Hillary as Sec of State

tsuke said:
if your black hes your only hope. :D

consider that the other side wants to increase illegal immigration. Those are people who compete directly with blacks for jobs. Their existence also means its higher to effectively get higher wages as employers can always switch to illegals. according to sanders blacks had a 50% youth unemployment.

Its like anything else once you give your complete loyalty to a party ( in this case giving them nearly 100% of your vote) they take you for granted in search of newer votes.

Want democrats to pay attention to you more? Dont give them 90-100% of your vote.
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The bolded is pretty incendiary comment sookie. You might want to rethink it.
 
blackascoal said:
There is NO question whatsoever that Clinton would be far better on human and women's rights. They aren't just an afterthought.
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considering that both would take second to how much money she could make selling her influence on the issue, the definitely would be the afterthought...
 
blackascoal said:
Not sure what makes you think advancing human and women's rights are not advancing US interests.
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call me crazy, but there may actually be more interests involved in the world than human and women's rights.......like human and women's need to be safe from terrorist attack......or human and women's needs to be safe from violence in the city streets.......how about humans and women getting good paying jobs.......how about the children of humans and women getting a quality education.........how about humans and women having access to health care without government interference?........we all know Hilliary has been fucking those issues up for decades........now we're supposed to be placated because she's in favor of human and woman's rights?........do you somehow believe there is a candidate out there who is against human and women's rights?.....
 
anatta said:
you don't get populism.
Do the establishment elite help you in any way -or are they there as a plutocracy -self-serving their own interests?

I'm for Trump for the same reason I was for sanders.
Temporal policies come and go-but the entrenched special interests ruling thru the corrupted establishment live on en perpetuity.
Trump isn't my first choice -but as the saying goes "history makes the man". I'd rather have had Sanders,
but i'll take ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO BLOW UP ESTABLISHMENT POLITICS.

It's one reason "pay for play" was so accommodating to Big Donors. They are used to flushing large sums of cash thru politicians
in order to be heard/serve their interests. Clinton is nothing but pure establishment.

I would point you to the numerous advisory institutions in the W.House.

NSC / CIA / DNI /Joint Chiefs/ Chief of Staff. They can all help guide Trump ( any any POTUS).
It's "governing for dummies" -just point to where you want to make a decision,and the WH will go that way, and so will government.
It doesn't take a policy wonk to run the White House -it does take someone who can see the big picture.
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Bullshit.
Dubya proves your theory is crap
 
blackascoal said:
Trump is a joke .. AND, he is the white knight of right-wing racism.
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I guess you and I are just looking for different things in a president......you want someone that satisfies your sense of racial justice........I want someone who doesn't accept bribes and doesn't lie to the American people......Hillary satisfies your needs, but not mine.......Trump satisfies my needs but not yours.....
 
tsuke said:
if your black hes your only hope. :D

consider that the other side wants to increase illegal immigration. Those are people who compete directly with blacks for jobs. Their existence also means its higher to effectively get higher wages as employers can always switch to illegals. according to sanders blacks had a 50% youth unemployment.

Its like anything else once you give your complete loyalty to a party ( in this case giving them nearly 100% of your vote) they take you for granted in search of newer votes.

Want democrats to pay attention to you more? Dont give them 90-100% of your vote.
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Please provide evidence that Dems want to increase illegal imigration.
Thanks
 
blackascoal said:
Not sure what makes you think advancing human and women's rights are not advancing US interests. They most certainly do .. just as the Civil Rights Era advanced US interests. The role of president is protecting the American people from within and without.

If you can't see the danger and lunacy of electing a president that doesn't have a clue how to run the government .. nor has the temperament for it .. not sure what to tell you my friend. That's crazy.
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How are you "advancing human and women's rights" when you take large sums of money from heads of states who are running governments that have the worst records on women's and human rights?
 
anatta said:
Temperment is a valid argument, as is warhawking/corruption/usurping of the Constitution by HRClinton ( and Dem's in general)..

What you describe ( human/woman's rights) are ancillary interests - if they piggy back on to policy decisions great-
but they are not reason for policy in themselves.
The fact that Clinton is only able to point to such - while completely screwing up her duties otherwise indicts her campaign.

Trump has actually gotten better with his ideas. he's dropped the "Muslim ban" in favor of "extreme vetting-
he's still stuck on "the wall" when there are much better high tech security options that do not interfere with the ecosystem.
Recall he's not a professional politician, meaning he looks outside the box. That's not a bad thing
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you are an un-American sociopath
 
anatta said:
you can look at it from your perspective as a black man. I don't really know that perspective; i respect your views as such.

But i'm looking at this as a political revolution -again the same as sanders with his excoriating Clinton for her secret Wall St speeches
( she actually said Wall St is best able to regulate itself!) -that is pandering to the plutocrats!
It surpasses any narrow demographics. It's about enabling the 1%'rs or curtailing them. I'm sure you get this as a socialist.

The far right is much the same as the far left - and that's my narrow perspective as a fence sitting moderate.
They are both fascists -the far left does it thru government powers (usuping Constitutional rule)
while the far right does it thru hate . Fuck all that noise from both of them.

Big Donor/Corruption/warmongering/plutocratatic pandering * barf* no way in hell can I vote for any of that! (Clinton)
I'll take "blow up the establishment" ( reorganize along new lines) instead.
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your toilet bowl wont even show his med record or taxes
 
NOVA said:
It isn't just his child-like temperament ....................................With that 'temperament' he has earned billions of dollars and became a force before running for office

he has NO LEGISLATIVE EXPERIENCE ..................................... a presidents job isn't to legislate, its akin to being a CEO, hiring the best, listening to technical experts

DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE ABOUT HOW TO RUN A GOVERNMENT ..... at least as much as a community organizer, as I say above.

HAS FEW POLITICAL ALLIES IN HIS OWN COUNTRY >>.............. ??? how so....he'll get millions of votes, but if you mean in politics well

AND CAN'T EVEN COUNT ON HIS OWN PARTY...........................the elites fear him, both Democrats and Republicans....their little applecart is about to hit some ruts, thats a good thing
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A. His running businesses by bankruptcy means almost nothing. By those standards, Dave from Wendy's should make a great president. One has almost nothing to do with the other.

B. Being president is not like being CEO, where one only has the board to answer to. Nor would I expect Trump to hire the best by any stretch of the imagination .. and listening is not one of his strong points.

C. The community organizer you allude to served in Congress and the SEnate before he became president.

D. I repeat, Trump has few political allies in government. Allies that he would need to effectively run the government.

E. Maybe you believe that he can just bark out orders and run the government by himself. He can't

There is no way in Hell that I would ever vote for something like Trump.

No way in Hell.
 
evince said:
she has a vag



to these sociopaths that negates everything she has accomplished in life
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aren't you saying that all the negatives in her life are offset by her vag?......sixty million in bribes = 1 vag.......tens of millions of Syrian refugees = 1 vag......wait, does that mean she needs 2 vags?......
 
tsuke said:
if your black hes your only hope. :D

consider that the other side wants to increase illegal immigration. Those are people who compete directly with blacks for jobs. Their existence also means its higher to effectively get higher wages as employers can always switch to illegals. according to sanders blacks had a 50% youth unemployment.

Its like anything else once you give your complete loyalty to a party ( in this case giving them nearly 100% of your vote) they take you for granted in search of newer votes.

Want democrats to pay attention to you more? Dont give them 90-100% of your vote.
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With all due respect, you support a loud-mouth clown who is an embarrassment to this nation. I don't think you are in any political position to offer political advice.

You may think you're in a better position to tell black people what's best for us .. but I don't believe that at all.

By voting for one party, black voters are the gatekeepers to the White House. It's hard to get in without going through us. You may think that's not a politically advantageous position, but that's just you.

On the very top of my agenda is addressing the brutality of police .. and because Clinton needs black voters, that issue WILL be addressed seriously because she wants to be re-elected AND will need energized black voters to do that. Democrats play plenty attention to what we want .. FAR, FAR more than any republican would.

Start from here .. I'm not a democrat .. didn't vote for Obama. But then again, I'm not a republican either .. nor would I ever vote for a republican.

Question: WOULD YOU VOTE FOR A BLACK PANTHER?

Expecting me to vote for someone from the virtually all-white republican Party is like me expecting you to vote for Black Panthers .. who hate you.

You wouldn't, nor would I be dumb enough to expect you to.

Your party is all-white. Why in the world would you expect black people to vote for that?
 
blackascoal said:
With all due respect, you support a loud-mouth clown who is an embarrassment to this nation. I don't think you are in any political position to offer political advice.
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you're dreaming if you think Hilliary doesn't have a louder mouth and is more embarrassing.....
 
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