"Why I fled libertarianism — and became a liberal "

I've been here two years longer than her and five years more than you. you're making bullshit assumptions on facts not in evidence, therefore you're basically full of shit.

That is an assumption based on too little information. You have no way of knowing how long someone has been here. You may have been here longer than me, which I didn't dispute, but you have no information that could confirm that you have been here longer than Rana. None She may have been here under another name and she could have changed here name numerous times, you simply don't know when she got here all you know is when she chose that name. Just as all you know about me is when I chose this name. And it doesn't take too long to see that you are full of shit yourself, this exchange shows you are ready to make unwarranted assumptions at the drop of a hat. Don't believe what is written in that stupid little box. It only applies to the current name someone has chosen! If I change my name tomorrow I would have a new date based on that name. In short, one's name can be changed at any time and the date of joining changes as well! So who is basically full of shit? HUH?
 
Here is some FACTS for you desh, the REAL THING....then stfu and shove off...

8 Democrats Arrested and/or Convicted of Voter Fraud

http://nationwidegazette.com/8-democrats-arrested-for-voter-fraud/
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12 charged with voter fraud in Georgia election

http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/24/12-charged-with-voter-fraud-in-georgia-election/
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Democratic officials arrested for voter fraud in Indiana
Names, signatures faked in Indiana to put Obama, Clinton on primary ballot
http://video.foxnews.com/v/2498961563001/democratic-officials-arrested-for-voter-fraud-in-indiana/
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Fort Worth woman arrested in voter fraud case
By Fort Worth Star-Telegram (TX) August 22, 2013
http://www.gopusa.com/news/2013/08/22/fort-worth-woman-arrested-in-voter-fraud-case/
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7 Democrats Arrested in New York for actual Voter Fraud via Absentee Ballots
Democrats arrested, charged and 4 plead guilty to actual voter fraud in New York via absentee ballots!
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NAACP Executive Sentenced to 10 Years in Prison for Voting for Obama 10 Times in 2008
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.crafts.metalworking/B8Xe0hnJ-YI


Desh rants and raves about election cheats and makes me post this stuff and then she mysteriously disappears....

Go figure.....probably googling like the mad women she is.....

 
I'd say Rana nailed it pretty accurately, and I have read far too many of your posts and can say that with some authority. In addition, Rana has been here a lot longer than I have, indeed years longer, so I wouldn't chastise her for any failings in reading comprehension if I were you. Your comment may indeed be nothing but projection on your part and it is you who does not know her, and not the reverse. And anyone who has the moniker SmarterthanYou is already making gross and unsupported assumptions about everyone who comes here and from what I have read you have little basis for doing so!

Hmm, I saw the word "projection" in there. You must not have had anything substantive to say...
 
first, taxes are not unconstitutional, so half your statement is pure crap.

second, I break the law everyday in the name of freedom and i'm not in jail. so the other half of your statement is also pure crap. I AM different from you because I don't swallow the koolaid like you liberals and conservatives.

how do you break the law everyday, you rebel, you, lol. Do you go five mph over the speed limit? Do you jaywalk?

Lol
 
That is an assumption based on too little information. You have no way of knowing how long someone has been here. You may have been here longer than me, which I didn't dispute, but you have no information that could confirm that you have been here longer than Rana. None She may have been here under another name and she could have changed here name numerous times, you simply don't know when she got here all you know is when she chose that name. Just as all you know about me is when I chose this name. And it doesn't take too long to see that you are full of shit yourself, this exchange shows you are ready to make unwarranted assumptions at the drop of a hat. Don't believe what is written in that stupid little box. It only applies to the current name someone has chosen! If I change my name tomorrow I would have a new date based on that name. In short, one's name can be changed at any time and the date of joining changes as well! So who is basically full of shit? HUH?
that would still be you.
 
how do you break the law everyday, you rebel, you, lol. Do you go five mph over the speed limit? Do you jaywalk?

Lol

i carry a concealed handgun nearly everywhere I go, without a license. I drive everyday, without a license. that's just two examples. shall I show you how you commit three felonies a day?
 
It's a stupid article. I read it over a week ago. You don't choose your politics based on ad hominem looks at members. Grind is an ignorant prick and makes a bad argument for the second amendment or assisted suicide. That does not mean you abandon those positions.

i thanked your post at the midway point before i was done reading. fyi
 
The Republican convention didn’t turn me off of libertarians, but I started losing respect for the movement while watching the financial meltdown. Libertarians were (rightly) furious when our government bailed out the banks, but they fought hardest against help for ordinary Americans. They hated unemployment insurance and reduced school lunches. I used to say similar things, but in such a catastrophic recession isn’t the government supposed to help? Isn’t that the lesson of the Great Depression?

i.e.

"I could talk the talk but couldn't walk the walk"

This is clearly a fake libertarian.
 
Hmm, I saw the word "projection" in there. You must not have had anything substantive to say...

I don't know dismissing a whole post on the use of a single word is pretty ridiculous on its face isn't it? His comment may indeed be projection as I noted! I'm not sure how your comment is substantive please elaborate!
 
no, but that is because general traffic laws are both constitutional and necessary. the only 'laws' necessary to break or violate are the unconstitutional ones.

Really? Where in the Constitution does it say that traffic laws controlling the speed of automobiles is constitutional? And how does the state have the power to enforce traffic laws but not require you to have a license to drive a car in the first place? And how does the state have the power to take that license away for breaking those laws but not have the power to require a license? Please be as specific as you can.
 
Really where in the Constitution does it say that traffic laws controlling the speed of cars is constitutional? And how does the state have the power to enforce traffic laws but not require you to have a license to drive a car in the first place? And how does the state have the power to take that license away for breaking those laws but not have the power to require a license? Please be as specific as you can.
depending upon the state constitution (and it's necessary to understand that the constitution does not give rights, but only gives certain powers to the government) it has the power to regulate the highways. that would mean things like number of lanes, speed, tolls, etc. since we the people have the innate right to travel freely, the constitution cannot deny that right, nor can they license a right. the state cannot require a license for you to exercise a right, therefore they only have the power to take away something from you that you let them.
 
i carry a concealed handgun nearly everywhere I go, without a license. I drive everyday, without a license. that's just two examples. shall I show you how you commit three felonies a day?


One of these days your luck is going to run out and you will find yourself before a judge. I would love to hear how that session eventually turns out! Especially if she or he gives you a certain amount of time to return with a driver's license or find yourself in contempt of court! I bet you will find a constitutional justification for getting that license soon enough!
 
One of these days your luck is going to run out and you will find yourself before a judge. I would love to hear how that session eventually turns out! Especially if she or he gives you a certain amount of time to return with a driver's license or find yourself in contempt of court!

If he gets into an accident he's going to be in big trouble. he can claim he'll shoot his way out of it but I don't like his odds.

if he kills someone in an accident and has no driver's license the boy is going away.

I love how he acts as if he's somehow "showing us' by doing these things. Like I give a shit when he ends up in jail or dead by a cop's bullet. I just find it so entertaining personally.
 
One of these days your luck is going to run out and you will find yourself before a judge. I would love to hear how that session eventually turns out! Especially if she or he gives you a certain amount of time to return with a driver's license or find yourself in contempt of court!

the judge can rule according to the constitution or he can be a tyrant. any attempt to force me to serve time makes me a political prisoner and i will fight that with lethal force.
 
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