This is why more cops should be killed

Yes, I know it's hard to bear my laughter ringing in your ears.

It's also affecting your ability (if you ever had it) to read.

Put up or shut up. :D

It looks like your cough isn't as bad, at the moment.
Did you seek professional help, or are you self medicating?
 
and another reason why they should be killed for their outright lies to their state bosses concerning forfeiture laws.

http://www.newschannel5.com/story/24027295/task-force-head-claims-terrorism-behind-160000-seizure

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- There was stunning testimony Wednesday before a state Senate committee as a local drug task force found itself facing tough questions.

The director of the 23rd Judicial District Drug Task Force responded to those questions -- about whether his agency was "policing for profit" -- with new claims that agents are really taking money out of the hands of terrorists.

While there's absolutely no evidence that the terrorism claim is true, the task force director ended up inadvertently conceding that interstate interdiction units do indeed have a profit motive.

"You said if the money is not there they could potentially lose their jobs or they could potentially lose those bonuses," observed Sen. Stacey Campfield, R-Knoxville, toward the end of the hearing.

As the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee opened hearings on Tennessee's drug task forces, the spotlight quickly focused on the 23rd, which operates along I-40 in Dickson County.

Senators especially wanted to know about a traffic stop exposed by NewsChannel 5 Investigates where an agent from the 23rd took $160,000 from a New York businessman, using federal seizure laws, even though the officer admitted on the video there was no evidence tying it to drug trafficking.

"I don't know honestly if we can, if we can't link it to drugs, it's still a currency violation," he told a fellow officer.

Bell read that quote to Hicks.

"I would prefer to listen to the video than I had the media report, just to be honest with you," Hicks responded.

The drug task force director not only questioned whether the officer really made that statement, but then he then dropped what sounded like a bomb shell.

"I can tell you that money had terrorist ties overseas -- I will tell you that," he told the subcommittee.

"Then why was it returned to him?" asked Sen. Brian Kelsey, a Germantown Republican who chairs the full Senate Judiciary Committee.

"The DEA returned it to them -- we didn't," Hicks said.

In fact, our investigation discovered that the U.S. Attorney's Office returned the man's cash more than a year later after investigators could not make any kind of a case.

"When they were pressed on it when there was a case pending in federal court, when it was put-up-or-shut-up time, they couldn't produce a single shred of evidence to support these allegations," said the businessman's attorney, Olin J. Baker of Charlotte.

"At this point, they are making things up that's absolutely not true."

The attorney argued that agents from the 23rd are just trying to keep lawmakers from taking away their ability to seize cash from drivers -- because that's how they get paid.

In fact, Hicks conceded to lawmakers that "they know that if the money dries up, then they don't have job."

And it's that profit motive that now has lawmakers questioning whether those task forces need some tighter controls.
 
and another reason why they should be killed for their outright lies to their state bosses concerning forfeiture laws.

http://www.newschannel5.com/story/24027295/task-force-head-claims-terrorism-behind-160000-seizure

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- There was stunning testimony Wednesday before a state Senate committee as a local drug task force found itself facing tough questions.

The director of the 23rd Judicial District Drug Task Force responded to those questions -- about whether his agency was "policing for profit" -- with new claims that agents are really taking money out of the hands of terrorists.

While there's absolutely no evidence that the terrorism claim is true, the task force director ended up inadvertently conceding that interstate interdiction units do indeed have a profit motive.

"You said if the money is not there they could potentially lose their jobs or they could potentially lose those bonuses," observed Sen. Stacey Campfield, R-Knoxville, toward the end of the hearing.

As the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee opened hearings on Tennessee's drug task forces, the spotlight quickly focused on the 23rd, which operates along I-40 in Dickson County.

Senators especially wanted to know about a traffic stop exposed by NewsChannel 5 Investigates where an agent from the 23rd took $160,000 from a New York businessman, using federal seizure laws, even though the officer admitted on the video there was no evidence tying it to drug trafficking.

"I don't know honestly if we can, if we can't link it to drugs, it's still a currency violation," he told a fellow officer.

Bell read that quote to Hicks.

"I would prefer to listen to the video than I had the media report, just to be honest with you," Hicks responded.

The drug task force director not only questioned whether the officer really made that statement, but then he then dropped what sounded like a bomb shell.

"I can tell you that money had terrorist ties overseas -- I will tell you that," he told the subcommittee.

"Then why was it returned to him?" asked Sen. Brian Kelsey, a Germantown Republican who chairs the full Senate Judiciary Committee.

"The DEA returned it to them -- we didn't," Hicks said.

In fact, our investigation discovered that the U.S. Attorney's Office returned the man's cash more than a year later after investigators could not make any kind of a case.

"When they were pressed on it when there was a case pending in federal court, when it was put-up-or-shut-up time, they couldn't produce a single shred of evidence to support these allegations," said the businessman's attorney, Olin J. Baker of Charlotte.

"At this point, they are making things up that's absolutely not true."

The attorney argued that agents from the 23rd are just trying to keep lawmakers from taking away their ability to seize cash from drivers -- because that's how they get paid.

In fact, Hicks conceded to lawmakers that "they know that if the money dries up, then they don't have job."

And it's that profit motive that now has lawmakers questioning whether those task forces need some tighter controls.


:thisisgettinggood:
 
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/11/21/3769823/in-miami-gardens-store-video-catches.html

Earl Sampson has been stopped and questioned by Miami Gardens police 258 times in four years.

He’s been searched more than 100 times. And arrested and jailed 56 times.

Despite his long rap sheet, Sampson, 28, has never been convicted of anything more serious than possession of marijuana.

Miami Gardens police have arrested Sampson 62 times for one offense: trespassing.

Almost every citation was issued at the same place: the 207 Quickstop, a convenience store on 207th Street in Miami Gardens.

But Sampson isn’t loitering. He works as a clerk at the Quickstop.

So how can he be trespassing when he works there?

It’s a question the store’s owner, Alex Saleh, 36, has been asking for more than a year as he watched Sampson, his other employees and his customers, day after day, being stopped and frisked by Miami Gardens police. Most of them, like Sampson, are poor and black.

And, like Sampson, many of them have been cited for minor infractions, sometimes as often as three times in the same day.

Saleh was so troubled by what he saw that he decided to install video cameras in his store. Not to protect himself from criminals, because he says he has never been robbed. He installed the cameras — 15 of them — he said, to protect him and his customers from police.

Since he installed the cameras in June 2012 he has collected more than two dozen videos, some of which have been obtained by the Miami Herald. Those tapes, and Sampson’s 38-page criminal history — including charges never even pursued by prosecutors — raise some troubling questions about the conduct of the city’s police officers.

The videos show, among other things, cops stopping citizens, questioning them, aggressively searching them and arresting them for trespassing when they have permission to be on the premises; officers conducting searches of Saleh’s business without search warrants or permission; using what appears to be excessive force on subjects who are clearly not resisting arrest and filing inaccurate police reports in connection with the arrests.

“There is just no justifying this kind of behavior,’’ said Chuck Drago, a former police officer and consultant on police policy and the use of force. “Nobody can justify overstepping the constitution to fight crime.”

Repeated phone messages and emails to Miami Gardens Police Chief Matthew Boyd and City Manager Cameron Benson asking for comment on this story were not returned.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/11/...ardens-store-video-catches.html#storylink=cpy
 
Saleh, whose store is tucked between a public park and working-class neighborhoods, contends that Miami Gardens police officers have repeatedly used racial slurs to refer to his customers and treat most of them like they are hardened criminals.

“Police line them up and tell them to put their hands against the wall. I started asking myself ‘Is this normal?’ I just kept thinking police can’t do this,’’ Saleh said.

Last year, Saleh, armed with a cache of videos, filed an internal affairs complaint about the arrests at his store. From that point, he said, police officers became even more aggressive.

One evening, shortly after he had complained a second time, a squadron of six uniformed Miami Gardens police officers marched into the store, he says. They lined up, shoulder to shoulder, their arms crossed in front of them, blocking two grocery aisles.

“Can I help you?” Saleh recalls asking. It was an entire police detail, known as the department’s Rapid Action Deployment (RAD) squad, whom he had come to know from their frequent arrest sweeps. One went to use the restroom, and five of them stood silently for a full 10 minutes. Then they all marched out.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/11/...ardens-store-video-catches.html#storylink=cpy
 
Yes, I know it's hard to bear my laughter ringing in your ears.

It's also affecting your ability (if you ever had it) to read.

Put up or shut up. :D

It's obvious usfreedumb didn't do college

I know....not the brightest.

He keeps reposting where I asked him to 'put up or shut up' ....he's helping me humiliate him further and doesnt even realize it.

lmao
 
Yes, I know it's hard to bear my laughter ringing in your ears.

It's also affecting your ability (if you ever had it) to read.

Put up or shut up. :D

It looks like your cough isn't as bad, at the moment.
Did you seek professional help, or are you self medicating?

So sweet that now you've invented a condition for me after inventing a new interpretation for lololololololololololol. You have a rich fantasy life, that's nice.

Care to stop avoiding your latest screw up and "put up or shut up" re: where I lied in this thread? (Guess you invented that too)

No? That's ok, you'll invent a further fantasy to try and distract from it. And your humiliation will continue :D
 
I know....not the brightest.

He keeps reposting where I asked him to 'put up or shut up' ....he's helping me humiliate him further and doesnt even realize it.

lmao

Please stop, I beg of you.
At least make an attempt to save what shreds of dignity, you may have left.
 
So sweet that now you've invented a condition for me after inventing a new interpretation for lololololololololololol. You have a rich fantasy life, that's nice.

Care to stop avoiding your latest screw up and "put up or shut up" re: where I lied in this thread? (Guess you invented that too)

No? That's ok, you'll invent a further fantasy to try and distract from it. And your humiliation will continue :D

I forgot to ask earlier.
What was that hose attached to??
 
I forgot to ask earlier.
What was that hose attached to??

Why, it was attached to STY's post! lolololololololololololololololololol


Ah, this never gets old. I still have my dignity....esp. since you cant show where I lied. Or can you?

Put up or shut up!

(It's obvious you cant, or you would....so the humiliation continues. lololololololololololololololololol....oopsie, I sneezed...will you say God Bless You? ROFLMAO)

Next time you claim someone lied, maybe you'll think twice before doing so.

USF1 credibility: zero
 
Why, it was attached to STY's post! lolololololololololololololololololol


Ah, this never gets old. I still have my dignity....esp. since you cant show where I lied. Or can you?

Put up or shut up!

(It's obvious you cant, or you would....so the humiliation continues. lololololololololololololololololol....oopsie, I sneezed...will you say God Bless You? ROFLMAO)

Next time you claim someone lied, maybe you'll think twice before doing so.

USF1 credibility: zero

Why was this thread resurrected?

And the cops were wrong, from what I read.

No matter if you are a cop or a regular citizen, you ALWAYS identify the threat before shooting.

They couldnt see the hose? THey were focused on what 'was reported' and the guy's hand. They couldnt objectively assess the situation...and that IS part of their training.

Where was that hose again?
 
Where was that hose again?

:chesh:

If you are incapable of understanding my previous post, please just say so.

Now....where was the lie?

Put up or shut up.

LMAO...you can see where this is going, right? Continual humiliation for you until you either prove your point or walk away (I'd say walk away with what dignity you have left but that ship has SAILED!)
 
If you are incapable of understanding my previous post, please just say so.

Now....where was the lie?

Put up or shut up.

LMAO...you can see where this is going, right? Continual humiliation for you until you either prove your point or walk away (I'd say walk away with what dignity you have left but that ship has SAILED!)

Where was that hose again? :)
 
Where was that hose again? :)


Why, it was attached to STY's post! lolololololololololololololololololol


Ah, this never gets old. I still have my dignity....esp. since you cant show where I lied. Or can you?

Put up or shut up!

(It's obvious you cant, or you would....so the humiliation continues. lololololololololololololololololol....oopsie, I sneezed...will you say God Bless You? ROFLMAO)

Next time you claim someone lied, maybe you'll think twice before doing so.

USF1 credibility: zero

Maybe your eyes are failing, let's see if your brain still works, even as weakly as usual you should be able to figure this out.
 
Maybe your eyes are failing, let's see if your brain still works, even as weakly as usual you should be able to figure this out.

Since this started as a discussion, involving a water nozzle being held as one would a weapon; where was that hose again?
 
Since this started as a discussion, involving a water nozzle being held as one would a weapon; where was that hose again?

In a post by SYG.....now, where did I lie again?

Put up or shut up. (most men are embarrassed when they get that challenge. You seem to enjoy it...you receive it so much)
 
In a post by SYG.....now, where did I lie again?

Put up or shut up. (most men are embarrassed when they get that challenge. You seem to enjoy it...you receive it so much)

So your entire defense is that you based your comment on what someone else said and therefore have no responsibility for any of your assumptions?

Why was this thread resurrected?

And the cops were wrong, from what I read.

No matter if you are a cop or a regular citizen, you ALWAYS identify the threat before shooting.

They couldnt see the hose? THey were focused on what 'was reported' and the guy's hand. They couldnt objectively assess the situation...and that IS part of their training.

Now, where was that hose?
 
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