Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Show me one supernatural claim that is falsifiable in principle.
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Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
agreed.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
That's spurious epistemology. Is it a supernatural claim or is it an incorrect natural one?
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We are talking past each other here. The Claim of a global flood or Adam and eve as he first two humans in the time frame of bishop ushers chronology....falsifiable.
That Zeus kept my wife from getting into a motorcycle accident.....utterly unfalsifiable.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
too funny......stang "thanked" Higga Digga for saying my post was wrong, then "thanked" Mott for saying I was right......
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
does that make the Bible or Ussher's chronology falsifiable?.......
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If one interpets it literally, yes. There was no global flood.
It has already been tried and accomplished. I have given examples.
Nothing can be proven beyond all imaginable doubt. That is not only limited to supernatural claims. But for all intents and purposes supernatural claims, which are falsifiable, can and have been proven false.
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Yes. That the chicken I just ate was delicious.
Science is a self limiting epistemology as it only aquires knowledge by empirical observation and experimentation of the natural (or real) world.
And what else is there?
I already have. Refer to the examples I have given. The flood, claims about the age of the earth, claims of people like Uri Geller, claims of the power of Oral Roberts to heal through some supernatural cause, etc..
It is a supernatural claim. They did not incorrectly claim a natural cause.
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Pretty much methodologial vs. metaphysical naturalism. We can check out claims that are essentially bullshit....such as "the Brooklyn bridge is made of chocalte chip cookie dough." We can prove it is not made of cookie dough.
If someone brings us a sacred text that says that Zeus made the Brooklyn bridge out of choclate chip cookie dough, then all we can falsify is the claim about the bridge and the dough. We can say nothing about the non reality or the reality of Zeus, given scientific methodology. Or about him making a bridge on the palnet Bula Bula out of chocolate chip cookie dough.
The concepts here are not difficult, not sure why seemingly intelligent people are tripping over semantics. And yes, Science has falsified a number of biblical claims were one to take the bible literally.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
didn't need a global flood.....just needed enough water to drown the humans running around.....
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
are all the verses of the Bible to be taken literally?......
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
one really ugly woman....
How beautiful you are, my darling!
Oh, how beautiful!
Your eyes behind your veil are doves.
Your hair is like a flock of goats
descending from the hills of Gilead.
2 Your teeth are like a flock of sheep just shorn,
coming up from the washing.
Each has its twin;
not one of them is alone.
3 Your lips are like a scarlet ribbon;
your mouth is lovely.
Your temples behind your veil
are like the halves of a pomegranate.
4 Your neck is like the tower of David,
built with courses of stone[a];
on it hang a thousand shields,
all of them shields of warriors.
5 Your breasts are like two fawns,
like twin fawns of a gazelle
that browse among the lilies.
6 Until the day breaks
and the shadows flee,
I will go to the mountain of myrrh
and to the hill of incense.
How beautiful you are, my darling!
Oh, how beautiful!
Your eyes behind your veil are doves.
Your hair is like a flock of goats
descending from the hills of Gilead.
2 Your teeth are like a flock of sheep just shorn,
coming up from the washing.
Each has its twin;
not one of them is alone.
3 Your lips are like a scarlet ribbon;
your mouth is lovely.
Your temples behind your veil
are like the halves of a pomegranate.
4 Your neck is like the tower of David,
built with courses of stone[a];
on it hang a thousand shields,
all of them shields of warriors.
5 Your breasts are like two fawns,
like twin fawns of a gazelle
that browse among the lilies.
6 Until the day breaks
and the shadows flee,
I will go to the mountain of myrrh
and to the hill of incense.
MY GOD, THIS!
But your stupid but more honest friends claim a supernatural flood explains geology.
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Your intelligent diety apparently forgot to kill the Chinese and several other ancient races that existed with written histories around the time of the flood. One would think that a diety that would create the universe would be more efficient at genocide and infantacide.
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I actually have more respect for young earth creationism in the fact that it does not back down and move goal posts when it comes to claims.
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I have seen people who are handicapped leading Pentecostal healing services. One wonders how much falsification of a claim some people need.
I really respect Carl Sagan here. His exact words were..."I don't want to believe, I want to know"
He alsp pointed out that physicists had laboratories and metaphysics did not...