Is honesty an issue in this campaign?

Clinton's dissembling on her Email explanations falls apart. Then she makes a new stance, and that falls apart too. etc.
At some point extensive dissembling becomes lying -but her supporters always find more ways to accommodate her.

Trump is so bombastic it's hard enough figuring out what he is trying to say..then he'll go back and adjust.
Is that the same/worse/as known prevarications?

What a gawd awful bunch to choose from

Unless you think Politifact's biased, Trump has more lies than all the others put together.
 
I don't know the Trump minutia. it was a generalized comment to NOVA.
But was it because he took on too much debt, or because Atlantic city fell apart as a market? more then 1 factor?

Anyways.. Trump success/failures as businessman isn't that important In regards to how he would be POTUS.
They all run up reckless debt -why we are $20t in the hole and counting.

It's what issues he would prioritize ,and what type of methodology he would use are my metrics for judgement

It isn't important, then is that like saying Hillary's past behavior will not reflect on how she would be POTUS? I'll have to remember that!
 
Oh brother Rune. Every major corporation in the nation has numerous bankruptcies for failed business units and franchises. It's part of doing business. Some models succeed and generate profits. Most fail within five years.

Using bankruptcies as a sign of failure is only appropriate when you come out of one personally bankrupt.

When these companies went bankrupt we didn't yawn and say it's part of doing business. They ruined a lot of people.

Lehman Brothers, Washington Mutual, General Motors, CIT, Enron, Chrysler LLC, Pacific Gas and Electric Co.
 
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Unless you think Politifact's biased, Trump has more lies than all the others put together.
Clinton lied to the American public - bald faced lies for her "reasoning" and everyone has fallen thru over.
She got caught instead ,when she thought she could skate thru
There are lies and Damn Liers.

I trust nothing by WaPo. It's a spin machine. I realize Trump lies -but not as yet to my face
 
I said NOTHING about wanting him for President. The question was about his business acumen. Am I not allowed to answer that?

I'm sorry if it seemed like a personal attack, it wasn't meant that way. But plenty of cons here tout his business and marketing experience as reasons why he'd make a good president.
 
Clinton lied to the American public - bald faced lies for her "reasoning" and everyone has fallen thru over.
She got caught instead ,when she thought she could skate thru
There are lies and Damn Liers.

I trust nothing by WaPo. It's a spin machine. I realize Trump lies -but not as yet to my face

So, you aren't watching TV, what an absurd statement, sorry this is just too funny.
 
Clinton lied to the American public - bald faced lies for her "reasoning" and everyone has fallen thru over.
She got caught instead ,when she thought she could skate thru
There are lies and Damn Liers.

I trust nothing by WaPo. It's a spin machine. I realize Trump lies -but not as yet to my face

To your face? Trump told "you" and the rest of us to our faces that Obama wasn't born in the US and that his "investigators" could prove it.

That's just one thing.
 
It isn't important, then is that like saying Hillary's past behavior will not reflect on how she would be POTUS? I'll have to remember that!
Hillary's behavior goes to her character. She's a lying conniving arrogant power junkie.
Then add in her crappy judgment as Sec of state..what is there to support??

I admit I'm looking to support Trump to switch out the appointed bureaucrats as well..but he makes it a damn difficult task! :)
 
When these companies went bankrupt we didn't yawn and say it's part of doing business. They ruined down a lot of people.

Lehman Brothers, Washington Mutual, General Motors, CIT, Enron, Chrysler LLC, Pacific Gas and Electric Co.

Part of doing business is ruining people's lives? Every time someone files bankruptcy it leads to a chain of events, people don't get paid or get paid less which often leads to their businesses failing. It is such callus indifference to me.
 
Part of doing business is ruining people's lives? Every time someone files bankruptcy it leads to a chain of events, people don't get paid or get paid less which often leads to their businesses failing. It is such callus indifference to me.

Exactly and you know who comes out on top. The executives and the lawyers. Screw the "little people."
 
To your face? Trump told "you" and the rest of us to our faces that Obama wasn't born in the US and that his "investigators" could prove it.That's just one thing.
true. I had forgotten that insanity. 'Obama is a Muslim" and all that left over '08 stuff.
But I do not get the revulsion/skin crawling/ "ickiness" feeling I get when I hear Clinton's head spinning out lies of convenience
 
Part of doing business is ruining people's lives? Every time someone files bankruptcy it leads to a chain of events, people don't get paid or get paid less which often leads to their businesses failing. It is such callus indifference to me.
Not every bankruptcy is the same. Should we say punish Amazon for making Barnes & Noble close so many stores? Should we punish Netflix for putting Blockbuster into bankruptcy? The whole idea of "disruption" is to change the way business has always been done. When that happens business that can't compete in the new paradigm file BK or cease to exist.
 
So, you aren't watching TV, what an absurd statement, sorry this is just too funny.
i'm thru working - I go online for my sources while taking phone calls for Infomercials during the day. It's not distracting that way.
But none of this is new to those of us who have been following her Email releases-her story has fallen apart as quickly as she amends it.
 
true. I had forgotten that insanity. 'Obama is a Muslim" and all that left over '08 stuff.
But I do not get the revulsion/skin crawling/ "ickiness" feeling I get when I hear Clinton's head spinning out lies of convenience
Then I can mark down as an idiot like the rest of the Trump supporters.
 
i'm thru working - I go online for my sources while taking phone calls for Infomercials during the day. It's not distracting that way.
But none of this is new to those of us who have been following her Email releases-her story has fallen apart as quickly as she amends it.
And that fact that you don't see Donald doing the same thing makes you an idiot, sorry, in fact he lies faster and more often.
 
worse is his not paying off legitimate debt. bankruptcies are legal affairs -not paying vendors is greed

Legal affairs designed to protect the rich and screw the little guys. Trump says he is for the little guys, that makes me laugh
 
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