What's so bad about what Donald Trump said?

Aren't you doing what you are objecting to?

if you hate government than you hate this country.

the founders designed government anew and Americans love what they were given,


evil fucking traitors from within hate government and want to kill it.


you are one
 
if you hate government than you hate this country.

the founders designed government anew and Americans love what they were given,


evil fucking traitors from within hate government and want to kill it.


you are one

And yet the founders went so out of their way to limit government's power. Are you familiar with the Bill of Rights? You may in particular focus on the 10th amendment. Do you know what it says?
 
the right wing today says right out loud that they hate government


that makes them the enemy of the people
 
the right wing today says right out loud that they hate government


that makes them the enemy of the people


I'm not sure I understand that point. How does wanting to limit government mean hating the people? Our government has committed far greater atrocities to the people of the United States than any other government.

It starts with the dependency traps of Social Security, Obamacare and the rest of the Federal welfare state. Our government is engaging is endless wars which are not for defense. Our government is harming our economic base with socialist control. Our government uses the wars on drugs and terror to pry into our private business without warrants. What foreign government could dream of doing that to us?
 
if you hate government than you hate this country.

the founders designed government anew and Americans love what they were given,


evil fucking traitors from within hate government and want to kill it.


you are one

No, i want to limit government. I'm a small government libertarian, not an anarchist. We need military, the police, civil and criminal courts, management of limited resources (e.g., water), recognition and protection of property rights. Where did you get the idea I wanted to "kill" government? I never said that
 
your side thinks it fucking cool to hate the government.

why?

My side? You mean the 1% of us?

Again, I don't really know what that means. We simply recognize that government is the worst solution to any problem, therefore is should be used only when it is the only solution to a problem. You can't have competing military, police, recognition of property rights, etc. So those are appropriate uses of government. Government taking from one person with force and giving to another has a name, it's called armed robbery
 
"We simply recognize that government is the worst solution to any problem"


the founders did not agree with you you evil fucking traitor to this nation
 
"We simply recognize that government is the worst solution to any problem"


the founders did not agree with you you evil fucking traitor to this nation

Actually, they did. Which is why they defined the role of government and then said government can do nothing that was not explicitly granted to it. That limit has been ignored by generations
 
go get the quote from the founders saying government of, by and for the people is evil you liar

Just so you know, I don't respond to posts like that. Next time I'll ignore it completely, but I wanted to let you know that once so you don't think I just missed it
 
you have no proof


you are a fucking liar



I call you out on it and you get all insulted.

Its why I call you assholes names


your fuciking lairs with demented factless fucking shit you claim is truth when it fucking lie filled fantasy
 
you have no proof


you are a fucking liar



I call you out on it and you get all insulted.

Its why I call you assholes names


your fuciking lairs with demented factless fucking shit you claim is truth when it fucking lie filled fantasy

I'm not insulted by you at all, in fact I think you're pretty comic. There just isn't much gained trying to discuss anything with someone acting like someone just called them Rumpelstiltskin
 
Desh are the police part of the government? When people chant death to cops does that mean they hate the government?
 
Conservative commentators have tried to morph Trump's quote to mean "when we improve our system of vetting."

But that isn't what Trump said. He explained himself a few times - he means "until we figure out why they hate America."

It's child-like. The popularity of Trump is stunning to me, and is telling me something about Americans that I don't really want to know. We're still a pretty stupid country, and when we're afraid, we'll support just about anything.

Hitler was an evil man, and I don't think Trump is Hitler - but a lot of what is happening now is VERY similar to what happened in Germany in the '30's.
 
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