PEANUT BUTTER AND JELLY SANDWICH IS RACIST, SAYS PORTLAND SCHOOL OFFICIAL

AssHatZombie said:
I think the manufactured outrage is from people who have a problem with peanut butter and jelly being discussed around brown people.
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The only people who have that problem are those trying to gin up a controversy here.

A teacher used an object recognized by many Americans to show how something so familiar to so many can still be unfamiliar to many pockets of foreign culture right here in America.

Angry white men latched onto this as another excuse to whine about their growing impotence.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
The only people who have that problem are those trying to gin up a controversy here.

A teacher used an object recognized by many Americans to show how something so familiar to so many can still be unfamiliar to many pockets of foreign culture right here in America.

Angry white men latched onto this as another excuse to whine about their growing impotence.
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Yes, nothing says white privilege like a PB&J. Of course laughing at that makes one 'an angry white man' Sure thing. You let me know how it works for the kids in the school.
 
cawacko said:
Yes, nothing says white privilege like a PB&J. Of course laughing at that makes one 'an angry white man' Sure thing. You let me know how it works for the kids in the school.
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Where did I say that?

You keep making these ridiculous allegations and not a one of them has been backed up yet.

Maybe if more people were laughing about this it wouldn't be the big deal some are trying to turn it into.

Was Soc laughing when he created the thread and it's totally false, misleading headline?

None of you angry Righties seem to be laughing...the only people laughing are Liberals like myself who find your petty need to denigrate others merely to boost your own self esteem to be positively hysterical.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Where did I say that?

You keep making these ridiculous allegations and not a one of them has been backed up yet.

Maybe if more people were laughing about this it wouldn't be the big deal some are trying to turn it into.

Was Soc laughing when he created the thread and it's totally false, misleading headline?

None of you angry Righties seem to be laughing...the only people laughing are Liberals like myself who find your petty need to denigrate others merely to boost your own self esteem to be positively hysterical.
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It's in the article dude. It's the whole premise of the discussion. Good to see you stick to your talking point 'angry righties' though.
 
Cawacko your reasonably financially astute!
If you were a teacher being paid based on student grades,
You wouldn't be using the p&j analogy to a highly Asian/Mexican American class.
 
It's an isolated incident. Meanwhile, social conservatives have been involved in orchestrated effort to put creationism back into the classroom.
 
The Dude said:
Cawacko your reasonably financially astute!
If you were a teacher being paid based on student grades,
You wouldn't be using the p&j analogy to a highly Asian/Mexican American class.
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Are you familiar with the 1970's sitcom What's Happening? It had Rohge, Dwayne and Re-run as the three main characters. All three were black kids living in a lower middle class neighborhood. Rhoge's little sister Dee was always eating peanut butter and getting her mouth stuck closed because she ate too much.

To me PB&J is ubiquitous for someone from the U.S. because it is so cheap. It crosses racial boundaries. As I'm sure your sister can attest to there are Asians in San Francisco who have spent either their whole/or most of their lives here who can't speak English and to someone like that I understand how PB&J may be a foreign concept.

This is getting a little off topic here but this also open's a Pandora's Box as to what food is appropriate to associate with each ethnicity. The Mexican food I eat most is a burrito. But if a teacher replaces a PB&J in class by saying burrito are they now stereotyping?

Of the areas that need to be focused on to improve our schooling I'm just not seeing how this is even close to the top of the list.
 
cawacko said:
It's in the article dude. It's the whole premise of the discussion. Good to see you stick to your talking point 'angry righties' though.
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No, the premise of the discussion was that not everyone eats sandwiches like white folk do and how angry white folk managed to turn that innocuous comment into an attack on white America.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
No, the premise of the discussion was that not everyone eats sandwiches like white folk do and how angry white folk managed to turn that innocuous comment into an attack on white America.
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LOL, yeah because other races don't eat sandwiches.
 
From the article ...

…The Tribune noted that the school started the new year with “intensive staff trainings, frequent staff meetings, classroom observations and other initiatives,” to help educators understand their own “white privilege,” in order to “change their teaching practices to boost minority students’ performance.”"Last Wednesday, the first day of the school year for staff, for example, the first item of business for teachers at Scott School was to have a Courageous Conversation — to examine a news article and discuss the ‘white privilege’ it conveys,” the Tribune added.
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The first time something like this came down the pike I would be seeking employment elsewhere. There are simply too many things wrong with our educational system and good teachers are subject to enough "extra" stuff with no extra pay to have to waste their time on something like this. Stuff like this is beurocratic nonsense.

Maybe my disgust is for a different reason than the OP implies, but everytime I read the article (and this is the third time) I am disgusted.
 
leaningright said:
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The first time something like this came down the pike I would be seeking employment elsewhere. There are simply too many things wrong with our educational system and good teachers are subject to enough "extra" stuff with no extra pay to have to waste their time on something like this. Stuff like this is beurocratic nonsense.

Maybe my disgust is for a different reason than the OP implies, but everytime I read the article (and this is the third time) I am disgusted.
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lr, you reminded me of one our best family friends growing up. The woman was a public high school teacher at an East Bay high school (Bay Area) which was very ethnically diverse and the students came from mostly middle to lower middle class families. She was a white woman and was politically liberal. However she used to tell us these stories of the sensitivity training classes and bureaucratic nonsense she had to go through and we would just shake our heads. I remember her saying how much she loved teaching and helping kids but all the political b.s. made her want to leave teaching.

I could 100% understand why you say you would look to work elsewhere to teach if you had to deal with this.

(And I'm still shaking my head at how eating a PB&J is 'privilege'.)
 
Proof this story is true....Peanut Butter & Jelly is racist.

Photo taken in Sanford, Florida home of that racist Obama voter George Zimmerman.


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cawacko said:
lr, you reminded me of one our best family friends growing up. The woman was a public high school teacher at an East Bay high school (Bay Area) which was very ethnically diverse and the students came from mostly middle to lower middle class families. She was a white woman and was politically liberal. However she used to tell us these stories of the sensitivity training classes and bureaucratic nonsense she had to go through and we would just shake our heads. I remember her saying how much she loved teaching and helping kids but all the political b.s. made her want to leave teaching.

I could 100% understand why you say you would look to work elsewhere to teach if you had to deal with this.

(And I'm still shaking my head at how eating a PB&J is 'privilege'.)
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And I'm again shaking my head at the fact you are continuing to misrepresent what was said.

Who'd have thought that it is too difficult for some to understand that NOT EVERYONE eats sandwiches...it's not a "privelege" if you do, but not everyone eats the same foods.
 
I think I figured out why there was so much confusion here. The article Soc linked to in the OP spoke about the original article in the Portland Tribune (which Sun Devil linked to). Here's how the Portland Tribune article started:


Verenice Gutierrez picks up on the subtle language of racism every day.

Take the peanut butter sandwich, a seemingly innocent example a teacher used in a lesson last school year.

“What about Somali or Hispanic students, who might not eat sandwiches?” says Gutierrez, principal at Harvey Scott K-8 School, a diverse school of 500 students in Northeast Portland’s Cully neighborhood.

“Another way would be to say: ‘Americans eat peanut butter and jelly, do you have anything like that?’ Let them tell you. Maybe they eat torta. Or pita.”

Guitierrez, along with all of Portland Public Schools’ principals, will start the new school year off this week by drilling in on the language of “Courageous Conversations,” the district-wide equity training being implemented in every building in phases during the past few years.

Through intensive staff trainings, frequent staff meetings, classroom observations and other initiatives, the premise is that if educators can understand their own “white privilege,” then they can change their teaching practices to boost minority students’ performance.


http://portlandtribune.com/pt/9-news/114604-schools-beat-the-drum-for-equity


So clearly they are calling the PB&J example subtle racism. That's your answer to your first post Zap. And yes they are tying the PB&J into white privilege.

It reasons to me if they have this many non-Americans at the school why don't they hire some non white teachers?
 
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