The Christ Haters Are At It Again Folks.

[evince]

why do the christians insist they get to shove their religion down everyone elses throats

 

[anatta]

why do the christians insist they get to shove their religion down everyone elses throats

they don't. why do you insist on perpetrating a falsehood?

I've had Jehovah Witness come to my door. I politely tell them I respect what they are doing, but it's not for me..
At no point do they shove a bible down my throat. I thank them and they wish me well..

 

[evince]

insisting that saying happy holidays is christian hate is shoving their religion down others throats asshole

 

[evince]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_multinational_festivals_and_holidays#December



December[edit]
Buddhism
Bodhi Day: 8 December*– Day of Enlightenment, celebrating the day that the historical Buddha (Shakyamuni or Siddhartha Gautama) experienced enlightenment (also known as Bodhi).
Christianity
Advent: fourth Sunday preceding 25 December
Krampusnacht: 5 December*– The Feast of St. Nicholas is celebrated in parts of Europe on 6 December. In Alpine countries, Saint Nicholas has a devilish companion named Krampus who punishes the bad children the night before.
Saint Nicholas' Day: 6 December
Feast of the Immaculate Conception Day: 8 December*– The day of Virgin Mary's Immaculate Conception is celebrated as a public holiday in many Catholic countries.
Saint Lucia's Day: 13 December*– Church Feast Day. Saint Lucia comes as a young woman with lights and sweets.
Longest Night: A church service to help those coping with loss, usually held on the eve of the Winter solstice.
Christmas Eve: 24 December
Christmas Day: 25 December*– one of the most celebrated holidays around the world, increasingly celebrated by Christians and non-Christians alike.[6][7][8][9]
Anastasia of Sirmium feast day: 25 December
Twelve Days of Christmas: 25 December–6 January
Las Posadas: 16–24 December*– procession to various family lodgings for celebration & prayer and to re-enact Mary & Joseph's journey to Bethlehem[10]
Saint Stephen's Day: 26 December
Saint John the Evangelist's Day: 27 December
Holy Innocents' Day: 28 December
Saint Sylvester's Day: 31 December
Fictional or parody
Erastide: In David Eddings' Belgariad and Malloreon series, Erastide is a celebration of the day on which the Seven Gods created the world. Greetings ("Joyous Erastide") and gifts are exchanged, and feasts are held.
Feast of Winter Veil: 15 December–2 January*– A holiday in World of Warcraft. This holiday is based on Christmas. Cities are decorated with lights and a tree with presents. Special quests, items and snowballs are available to players during this time. The character of "Greatfather Winter", who is modeled after Santa Claus, appears.[11][12]
Feast of Alvis: in the TV series Sealab 2021.[13] "Believer, you have forgotten the true meaning of Alvis Day. Neither is it ham, nor pomp. Nay, the true meaning of Alvis day is drinking. Drinking and revenge."–Alvis[14]
Hogswatch: a holiday celebrated on the fictional world of Discworld. It is very similar to the Christian celebration of Christmas.
Festivus: 23 December*– a parody holiday created by Daniel O'Keefe and made popular by Seinfeld as an alternative to Christmas.
Frostivus: the winter holidays in the Artix Entertainment universe
Decemberween: 25 December*– a parody of Christmas that features gift-giving, carol-singing and decorated trees. The fact that it takes place on December 25, the same day as Christmas, has been presented as just a coincidence, and it has been stated that Decemberween traditionally takes place "55 days after Halloween". The holiday has been featured in the Homestar Runner series.
Wintersday, the end-of-the-year celebration in the fictional universe of the Guild Wars franchise, starts every year mid December and ends the next year on early January.
Hinduism
Pancha Ganapati: 21–25 December*– modern five-day festival in honor of Lord Ganesha, celebrated by Hindus in USA.
Historical
Malkh: 25 December
Mōdraniht: or Mothers' Night, the Saxon winter solstice festival.
Saturnalia: 17-23 December - An ancient Roman winter solstice festival in honor of the deity Saturn, held on the 17 December of the Julian calendar and expanded with festivities through to 23 December. Celebrated with sacrifice, a public banquet, followed by private gift-giving, continual partying, and a carnival.
Dies Natalis Solis Invicti (Day of the birth of the Unconquered Sun): 25 December*– late Roman Empire
Judaism
Hanukkah: Ḥănukkāh, usually spelled חנוכה, pronounced [χanuˈka] in Modern Hebrew; a transliteration also romanized as Chanukah or Chanukkah), also known as the Festival of Lights, Feast of Dedication, is an eight-day Jewish holiday commemorating the re-dedication of the Holy Temple (the Second Temple) in Jerusalem at the time of the Maccabean Revolt against the Seleucid Empire of the 2nd century BC. Hanukkah is observed for eight nights and days, starting on the 25th day of Kislev according to the Hebrew calendar, which may occur at any time from late November to late December in the Gregorian calendar.
Paganism
Yule: Pagan winter festival that was celebrated by the historical Germanic people from late December to early January.
Yalda: 21 December*– The turning point, Winter Solstice. As the longest night of the year and the beginning of the lengthening of days, Shabe Yaldā or Shabe Chelle is an Iranian festival celebrating the victory of light and goodness over darkness and evil. Shabe yalda means 'birthday eve.' According to Persian mythology, Mithra was born at dawn on 22 December to a virgin mother. He symbolizes light, truth, goodness, strength, and friendship. Herodotus reports that this was the most important holiday of the year for contemporary Persians. In modern times Persians celebrate Yalda by staying up late or all night, a practice known as Shab Chera meaning 'night gazing'. Fruits and nuts are eaten, especially pomegranates and watermelons, whose red color invokes the crimson hues of dawn and symbolize Mithra.
Secular
Human Rights Day: 10 December
Zamenhof Day: 15 December*– Birthday of Ludwig Zamenhof, inventor of Esperanto; holiday reunion for Esperantists
Soyal: 21 December*– Zuni and Hopi
HumanLight: 23 December*– Humanist holiday originated by the New Jersey Humanist Network in celebration of "a Humanist's vision of a good future."[15]
Newtonmas: 25 December*– As an alternative to celebrating the religious holiday Christmas, some atheists and skeptics have chosen to celebrate December 25 as Newtonmas, due to it being Isaac Newton's birthday on the old style date.
Quaid-e-Azam's Day: 25 December
Boxing Day: 26 December*– Day after Christmas.
Kwanzaa: 26 December–1 January*– Pan-African festival celebrated in the US
Watch Night: 31 December
New Year's Eve: 31 December*– last day of the Gregorian year
Hogmanay: night of 31 December–before dawn of 1 January*– Scottish New Year's Eve celebration
Dongzhi Festival*– a celebration of Winter
Unitarian Universalism
Chalica: first week of December*– A holiday created in 2005, celebrated by some Unitarian Universalists.[16]

its not hate to recognize all religions

 

[evince]

pretending ONLY christian holidays exist is HATE

 

[Stretch]

and there is no proof god exists either

Or the cracken

why do you want to FORCE people to believe it

You continue to believe "somebody" is trying to force you to do something against your will. Don't portray yourself as such a victim. Believe what you want. I am merely answering your questions...we're having a type of conversation here, not a power struggle.

Only at God's direction can the Holy Spirit enter your heart and convince you of the truth of his Word. If you refuse, then you refuse. It's a matter between you and God, not you and me.

Anyway, as to science here's a brief paraphrase of what my German grandfather explained to me a long time ago. He was a Lutheran minister and also taught physics at Carnegie Mellon in Pittsburgh in the early 1900's.

Science deals with a matrix when we’re talking about natural science. We’re talking about the way things are in a material universe, there is a matrix of things. You have to have matter, you have to have force, you have to have energy, you have to have space and you have to have time. That is Herbert Spencer’s great achievement, he died in 1903, he said, "Everything in the universe can be deposited in one of these categories…time, force, action, space and matter." Force and action comprising energy. There has to be time, there has to be energy which is force and action, there has to be space, and there has to be matter.

Those five things which he defined in that order are all in Genesis 1, "In the beginning"…that’s time…"God"…that’s force…"created"…that’s action…"the heavens"…that’s space…"and the earth"…that’s matter." The matrix is in Genesis 1:1 and is a profound scientific statement. The universe in essence is a matrix of space, time, matter, and energy. And all of it has to be existing at the same conflux. It all has to come together or none of it exists. One cannot exist without the other. The entire continuum must have existed simultaneously from the beginning. That is why you find it all in Genesis 1:1, it all had to be there. Science says it has to be there and Scripture says it is there.

 

[Stretch]

pretending ONLY christian holidays exist is HATE

Who is pretending that only Christian holidays exist? This is a simple matter of all people of any persuasion freely giving a happy peaceful greeting representing a happy and peaceful holiday. You seem to be the only one here filled with anger. Calm down and enjoy a pleasant greeting from anyone who offers one to you.

 

[Phantasmal]

You know something, I'm really sick and tired of these morons every Christmas season coming out with their God hating garbage trying their best but failing every year trying to spoil everybody's Christmas with their anti theist, atheist propaganda. Some people actually feel sorry for them. Not me, I think they're vermin with a 0 tolerance level for any God fearing Christian or anyone who believes in the reason for the season.

We are the ones who are tolerant of them, year after year, Christmas season after Christmas season. They are the ones with 0 tolerance for us.

The poor little babies are soooo offended that they have to be annoyed by our religious celebrations.

You aren't a Christian, why are you insulted?

 

[blackascoal]

You know something, I'm really sick and tired of these morons every Christmas season coming out with their God hating garbage trying their best but failing every year trying to spoil everybody's Christmas with their anti theist, atheist propaganda. Some people actually feel sorry for them. Not me, I think they're vermin with a 0 tolerance level for any God fearing Christian or anyone who believes in the reason for the season.

We are the ones who are tolerant of them, year after year, Christmas season after Christmas season. They are the ones with 0 tolerance for us.

The poor little babies are soooo offended that they have to be annoyed by our religious celebrations.

Grow up.

Everyone is free to celebrate, not celebrate, criticize, not criticize anything they want. Nothing different, nor special about Christmas that exempts it from that freedom.

 

[Ralph]

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Exactly; "......or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Who shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion...the states, the people? No....the FEDERALIST CONGRESS...that would effect the entire nation. As the constitution is a contract among the states/people to list the things that the CENTRAL GOVERNMENT cannot do....a list of negative rights. One of those restraints is called the "free exercise clause". There are no qualifiers or restrictions placed upon free exercise....except that it can't be abridged by any law from the congress of the United States.

There is no WALL separating any State or Local government from any church of the peoples choosing. If a wall exists why is God mentioned in all state constitutions? The only constitution where you will find a wall of separation between church and state existing in writing? The constitution of the former USSR.

 

[anatta]

You continue to believe "somebody" is trying to force you to do something against your will. Don't portray yourself as such a victim. Believe what you want. I am merely answering your questions...we're having a type of conversation here, not a power struggle.

Only at God's direction can the Holy Spirit enter your heart and convince you of the truth of his Word. If you refuse, then you refuse. It's a matter between you and God, not you and me.

Anyway, as to science here's a brief paraphrase of what my German grandfather explained to me a long time ago. He was a Lutheran minister and also taught physics at Carnegie Mellon in Pittsburgh in the early 1900's.

Science deals with a matrix when we’re talking about natural science. We’re talking about the way things are in a material universe, there is a matrix of things. You have to have matter, you have to have force, you have to have energy, you have to have space and you have to have time. That is Herbert Spencer’s great achievement, he died in 1903, he said, "Everything in the universe can be deposited in one of these categories…time, force, action, space and matter." Force and action comprising energy. There has to be time, there has to be energy which is force and action, there has to be space, and there has to be matter.

Those five things which he defined in that order are all in Genesis 1, "In the beginning"…that’s time…"God"…that’s force…"created"…that’s action…"the heavens"…that’s space…"and the earth"…that’s matter." The matrix is in Genesis 1:1 and is a profound scientific statement. The universe in essence is a matrix of space, time, matter, and energy. And all of it has to be existing at the same conflux. It all has to come together or none of it exists. One cannot exist without the other. The entire continuum must have existed simultaneously from the beginning. That is why you find it all in Genesis 1:1, it all had to be there. Science says it has to be there and Scripture says it is there.

interesting philosophical take on Genesis & Herbert Spencer’s theorum

 

[blackascoal]

Exactly; "......or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Who shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion...the states, the people? No....the FEDERALIST CONGRESS...that would effect the entire nation. As the constitution is a contract among the states/people to list the things that the CENTRAL GOVERNMENT cannot do....a list of negative rights. One of those restraints is called the "free exercise clause". There are no qualifiers or restrictions placed upon free exercise....except that it can't be abridged by any law from the congress of the United States.

There is no WALL separating any State or Local government from any church of the peoples choosing. If a wall exists why is God mentioned in all state constitutions? The only constitution where you will find a wall of separation between church and state existing in writing? The constitution of the former USSR.

Treaty of Tripoli

Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen (Muslims); and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan (Mohammedan) nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

 

[Ralph]

You continue to believe "somebody" is trying to force you to do something against your will. Don't portray yourself as such a victim. Believe what you want. I am merely answering your questions...we're having a type of conversation here, not a power struggle.

Only at God's direction can the Holy Spirit enter your heart and convince you of the truth of his Word. If you refuse, then you refuse. It's a matter between you and God, not you and me.

Anyway, as to science here's a brief paraphrase of what my German grandfather explained to me a long time ago. He was a Lutheran minister and also taught physics at Carnegie Mellon in Pittsburgh in the early 1900's.

Science deals with a matrix when we’re talking about natural science. We’re talking about the way things are in a material universe, there is a matrix of things. You have to have matter, you have to have force, you have to have energy, you have to have space and you have to have time. That is Herbert Spencer’s great achievement, he died in 1903, he said, "Everything in the universe can be deposited in one of these categories…time, force, action, space and matter." Force and action comprising energy. There has to be time, there has to be energy which is force and action, there has to be space, and there has to be matter.

Those five things which he defined in that order are all in Genesis 1, "In the beginning"…that’s time…"God"…that’s force…"created"…that’s action…"the heavens"…that’s space…"and the earth"…that’s matter." The matrix is in Genesis 1:1 and is a profound scientific statement. The universe in essence is a matrix of space, time, matter, and energy. And all of it has to be existing at the same conflux. It all has to come together or none of it exists. One cannot exist without the other. The entire continuum must have existed simultaneously from the beginning. That is why you find it all in Genesis 1:1, it all had to be there. Science says it has to be there and Scripture says it is there.

I don't believe in Christmast....as its an invention of the early Roman Catholic Church, just like Easter. I defy anyone to find a mention of Christmast or Easter in the Holy Bible the very source of Christian doctrine. But both are American Traditions and I'd never think of robbing my child or any child in America of celebrating either traditional American Holiday....if someone wants to define those traditions as religious in nature they have that right under the "....free exercise clause"...and no one has the right to stop any display of that FREE PROTECTED SPEECH. As Christians are public property owners as well as any other tax payer. Any attempt to prevent that freedom of exercise is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

 

[Stretch]

I don't believe in Christmast....as its an invention of the early Roman Catholic Church, just like Easter. I defy anyone to find a mention of Christmast or Easter in the Holy Bible the very source of Christian doctrine. But both are American Traditions and I'd never think of robbing my child or any child in America of celebrating either traditional American Holiday....if someone wants to define those traditions as religious in nature they have that right under the "....free exercise clause"...and no one has the right to stop any display of that FREE PROTECTED SPEECH. As Christians are public property owners as well as any other tax payer. Any attempt to prevent that freedom of exercise is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Well stated, thank-you. Of course "Christmas" is not mentioned in the Bible, I agree. I understand the original origins. I believe this is simply a time set aside to specifically, individually and collectively recognize and celebrate the arrival on this earth of our Lord Jesus Christ. The same holds true in the Spring for what has come to be called "Easter" which is actually celebrating the death, burial and resurrection of our Lord.

 

[Bill]

Love that song.

 

[Lightbringer]

You know something, I'm really sick and tired of these morons every Christmas season coming out with their God hating garbage trying their best but failing every year trying to spoil everybody's Christmas with their anti theist, atheist propaganda. Some people actually feel sorry for them. Not me, I think they're vermin with a 0 tolerance level for any God fearing Christian or anyone who believes in the reason for the season.

We are the ones who are tolerant of them, year after year, Christmas season after Christmas season. They are the ones with 0 tolerance for us.

The poor little babies are soooo offended that they have to be annoyed by our religious celebrations.

Screw you little baby. No one gives a fuck about your religion.

 

[Bill]

Oddly enough~or not some of the very ones defending "Christianity" are some of the meanest ppl on the board.

If not for them claiming to be such, would anyone even know they pretend to follow the Messiah??

In the religion forum I posted a thread about "Christmas (Christianity’s own ‘War on Christmas’), & it has historically been opposed by many prominent "men" in the church.....

The story they tellin today is simply BS for the most part...

As an example, & I hope Phil don't take it personal, as I don't mean it as such, but his avatar tells a manger story that never happened according to the bible.. THERE WERE NO WISE MEN THERE WORSHIPING THE BABY IN A MANGER...

Unfortunately for the wannbe martyrs there is no war on Christmas or Jesus' birthday-HE WASN'T BORN ON THE 25th OF DECEMBER- the bible does not mention the day, perhaps because it isn't what is important, or @ least as much as his teaching etc etc etc...... But then celebrating his B-day is certainly a hellAva lot easier than following him......

 

[zappasguitar]

Right...that's why there is no "establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"...there are no laws forcing anyone to abide by any specific religion...we can all express our faiths as we choose. We do not live in a theocracy. This is not a Muslim-only run or atheist-only run country. I never understood the problem. Let everybody peaceably enjoy their expression of chosen faith.

If you don't celebrate Christmas, then be happy with your choice and move along and enjoy your life.

And if you DO celebrate Christmas, then for once shut up and quit whining about those who DON'T celebrate the holiday.

 

[Minister of Truth]

I don't know about that. He wrote "trying to spoil everybody's Christmas with their anti theist, atheist propaganda..."

I take that to mean he's against their visual or vocal criticisms of Christmas.

I'm against them, as well. Since Philly Cheesesteak and I aren't members of Congress, let's not go pretending facts not in evidence.

 

[domer76]

Do I mind it? Yes.......but I choose not to give that much power to other people to rule my life with attempts to rob me of my God-given peace. I do not fear what people say or may do to me, I fear the One who will pass judgment.

"What you have spoken in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the housetops. I tell you, My friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear the One who, after you have been killed, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear Him!"
Luke 12:3-5

Why do you fear this omnibenevolent being?