USA Security Council abstention condemns neoZionism as illegal

moon2012 said:
Now ain't that the truth. Decent Israelis have also been warning against this for years.

Israel desperately needs a general election- soon. There are hardened neoZionist fascists in the Knesset who will attempt to use Israel's covert nuclear arsenal as a trump card.
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CRY HARDER, MOOD DOGGIE
 
moon2012 said:
You know as well as I do that the problem of US support for Israel is at the root of all of the Middle East's woes- including war in Syria. Samantha Power's UN speech pays lip service to Zionism but the US administration realizes that its characteristic hypocrisy with regard to supporting Zionism against its own public policies has hit the buffers.
Israel now has Russia, Iran and a battle hardened Hizb'allah on its doorstep- so it cannot proceed with its plan to attack the Iranians- which was what Clinton had planned. So it really is time for Israel to pull its head in and start making with peace moves- or it will end up a failed state itself. Quite fitting really, considering its contributions to local genocide and ethnic cleansing- at US taxpayers expense.
Trump promises change- which includes an end to pouring billions of American dollars into the Middle East pit which previous administrations have dug. He's a businessman. He knows what effect the sight of flag-draped coffins coming home will have on his newly-created popularity.
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No, the source of all Middle East woes is Islam.
 
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moon2012 said:
The abstention was made in the full knowledge that the Resolution would pass as a result. Support for the Resolution is thus implicit. Folk should not labor under the misunderstanding that abstention leading to adoption is implicit opposition. Think about it.
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It's a cowardly way of supporting the resolution.

Obama mystifies me at times. If he's concerned about his legacy he screwed the pooch with this.
 
Milagro said:
It was the founding of the Muslim Brotherhood in 1928 that started modern day terrorism.

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True dat.

Hasan al-Bannah rediscovered radical Islam, which had remained dormant for many years. Radical Islam isn't a modern innovation; rather, it's Islam as it was practiced for many centuries going back to Mohammed.

In fact, the innovations within Islam have led to the peaceful variants.

The remarkable thing is this history is so easily discoverable---it's even accepted by most scholars. You can start from total ignorance and have a good grasp of the subject in a short afternoon. But you would never know it based on some of the policy responses of western governments.

Europe is particularly insane when it comes policy. Their forefathers fought 'radical Islam' at a terrible cost in order preserve their Christian culture or to keep from becoming subjugated in their own land. Now they open their borders to them.

The US has been protected from this madness only because a large ocean separates us from the Middle East. We have a weak border with Mexico, but Mexicans and Central Americans have no desire to kill us, subjugate us or convert us to Islam. In fact, they are nearly exclusively Christian so they at least share many of our cultural tenets. Our only problem is we don't have enough jobs for them so they are a drain on our economy.

It may be too late for Europe. The next decade will interesting.
 
moon2012 said:
Yes, that's the gist of my opening post. Nevertheless- the cowardice amounts to a measure of bravery under the circumstances of a neoZionist-ridden Congress and Senate.
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I guess it's brave in a political sense---or fool hardy, depending on how you look at it.

Then again, Obama is done running for office so it's no political skin off his back. Mainstream democrats support Israel, so maybe this is the democrat leadership continuing their ever-leftward lurch. Or maybe Obama just wanted to stick his finger in Netanyahu's eye one last time before he leaves office.

I have no idea what he is thinking.
 
moon2012 said:
Yes, that's the gist of my opening post. Nevertheless- the cowardice amounts to a measure of bravery under the circumstances of a neoZionist-ridden Congress and Senate.
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It is clear time that thus loathsome character is an Islamist lickspittle, piss be
on him.

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Just as Switzerland chose neutrality in WWII, abstention is a position of neutrality independent of the results.
 
moon2012 said:
Yes, that's the gist of my opening post. Nevertheless- the cowardice amounts to a measure of bravery under the circumstances of a neoZionist-ridden Congress and Senate.
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From a strategic standpoint I think Obama did the wrong move. He wanted this resolution to pass. The negatives he would have gotten from abstaining and actively supporting the resolution would have been the same, the practical effects as well as he is on the way out. He would have gotten more positives though if he actually picked a side.

The wishy-washiness which has been a hallmark of his admin is preventing him from reaping the maximum benefit from this move and other moves in the past.

Note im not saying I support this im merely analyzing it from a strategic standpoint.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
I guess it's brave in a political sense---or fool hardy, depending on how you look at it.

Then again, Obama is done running for office so it's no political skin off his back. Mainstream democrats support Israel, so maybe this is the democrat leadership continuing their ever-leftward lurch. Or maybe Obama just wanted to stick his finger in Netanyahu's eye one last time before he leaves office.

I have no idea what he is thinking.
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bravery would have been actually picking a side. What obama did maximizes the negative without maximizing the positive.
 
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Darth Hussein Omar said:
I guess it's brave in a political sense---or fool hardy, depending on how you look at it.

Then again, Obama is done running for office so it's no political skin off his back. Mainstream democrats support Israel, so maybe this is the democrat leadership continuing their ever-leftward lurch. Or maybe Obama just wanted to stick his finger in Netanyahu's eye one last time before he leaves office.

I have no idea what he is thinking.
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He is letting his true feelings show, however it just looks like a fit of pique and reflects badly on his legacy.

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tsuke said:
bravery would have been actually picking a side. What obama did maximizes the negative without maximizing the positive.
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It's Obama being his passive/aggressive self. It's a way of sticking it to both Trump and Netanyahu while giving the appearance of staying above the fray.

Trump is many things but passive/aggressive isn't one of them lol. His style of leadership will be a refreshing change.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
It's Obama being his passive/aggressive self. It's a way of sticking it to both Trump and Netanyahu while giving the appearance of staying above the fray.

Trump is many things but passive/aggressive isn't one of them lol. His style of leadership will be a refreshing change.
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yeah and it prevents him from fully capitalizing on his decisions.
 
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