The post-truth era

NOVA said:
Right again, it isn't just Snopes.....the rest of the fact checkers are in the same wagon.....as is most of the general media....I can still picture Hillary at

the debates, "I hope the fact checkers are listening to Donald" and grinning like the cat that ate the canary.....

thats why no one really gives a shit what they say or print since they've been exposed as liars and left wing propaganda spinners.....
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Who needs fact checkers when can hear her lying any time we want to log onto you tube....
 
I swear - Trump must have these guys hypnotized.

Snopes, Politifact, FactCheck.org & dozens more. They have studied this guy. They have listed the lies - hundreds of them. It's what he does.

Hillary's dishonesty? She lies to cover herself. She does not lie habitually. Trump does. He is the textbook pathological liar.

Why is this so hard to admit for you guys? Do you really see him as a truthful man? REALLY?
 
NOVA said:
Ha....its no wonder they claim Trump is a liar.....I'm all for mending fences, but Trumps statement is laughable....and a total insult some of the honorable men and women that did serve our country in that position.......
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He is a liar, by any unbiased standard. Just admit it already. We know you're a hack but at least you'd be an honest hack.
 
J Craft said:
I'd say he didn't know she was disaster, but on a further look was convinced he was wrong. Stop being a Desh and Cfan, where being wrong makes you a liar, instead of just wrong.
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If you actually admitted you were wrong when you're wrong, you wouldn't be called a liar.
 
NOVA said:
Right again, it isn't just Snopes.....the rest of the fact checkers are in the same wagon.....as is most of the general media....I can still picture Hillary at

the debates, "I hope the fact checkers are listening to Donald" and grinning like the cat that ate the canary.....

thats why no one really gives a shit what they say or print since they've been exposed as liars and left wing propaganda spinners.....
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Incredible hackery.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Good one lol. I guess some people can show evidence Trump lies every day or admit they're lying.
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CNN’s Brian Stelter calls Donald Trump a “uniquely fact-challenged candidate,” which is a prelude to introducing Daniel Dale, Washington correspondent for the Toronto Star, who fact checks every single word Trump utters and tallies them up for his paper.

Dale says most fact-checkers look at two or three things Trump says, “meticulously fact-checks them and posts an article,” but “that doesn’t work when you have a candidate who is frequently saying 20 false things in a day, up to 37 on some days.”

For example, Dale tallied 35 Trump lies on Tuesday, October 25: Which, as Dale pointed out, followed “his record-tying 37 false claims on Monday,” not coincidentally, a day on which Trump called fact checkers “scum.”

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10...ecker-reveals-trump-lies-20-37-times-day.html
 
PostmodernProphet said:
compared to Hillary that's like saying the local Pop Warner football team is a Super Bowl contender......
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The mainstream media likes to play the false equivalence game but there is no equivalence between Trump and Clinton. As Dale told Stelter, “There is a massive imbalance in the frequency of dishonesty.”

Trump, says Dale, “is not a normal political liar.”

For example, look at the presidential debates, in which Dale found 104 Trump false statements as opposed to 13 by Clinton.

Dale’s judgment is that “there is no comparison in her level of accuracy with her opponent.”

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10...ecker-reveals-trump-lies-20-37-times-day.html
 
christiefan915 said:
The mainstream media likes to play the false equivalence game but there is no equivalence between Trump and Clinton. As Dale told Stelter, “There is a massive imbalance in the frequency of dishonesty.”

Trump, says Dale, “is not a normal political liar.”

For example, look at the presidential debates, in which Dale found 104 Trump false statements as opposed to 13 by Clinton.

Dale’s judgment is that “there is no comparison in her level of accuracy with her opponent.”

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10...ecker-reveals-trump-lies-20-37-times-day.html
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The guy from CNN ?...the network that gave Hillary debate questions in advance ?....THIS is your source...?

Surely you jest....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
Of course not.....
No one comes anywhere close to hillary.......crap you could add 2-10 together and not come close to hillary.....
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Please, Trump lies pretty much everyday. It may be an exaggeration, but he knows he has no proof, but makes a claim anyway, just like he did with Boeing.

Stop being a blind apologist for him.
 
christiefan915 said:
Did you look at what he fact-checked or not?
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Some....but its too tedious to respond to them all....this my take on some of what you call "unbiased" conclusions.....
Tampa, Florida

1. Falsely said, “In Hershey Pennsylvania last night, we had an arena, we had 27,000 people show up.” (The arena has a capacity of 10,500. Some people were turned away, but not nearly 16,500.)

How does this clown know how man people showed up, or were inside the arena, or were outside the arena....answer, he don't

2. Falsely said, “Hillary said ‘I did not like Donald Trump’s lewd language’… I’ve never said what he said in my life.” (Clinton did not call Trump’s comments about women and sexual assault “lewd.” She has called them “horrific,” “demeaning” and “degrading.”)

This claim is too lame to argue about...as Hillary would say, "What difference does it make"

3. Falsely said, of the Florida primary, “Remember and most of you were there… we won 66 out of 67 counties… but we won 66 out of 67 counties. That’s never happened before.” (Trump was not the first to win 66 of 67 counties. Bob Dole did in 1996 and George W. Bush did in 2000, Politifact noted.)

Its never happened before ...well it hasn't, to him or maybe he was comparing this
to how many counties he won in other states....

4. Falsely said, of the 67th Florida county, “We almost, we almost, won that last one too.” (Trump lost Miami-Dade County 63 per cent to 23 per cent.)

His opinion, is he not intitled to his own views.

5. Falsely said, “They don’t ever show my crowds.” This was repeated at his third and fourth rally of the day. (Various media outlets show Trump’s crowds. One pool camera stays fixed on him at all times.)

Hyperbole...'ever'....? big deal...

6. Falsely said, “Last night Obama had a protester and they wouldn’t turn the camera to the protester. It’s the first time I’ve ever seen that.” This was repeated at his second rally of the day. (Various cameras showed the protester; as always, the pool camera remained fixed on Obama.)

So what?...If it was the first time HE ever saw it, it was the first time he ever
saw it.....why claim its a false statement....

7. Falsely said of Bill Clinton’s airport meeting with Loretta Lynch, “I thought it was 39 minutes; turned out to be 45 minutes… they had a meeting for 45 minutes.” (It was not.)

ABC said ABOUT 30 minutes, no definite time. he heard 45...again, "what difference does make", how long it was....the meeting itself is the issue, not the exact time.

8. Falsely said, “We’re the highest-taxed nation in the world.” (The U.S. is not even highest-taxed in corporate taxes; it is close. When all taxes are considered, it is below-average for major countries.)
Trump hands a baby to his head of security after bringing him on stage and kissing him at the Florida State Fairgrounds. Trump made 14 false statements at this Florida rally.
Trump hands a baby to his head of security after bringing him on stage and kissing him at the Florida State Fairgrounds. Trump made 14 false statements at this Florida rally. (DAMON WINTER / NYT)

Politifact says ""Right now we’re the highest taxed country in the world," Trump said on Feb. 6, 2016.
Trump’s campaign didn’t respond to us, but his claim could be accurate if he had been more specific. We’ve previously rated a statement that the United States has the highest corporate tax rate Mostly True, but Trump did not specifically say the corporate rate at the debate. So, to be totally fair, he is wrong on this one.
And they're left wingers....
The stuff about the baby is just irrelevant bullshit.

9. Falsely said, “The Cubans just endorsed me. They gave me the Bay of Pigs Association Award.” (Trump was not endorsed by “the Cubans,” or even a broad organization Cuban-Americans. He was endorsed by Miami’s Bay of Pigs Veterans Association. He did not receive an “award.”)

WOW...big lie? it was an endorsement and not an award....lame at best

10. Falsely said, “It’s just been reported that as a result of our open borders, violent cartels have spread into all 50 states.” (There is no apparent source for this. A government report in 2015, not recently, alleges a cartel presence in most states, but not all.)

His opinion...so there is no source for the statement yet this guy says most of the states
How the hell does know if its most of the states without a source...again lame

11. Falsely said, “More than 90 per cent of those arrested are here illegally… 90 per cent, think of that, 90 per cent are here illegally.” This was repeated at his second rally of the day. (It is not precisely clear what Trump was talking about, but illegal immigrants represent well under 10 per cent of arrests.)

the claim is ambiguous...no context, probably talking about illegals only

12. Falsely said, “As secretary of state, Hillary Clinton allowed thousands of the most dangerous and violent criminals to come into the country, go free, and wouldn’t send them back to their home countries… and we would never force them in.” This was repeated all three other rallies rally of the day. (It was not Clinton’s decision to release undeportable illegal immigrants. The Supreme Court ruled in 2001 that they could not be held indefinitely.)

No, not her call to make, but she does agree with Obama who did make the call...

13. Falsely said, of Clinton’s crowds, “The only way she gets them to show up is when she has a star come. That’s the only way. Otherwise she gets 500 people, 400 people.” (Clinton regularly draws thousands of people.)

When is the proof either way?...lame again,,,I've never seen the size of her crowds except when she had celebrities there....

14. Falsely said, “She’s going to raise your taxes.” This was repeated at his second and fourth rally of the day, adding: “She’s also raising your taxes very substantially folks. Big, big tax increase.” (This would only be true if he was speaking to an audience of rich people. Clinton is only raising taxes on the highest earners. The Tax Policy Center says most residents below the top 1 per cent will receive minor tax cuts under her plan, and even most of the highest earners will not see a doubling.)

opinion....opinions aren't lies...

Wilmington, North Carolina

15. Falsely said, of the illegal immigrant drunk driver who killed Leanna Newman, in 2007, “People that knew him begged to have him incarcerated or deported. But they wouldn’t do it.” (There is no evidence anyone close to him asked for his deportation or incarceration.)

There is no evidence they didn't either....

16. Falsely said, of his crowd in Selma, North Carolina, “We had 23,000 people.” (The crowd was smaller than 20,000 people. Wrote the Washington Post’s Jenna Johnson: “Trump said at least 15,000 were at his rally in Selma, NC. In NH this morning, he upped it to 20,000. Just now in Ohio: 21,000.”)
In North Carolina, Trump falsely said of Clinton, “There was no ISIS when she was secretary of state, at the beginning.”
In North Carolina, Trump falsely said of Clinton, “There was no ISIS when she was secretary of state, at the beginning.” (Evan Vucci / The Associated Press)

So did this guy count how big the crowd was....I think not...at best a little exaggeration....petty and lame

17. Falsely said, of Obama, “Wherever I go, I see him screaming at people that are protesters.” (Obama has not screamed at protesters during the campaign. Trump was falsely describing Obama’s reaction to a protester this week in North Carolina, for whom Obama urged respect and calm.)

18. Falsely said, “There was no ISIS when she was secretary of state, at the beginning.” (Clinton became secretary of state in 2009. ISIS was already using the name Islamic State of Iraq in 2006.)

On April 9, 2013, Baghdadi declared that Jabhat al-Nusra was part of al-Qaeda in Iraq — and that the new group would now be known as the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, or ISIS. But Nusra's head, Jowlani, refused to join up.
This left ISIS to "gradually emerge as an autonomous component within the Syrian conflict," according to Lister, by absorbing Nusra fighters and territory in northern and eastern Syria. In February 2014, ISIS was formally exiled from al-Qaeda, making it and Jabhat al-Nusra into enemies.


This is the petty bullshit the biased media and fact checkers called LIES...Hillary told more lies than this at the hearings in Congress alone....lol
Not lies about petty bullshit but lies of a serious nature, classified material, secret emails, destroying emails, not turning over work emails to the gov.
 
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