FDNY Entrance Exam Biased Against Minorities?

Abraxas said:
As the Village Voice article that I posted clearly states there is absolutely nothing wrong with the test, but there is definitely something wrong with the NYFD hiring policies.
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Quote the Village Voice article where it says that there is absolutely nothing wrong with the test.

Also, too, why are we to take the word of the Village Voice over the findings of the federal distrcit court and the Second Circuit Court of Appeals?
 
Bonestorm said:
Quote the Village Voice article where it says that there is absolutely nothing wrong with the test.

Also, too, why are we to take the word of the Village Voice over the findings of the federal distrcit court and the Second Circuit Court of Appeals?
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More to the point why would you? Because you find it convenient, as you can see well enough that test is mostly absurd but not unfair.
 
Abraxas said:
As the Village Voice article that I posted clearly states there is absolutely nothing wrong with the test, but there is definitely something wrong with the NYFD hiring policies.
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There's a definite cultural attraction to different civil service positions in New York City based upon word-of-mouth family and friend personal recruitment.

The NYC Department of Corrections, for example, is 66% black, with the balance mostly split between white and hispanics. They may have about a 10% white working employment rate.

The difference being: that a majority of the minority is "diversity", to be celebrated.

A majority of the majority is "institutional racism", to be prosecuted.
 
Abraxas said:
Taft makes the entirely reasonable point that the Village Voice, the bible of liberalism is ridiculing this test, I am fairly certain that they had access to the rest of it as well.
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The village voice is the bible of liberalism? You just pull this stuff out of your ass with zero embarrassment don't you?
 
Abraxas said:
More to the point why would you? Because you find it convenient, as you can see well enough that test is mostly absurd but not unfair.
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First, quote the Village Voice article where you think it says what you claim. Second, I take the word of the courts because they had the benefit of a full and complete record and the arguments of able counsel representing each of the parties in an adversarial process resulting in a reasoned decsions that was affirmed on appeal and which was not subsequently challenged as erroneous. Third, you don't have the full test. You have ten questions.
 
Taft2016 said:
There's a definite cultural attraction to different civil service positions in New York City based upon word-of-mouth family and friend personal recruitment.

The NYC Department of Corrections, for example, is 66% black, with the balance mostly split between white and hispanics. They may have about a 10% white working employment rate.

The difference being: that a majority of the minority is "diversity", to be celebrated.

A majority of the majority is "institutional racism", to be prosecuted.
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Ooh, are these pearls of wisdom things that you learned from your white supremacist friends at the American Renaissance and the New Century Foundation?
 
Darla said:
I don't know if I've come across a Jewish stormfront fan before. Especially one so concerned with perceived antisemitism.
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Yes, I suppose I should be more fair. Maybe he only associates with the white supremacists who consider Jews as among the white folk.
 
I wasn't familiar with the website in question. It came up on Google.

Maybe it is what you say, maybe it isn't. Based on what you say about the FDNY entrance exam, you will naturally understand my reticence to accept your declarations of "RACISM!" on face value.

Now are you just going to hang up the rest of the conversation hiding behind this, or try to respond?

I suspect the former.
 
Bonestorm said:
First, quote the Village Voice article where you think it says what you claim. Second, I take the word of the courts because they had the benefit of a full and complete record and the arguments of able counsel representing each of the parties in an adversarial process resulting in a reasoned decsions that was affirmed on appeal and which was not subsequently challenged as erroneous. Third, you don't have the full test. You have ten questions.
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What the fuck is wrong with you I gave the link to the whole article read it first!!
 
Taft2016 said:
I wasn't familiar with the website in question. It came up on Google.

Maybe it is what you say, maybe it isn't. Based on what you say about the FDNY entrance exam, you will naturally understand my reticence to accept your declarations of "RACISM!" on face value.

Now are you just going to hang up the rest of the conversation hiding behind this, or try to respond?

I suspect the former.
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Are you seriously disputing whether that's a white supremacist group? Do you prefer their "white separatist" nomenclature instead?
 
It's okay Taft, don't feel too badly. They're going to get to the Jews after they've dealt with the blacks, so you guys are working on the same team for now. Allying yourself with someone to achieve short-term gains and later splitting is the only way to get some shit done. And god knows something has to be done about the blacks. Who else is going to help? The effing hippies? I don't blame you, I don't care what anyone says.
 
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