What Phil Robertson DID do

PostmodernProphet said:
given that it was the Obama administration that passed the ACA and not insurance companies, obviously......
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It WASN'T the Obama Administration that changed those policies so they would no longer conform to the guidelines agreed upon, when it was decided people would be able to keep their grandfathered policies.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
It WASN'T the Obama Administration that changed those policies so they would no longer conform to the guidelines agreed upon, when it was decided people would be able to keep their grandfathered policies.
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It was the Administration that understood that the "guidelines" were specifically written to force people onto the exchanges.

Basically it would be like adding "If you do not age one more second after the moment this law passes, you will not have to buy insurance" then having the President himself saying over 30 times that "Nobody will be forced to buy insurance. Period!" knowing that nobody would ever be able to claim the "Grandfather clause". The clause may be there, but it really meant nothing at all and the Administration knew that.
 
Ishmael Pequod said:
The policies were changed to be in compliance with the ACA. Stop your lying.
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Wrong again.

Under the ACA, a grandfathered plan can lose its status if out-of-pocket costs increase above the rate of medical inflation plus 15 percent, co-insurance rates increase, annual benefit limits decrease, employer contributions decrease by more than 5 percent, or the plan eliminates coverage for a previously covered condition.

With the exception of those provisions, designed to protect consumers, a grandfathered plan could continue to be available to policyholders as long as the insurance company chose to offer it.

Surprise...insurance companies raised people's out of pocket costs, lowered their benefits limits and eliminated coverage for previously covered conditions...allowing them to cancel people's insurance despite Obama's claim.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Wrong again.

Under the ACA, a grandfathered plan can lose its status if out-of-pocket costs increase above the rate of medical inflation plus 15 percent, co-insurance rates increase, annual benefit limits decrease, employer contributions decrease by more than 5 percent, or the plan eliminates coverage for a previously covered condition.

With the exception of those provisions, designed to protect consumers, a grandfathered plan could continue to be available to policyholders as long as the insurance company chose to offer it.

Surprise...insurance companies raised people's out of pocket costs, lowered their benefits limits and eliminated coverage for previously covered conditions...allowing them to cancel people's insurance despite Obama's claim.
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You lie. Show the link. You still haven't addressed the fact the ACA added regulations that raised cost that led to cancellation. You're a liar.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
It WASN'T the Obama Administration that changed those policies so they would no longer conform to the guidelines agreed upon, when it was decided people would be able to keep their grandfathered policies.
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????....it was the Obama administration who made the guidelines that my policy didn't conform to.....nothing in it was changed to make it not conform.....
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Wrong again.

Under the ACA, a grandfathered plan can lose its status if out-of-pocket costs increase above the rate of medical inflation plus 15 percent, co-insurance rates increase, annual benefit limits decrease, employer contributions decrease by more than 5 percent, or the plan eliminates coverage for a previously covered condition.

With the exception of those provisions, designed to protect consumers, a grandfathered plan could continue to be available to policyholders as long as the insurance company chose to offer it.

Surprise...insurance companies raised people's out of pocket costs, lowered their benefits limits and eliminated coverage for previously covered conditions...allowing them to cancel people's insurance despite Obama's claim.
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lol....what a load of bullshit.....did some Obamabot overlay a program on your brain that makes you recite absurdities?.....my policy didn't have coverage for maternity benefits or children's dental.....it was cancelled....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
just in noticing it is attempting to prove something is true when it so obviously isn't.....if you presented me with a "scholarly" paper in which someone tried to convince us that Pluto orbited the sun closer than the earth does I wouldn't need to read it to judge its credibility either.....
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so your scholarly interpretation outweighs all others. I'll bet you the learned Catholic astronomer who preceded Copernicus and postulated that the sun revolved around the earth was just as big of a pompous prick as you are.
 
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