Woman card?

Rana said:
The lies that won't go away, shame on you anatta, I didn't think you would post something without verifying it.

After analyzing all Clinton's full-time employees' salaries from 2002-2008, Cramer found that Sen Clinton paid equally — in fact, women earned slightly more. "During the seven years, women made more on average for Clinton, according to the data. Women made an average of about $56,000, while men made about $52,000," she writes. And, Clinton consistently employed more women than men.

http://www.refinery29.com/2015/04/82872/hillary-clinton-wage-gap-underpaid-staffers-allegations

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/22/hillary-clinton-gender-pay-gap_n_7117620.html
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I can't double check everything. I remember hearing about it..( why I sourced it) but that's an interesting comparison..

It lookslike if part time workers are factored in, there is no gap, but there is if there are full time workers.

What does that tell us?? *beats me*
 
AssHatZombie said:
And after trump I would want Bernie. Both are vocally for working people, and against bad trade deals.

Hillary is an establishment monster. She had to say she was against the tpp, because Bernie put it on the democratic radar. You and I both know she's for it.
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I can't disagree with that.. I was first and foremost a Bernie supporter; not so much for his policies, but for his campaign
of small donors (revolutionary) and income inequality ( a very real issue)..

I loathe Clinton, and would support Trump for the same reason -break up the MS parties stagnating influence
and monied oligarchy.

Hillary is a consummate shape shifter.
When it becomes politically convenient again she'll go back to her praise of the TPP as the "gold standard" she previously called it.
 
Rana said:
How about how you treat women first, start there, then you can bitch about Islamic countries.

The best way to bring Islamic countries into the 21st century on women's rights is to expose their women to the ideas that they are equal. It is not by ostracizing them.
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that is what Trump was saying about exposing western values on his foreign policy speech the other day.

How about instead we let them run their own countries instead of judging them thru our prism?
 
Tpp, nafta, all these trade deals are an idiotic race to the bottom, benefiting only corporations and their profit first, antihuman narrative in the end.
 
Darla said:
Few things are more entertaining to me than watching white men cry, whine and screech about "identity politics". Their logic (excuse the grandiose word in this case) flies in the face of hundreds of years of power and rule being held by white men. It's just a coincidence that prior to 2008 we had all white male Presidents, and that the CEO's of fortune 500 companies were predominately white males. That our entire power structure was run by, and run for, white males. But of course that wasn't identity politics, because white isn't a race and male isn't a gender.

This is no doubt the most messed up election in my life, so only a fool will state with certainty what the outcome will be. I do hope Hillary Clinton wins, and not least, believe me not least, because I can't wait to watch the hysterics of white men. You guys should be charging admission because it's the show of the century.
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Awwwww look who crawled out of the ooze to grace us with her presence. It is like saying Beetlejuice three times
 
I Love America said:
You were supposed to be gone never to return. So........
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I said I'd never return? Sounds pretty dramatic. I don't even recall why I left or when, I know it was a long time ago, I know I got really bored with politics and took a break from them and not just here, and I know I check in from time to time. I also know whenever I do check in Tom is yapping about me, STILL, but this time it was you yapping. That's as much thought as I've given any of this. Too bad you can't say the same!
 
Darla said:
I said I'd never return? Sounds pretty dramatic. I don't even recall why I left or when, I know it was a long time ago, I know I got really bored with politics and took a break from them and not just here, and I know I check in from time to time. I also know whenever I do check in Tom is yapping about me, STILL, but this time it was you yapping. That's as much thought as I've given any of this. Too bad you can't say the same!
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Glad you are here, we missed u!
 
Darla said:
I said I'd never return? Sounds pretty dramatic. I don't even recall why I left or when, I know it was a long time ago, I know I got really bored with politics and took a break from them and not just here, and I know I check in from time to time. I also know whenever I do check in Tom is yapping about me, STILL, but this time it was you yapping. That's as much thought as I've given any of this. Too bad you can't say the same!
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They miss you so much, it really is sad how empty their little lives are without you!
 
AssHatZombie said:
God Damn it rana,, when will progs wake up to the horrors of Islam?
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I realize there are some aspects of Islam that are destructive, but just like Christianity, it isn't all of them, so I don't paint all of Islam with a board brush. I would prefer a world without religion.
 
anatta said:
that is what Trump was saying about exposing western values on his foreign policy speech the other day.

How about instead we let them run their own countries instead of judging them thru our prism?
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It isn't about Westernizing them, it is about educating them, especially women, and making them understand that patriarchy does not need to rule them. There are those women who will choose to remain subservient to males and that is their choice, but I think all people should be given choices.

So, basically I agree with you, but I want them to have the ability to act for themselves.
 
Rana said:
It isn't about Westernizing them, it is about educating them, especially women, and making them understand that patriarchy does not need to rule them. There are those women who will choose to remain subservient to males and that is their choice, but I think all people should be given choices.

So, basically I agree with you, but I want them to have the ability to act for themselves.
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In some countries they do. Pre-evolutionary Iran comes to mind. Turkey is largely secular.
Some of it is religious some of it cultural -none of it is westerners business in term of coming in/preaching or educating.
Many times you put women at risk ( the mullahs in Afghanistan who call for stoning women they rape is an example.

I do agree exposure is a good idea; the problem is exposure is rarely limited to such..people/nations have to find their own ways
 
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