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By modern standards, Sherman was a fucking saint. He never directly massacred civilians, like we did in WWII, he merely tore up infrastructure. We would've called that "precision targeting" in WWII.
Florida school board votes to remove name of Confederate general
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LOL, the way she worded it, I thought she meant the AFL/CIO.
christiefan915
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Who used them both to achieve great things. He also kept his troops safer from harm than all of the other major American generals (except perhaps the buffoon McClellan, although Antietam was the bloodiest battle of the war).
Both President Lincoln and General Ulysses S. Grant had serious reservations about Sherman's plans. And here you are, Mr. Pro-Life himself, condoning Sherman's scorched earth policy. What about all the innocent people who died?
Justify this, 3D:
"The March to the Sea was devastating to Georgia and the Confederacy. Sherman himself estimated that the campaign had inflicted $100 million (about $1.4 billion in 2010 dollars)[SUP][17][/SUP] in destruction, about one fifth of which "inured to our advantage" while the "remainder is simple waste and destruction."[SUP][16][/SUP] The Army wrecked 300 miles (480 km) of railroad and numerous bridges and miles of telegraph lines. It seized 5,000 horses, 4,000 mules, and 13,000 head of cattle. It confiscated 9.5 million pounds of corn and 10.5 million pounds of fodder, and destroyed uncounted cotton gins and mills.[SUP][18][/SUP] Military historians Herman Hattaway and Archer Jones cited the significant damage wrought to railroads and Southern logistics in the campaign and stated that "Sherman's raid succeeded in 'knocking the Confederate war effort to pieces'."[SUP][19][/SUP] David J. Eicher wrote that "Sherman had accomplished an amazing task. He had defied military principles by operating deep within enemy territory and without lines of supply or communication. He destroyed much of the South's potential and psychology to wage war."[SUP][1][/SUP]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman's_March_to_the_Sea
christiefan915
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What's the matter Watermark? Drunk? Out of Adderall?
Minister of Truth
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Christie, if the choice is between dead Georgians or another generation or four of slaves, what would you prefer? Do you think we should have just let the South secede, commit acts of war against us, and just get away with it all?
christiefan915
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I think the whole thing was a clusterfuck and all the talk about treason, secession etc. is simply justification for mass murder.
"The Civil War was a contest marked by the ferocity and frequency of battle. Over four years, 237 named battles were fought, and many more minor actions and skirmishes. In the scales of world military history, both sides fighting were characterized by their bitter intensity and high casualties. "The American Civil War was to prove one of the most ferocious wars ever fought". Without geographic objectives, the only target for each side was the enemy's soldier.[SUP][121][/SUP]
Do you defend Lincoln's suspension of habeas corpus? His civil liberties violations?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War#cite_note-121
christiefan915
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I think white Americans denied black Americans a few basic rights and there's no "might have" about it.
White Americans who were overwhelmingly Democrats?
Say it, Christie:
The Confederacy was founded and the Civil War was started by Democrats.
Repeat as necessary.
christiefan915
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I thought the confederacy was founded and the Civil War was started by southerners. Who knew those southerners were all Dems?
Having problems answering my questions about Lincoln?
Who said they were all Dems?
The fact is that anyone with access to Google knows they were predominantly Dem...
Here, let me help you:
After the election of Abraham Lincoln, Southern Democrats led the charge to secede from the Union and form the Confederate States of America.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats
Having problems answering my questions about Lincoln?[/QUOTE]
Minister of Truth
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Neither the secession nor the treason (nor even the pathetic culture) were the ultimate justifications for the war, Christie. Lincoln knew Americans didn't want war with the South, and he wouldn't have gotten their support at any time during his presidency. In fact, his re-election would have been dependent upon his efforts to negotiate the South back into union with America. What happened was typical Southern stupidity - they fired the first shots of the war by attacking Fort Sumter. 100% of the blame falls on the CSA.
christiefan915
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Does this mean you agree N. B. Forrest shouldn't have anything named after himself?
I'll never stop criticizing what both sides did to this country for whatever pathetic reason.