sense was a requirement to be a police officer, so you win.
 
So why didn't they call EMS then and determine it for certain?

That is what good LE officers do, which why these bad ones are now settling with the family.

If an assumed drunk cannot follow basic orders given by a police officer such as 'get out of car, with hands in front...' they need to be evaluated by medical persons. Strokes can happen while driving.

Anyone who's been around a person having a stroke realizes how confusing their behavior and speech may be.

My mom had her first stroke in a restaurant we went for Mother's Day. On the ride there, during the 1/2 hour waiting period she was fine, talking current events, keeping the kids amused. At first with ordering from menu, no problem. Suddenly out of no where she spoke of ordering orchids or lily of the the valley and then swearing. For a few moments, seemed alright, then started talking to my brother as if he were her brother, dead over 50 years. That's when we gave her an aspirin and called the paramedics.

Now my brother was a police officer, my SIL a nurse. It still took nearly 5 minutes to realize what was happening. 5 minutes, not throw her in jail or an insane asylum. Police are there to 'protect and serve.' Protect from those under the influence and serve those, amongst others, that need medical care.
 
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