Why Trump Beats Hillary

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Republican regulars are melting down in fear that Donald Trump will lead the party to disaster in November. Let’s check that assumption.

First: This general election is going to be the ugliest in US history — no matter whom the GOP nominates, because that’s Hillary Clinton’s plan.

Once she’s ground Bernie Sanders to dust, Clinton will reactivate her Goldman Sachs ATM card, hoover up a billion or so from Wall Street, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, etc. — and prep the mother of all attack-ad blitzes. :whoa:

It’s her only option: She’s too known a quantity to improve her image. She can’t pull off Barack Obama’s 2008 “hope and change” approach, only his 2012 “win by destroying your opponent” tack.

In 2012, Obama won 3.5 million fewer votes than in his first run. But he focused his efforts on getting his people out — and suppressing the pro-Romney vote with week after week of vicious lies and smears.

Romney couldn’t answer with his own ads — his campaign was broke. For weeks, all he could do was raise cash.

For the record, Marco Rubio would be in the same spot. Paul Krugman this week already sketched out the Clinton attacks on him: He wants Mitt Romney to pay ZERO taxes, and he’s a warmonger just like W. They’ll find or create personal dirt, too — as they will with any GOP nominee.

Trump won’t be left mute. He can write a $1 billion check and get right back in the fight. (Note to The Donald: Real estate assets aren’t that liquid. I hope you’re freeing up cash now.)

Of course, even Trump will be taken aback by the venom that’s about to come his way. It’ll make the primary look like a knitting circle, and Megyn Kelly seem as sweet as Melania.

He’s spent a lifetime cutting real estate deals. Decades of enemies will dish. Team Hillary will ghostwrite the 20-part New York Times series on all the little people he’s supposedly screwed over. People from his grade-school classes will say he was a bully even then.

Still, he’s also spent a lifetime in the New York media market. He’s already proven he hits back hard — and that’s the only answer that works.

Look: He’s already shut up the Clintons. She started calling him anti-woman, and he went right to the rape card — citing charges never disproven, and the fact that Hillary helped silence Bill’s accusers.

And Clinton’s attacks may not even take. For Trump’s base, the fact that he’s a jerk is a plus — because he’s their jerk. He’ll do what it takes to deliver for them.

Can he get the regular GOP base to come out and vote for him? Well, that’s the easiest trick in the book.

They came out for John McCain in ’08, and Mitt Romney in ’12, despite the years each had spent far off the reservation.

And he’ll be running against Hillary Clinton — who has personified evil for Republicans for more than two decades now.

With control of the Supreme Court on the line. It’ll be easy for The Donald to assure the base here:
I loved Scalia — what a class act. Maybe I’d appoint his son — what a gorgeous service that was. Why can’t we put a priest on the court? By the way, the Catholics love me . . . Anyway, we’ll practically clone Scalia, and maybe that Alito guy too. I love Italians — such a warm people. Clarence Thomas — what a mensch. They tried the same crap with him that they’re trying with me. A great American.

Nor does the base much mind Trump’s major deviations from GOP orthodoxy: It’s the big donors who get hot and bothered on trade and immigration, but they have almost no votes, just money.

Money that Trump doesn’t need.

Head to head with Clinton? Sure, he talks in “word salad,” but he always gets his point across. She’s stiff and a compulsive liar — worse: She’s a bad compulsive liar.

Big picture: Since the first George Bush won in 1988, no Republican’s broken 50 percent of the vote except W’s 51 percent in 2004 — against John Kerry, one of the worst candidates ever.

Trump looks to have locked up the working-class voters the GOP needs to smash through the 50-yard line. He needs the Republican base to come out and vote for him, too — but he doesn’t have to make them love him, or even like him.

They just have to hate Hillary more — when she’s running as Barack Obama’s heir.

Looks like pretty good odds to me.
http://nypost.com/2016/02/24/why-trump-might-be-the-best-republican-to-take-on-hillary/
 
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Republicans supposedly hated Obama and they couldn't beat him in '12. The author also makes no mention of the number of minorities that will come out specifically to vote against Trump.

I would never rule out Trump winning but I'm not buying this person's argument that the anti-Hillary vote alone will win Republicans the nomination.
 
Republicans supposedly hated Obama and they couldn't beat him in '12. The author also makes no mention of the number of minorities that will come out specifically to vote against Trump.

I would never rule out Trump winning but I'm not buying this person's argument that the anti-Hillary vote alone will win Republicans the nomination.
he's saying it will be a "base election", and the Republican base is more motivated + the working class vote beats her..

I just though the language was hilarious, while matching the weirdness of this election.

Crass stiff Wall St. liar vs. Crass 'word salad' wall builder.. (etc.)
 
he's saying it will be a "base election", and the Republican base is more motivated + the working class vote beats her..

I just though the language was hilarious, while matching the weirdness of this election.

Crass stiff Wall St. liar vs. Crass 'word salad' wall builder.. (etc.)

I understand his point, and I suspect it will be a base election, but the nomination of Trump will motivate the Democratic base in the way the Republican base has been motivated lately. Additionally, I know a lot of Cons who are demotivated by Trump.
 
Republican regulars are melting down in fear that Donald Trump will lead the party to disaster in November. Let’s check that assumption.

First: This general election is going to be the ugliest in US history — no matter whom the GOP nominates, because that’s Hillary Clinton’s plan.

Once she’s ground Bernie Sanders to dust, Clinton will reactivate her Goldman Sachs ATM card, hoover up a billion or so from Wall Street, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, etc. — and prep the mother of all attack-ad blitzes. :whoa:

It’s her only option: She’s too known a quantity to improve her image. She can’t pull off Barack Obama’s 2008 “hope and change” approach, only his 2012 “win by destroying your opponent” tack.

In 2012, Obama won 3.5 million fewer votes than in his first run. But he focused his efforts on getting his people out — and suppressing the pro-Romney vote with week after week of vicious lies and smears.

Romney couldn’t answer with his own ads — his campaign was broke. For weeks, all he could do was raise cash.

For the record, Marco Rubio would be in the same spot. Paul Krugman this week already sketched out the Clinton attacks on him: He wants Mitt Romney to pay ZERO taxes, and he’s a warmonger just like W. They’ll find or create personal dirt, too — as they will with any GOP nominee.

Trump won’t be left mute. He can write a $1 billion check and get right back in the fight. (Note to The Donald: Real estate assets aren’t that liquid. I hope you’re freeing up cash now.)

Of course, even Trump will be taken aback by the venom that’s about to come his way. It’ll make the primary look like a knitting circle, and Megyn Kelly seem as sweet as Melania.

He’s spent a lifetime cutting real estate deals. Decades of enemies will dish. Team Hillary will ghostwrite the 20-part New York Times series on all the little people he’s supposedly screwed over. People from his grade-school classes will say he was a bully even then.

Still, he’s also spent a lifetime in the New York media market. He’s already proven he hits back hard — and that’s the only answer that works.

Look: He’s already shut up the Clintons. She started calling him anti-woman, and he went right to the rape card — citing charges never disproven, and the fact that Hillary helped silence Bill’s accusers.

And Clinton’s attacks may not even take. For Trump’s base, the fact that he’s a jerk is a plus — because he’s their jerk. He’ll do what it takes to deliver for them.

Can he get the regular GOP base to come out and vote for him? Well, that’s the easiest trick in the book.

They came out for John McCain in ’08, and Mitt Romney in ’12, despite the years each had spent far off the reservation.

And he’ll be running against Hillary Clinton — who has personified evil for Republicans for more than two decades now.

With control of the Supreme Court on the line. It’ll be easy for The Donald to assure the base here:
I loved Scalia — what a class act. Maybe I’d appoint his son — what a gorgeous service that was. Why can’t we put a priest on the court? By the way, the Catholics love me . . . Anyway, we’ll practically clone Scalia, and maybe that Alito guy too. I love Italians — such a warm people. Clarence Thomas — what a mensch. They tried the same crap with him that they’re trying with me. A great American.

Nor does the base much mind Trump’s major deviations from GOP orthodoxy: It’s the big donors who get hot and bothered on trade and immigration, but they have almost no votes, just money.

Money that Trump doesn’t need.

Head to head with Clinton? Sure, he talks in “word salad,” but he always gets his point across. She’s stiff and a compulsive liar — worse: She’s a bad compulsive liar.

Big picture: Since the first George Bush won in 1988, no Republican’s broken 50 percent of the vote except W’s 51 percent in 2004 — against John Kerry, one of the worst candidates ever.

Trump looks to have locked up the working-class voters the GOP needs to smash through the 50-yard line. He needs the Republican base to come out and vote for him, too — but he doesn’t have to make them love him, or even like him.

They just have to hate Hillary more — when she’s running as Barack Obama’s heir.

Looks like pretty good odds to me.
http://nypost.com/2016/02/24/why-trump-might-be-the-best-republican-to-take-on-hillary/



ABSOLUTELY!
 
Republicans supposedly hated Obama and they couldn't beat him in '12.

The Republican base hated Obama, (as did other victims of the man's fucked up policies.) The Republican establishment was terrified of him and afraid to put a real conservative OR AT LEAST A REAL FIGHTER up against him

The author also makes no mention of the number of minorities that will come out specifically to vote against Trump.

Probably because for the first time in history, Trump is polling about 25 percent with blacks. In Nevada he LED with Hispanics. Kinda hard to bash a guy who employs so many blacks and Hispanics and pays them so well. I'm thinking that there are a TON of blacks and latinos who haven't been able to find a job and who would put aside their racial bias and look after their own interests for a change. The Democrats have done nothing but damage to blacks, for as long as there has been a Democrat Party. THIS just might be the election that gets the black community OUT of the Democrat ghetto plantation and back on the side of America.
I would never rule out Trump winning but I'm not buying this person's argument that the anti-Hillary vote alone will win Republicans the nomination.

You've got a point. Trump has campaigned against Hillary a lot less than Rubio and Cruz and he has remained at the top of the polls. He HAS the nomination sewed up.

I predict he is going to run with his very positive message of making America great again, bringing jobs in from China, fixing the border and getting rid of Obamacare.

Hillary has nothing at all positive to run on. She'll come after him with plenty of negative ink. But here's the thing: The guy is a street fighter. Unlike ALL the pussy RINO candidates in the past who shied away from the fight, THE DONALD is Rocky Balboa. He'll take her Nazi ass apart, brick shithouse by brick shithouse.
 
he's saying it will be a "base election", and the Republican base is more motivated + the working class vote beats her..

I just though the language was hilarious, while matching the weirdness of this election.

Crass stiff Wall St. liar vs. Crass 'word salad' wall builder.. (etc.)

Just remember: the Republican establishment are all saying Trump is not a conservative. (even though most of his policies are almost a mirror image of those of Ronaldus Magnus) And he has taken plenty of shots at the politically correct Bush family. I believe that will get a lot of stay the fuck home Republicans who feel betrayed by Bush's liberal policies to finally come out. And the moderate Bush Lied and People Died crowd will support Trump. Most important, the Democrats have been blaming Bush for everything wrong with the economy. THE DONALD has just taken that ammunition away from them.


He's looking to rewrite the Electoral College map. With his grasp of angry blue collar workers and his unique celebrity status in New York State, it's likely that NY, Michigan and Wisconsin's Electoral votes could be in play. And that's the ballgame.
HIllary would have to register half of China and get them over here to vote just to break even.
 
Just remember: the Republican establishment are all saying Trump is not a conservative. (even though most of his policies are almost a mirror image of those of Ronaldus Magnus) And he has taken plenty of shots at the politically correct Bush family. I believe that will get a lot of stay the fuck home Republicans who feel betrayed by Bush's liberal policies to finally come out. And the moderate Bush Lied and People Died crowd will support Trump. Most important, the Democrats have been blaming Bush for everything wrong with the economy. THE DONALD has just taken that ammunition away from them.


He's looking to rewrite the Electoral College map. With his grasp of angry blue collar workers and his unique celebrity status in New York State, it's likely that NY, Michigan and Wisconsin's Electoral votes could be in play. And that's the ballgame.
HIllary would have to register half of China and get them over here to vote just to break even.

Reagan was a populous? Da fvck? You earlier called Rubio a liberal because you said he offered free college to Dreamers. Reagan gave amnesty to illegals. That is the antitheses of Trump.
 
The less educated republican you are the more you fancy trump

Actually only a fucking MORON would vote for a Democrat, after they have fucked this country's economy so many times. Less educated people have one vote apiece, same as those who have student loans and useless degrees to pay back.

And even the dumbest Republican is still several grades smarter than the average Democrat.
 
I understand his point, and I suspect it will be a base election, but the nomination of Trump will motivate the Democratic base in the way the Republican base has been motivated lately. Additionally, I know a lot of Cons who are demotivated by Trump.
sure. battle of the bases electorate becomes more hyper-partisanship seeped down in to the electorate's soul.

The only Hope for Change is Bernie Sanders ,but he doesn't get the Hillary black base vote,
and the chance for a (real) political revolutions slips away for yet another generation in favor of establishment electoral extremism.
 
Actually only a fucking MORON would vote for a Democrat, after they have fucked this country's economy so many times. Less educated people have one vote apiece, same as those who have student loans and useless degrees to pay back.

And even the dumbest Republican is still several grades smarter than the average Democrat.

You are one of those dumbass republicans
The more college you have the more likely you are a democrat. Fact
The richest are also democrats
You douchebag
 
The politics of other billion-dollar families aren’t as well known. Of the 50 richest families, 28 mainly donate to Republicans and only seven contribute mainly to Democrats. Not all families stay on the same side of the political spectrum — 15 support candidates from both parties.

According to Forbes.
 
The politics of other billion-dollar families aren’t as well known. Of the 50 richest families, 28 mainly donate to Republicans and only seven contribute mainly to Democrats. Not all families stay on the same side of the political spectrum — 15 support candidates from both parties.

According to Forbes.
The richest by far are gates and Buffett both democrats, can't imagine zuckerburg or musk being conservatard
 
The politics of other billion-dollar families aren’t as well known. Of the 50 richest families, 28 mainly donate to Republicans and only seven contribute mainly to Democrats. Not all families stay on the same side of the political spectrum — 15 support candidates from both parties.

According to Forbes.

Isn't that interesting. And Trump is ahead of the pack by barely spending any of his own money. Imagine that!

You can be certain that President Trump will not own ANY favors to any rich donors.
 
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