USA Security Council abstention condemns neoZionism as illegal

[Sailor]

Rense is generally rubbish, agreed- but this appears to be good reporting.

Your last post missed my edit, incidentally;
Of course, we are in no position to hold our own enquiry here. According to the evidence I've seen online, along with the testimonies of survivors, the Israelis are as guilty as hell. If you want to believe the ' official ' propaganda and impugn the faculties of the sailors involved then that's your call.

Best evidence refutes your view. For the official record as of this date to be "propaganda" would require the need of the U.S. Navy to lie in a inquiry. That of course implies quite clearly that the U.S. Navy does not care about its sailors nor that the United States cared at all about its military personnel. That has never been the case. Israel had no reason to attack the Liberty. The United States had no reason to protect Israel from these claims if they were in fact accurate. If Canada decided to blow one of our ships out of the water intentionally (fat chance of course, but hey, it is just an example) the U.S. certainly would not make up excuses for them even though they are a neighbor. I tend to believe in facts. Even when they hurt. Facts are truth.

 

[blackascoal]

86.“... You must not desecrate the land the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance.”
[Deuteronomy 21:23]

87.“... Do not bring sin upon the land the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance.”
[Deuteronomy 24:4]

---

170.“... He overthrew seven nations in Canaan and gave their land to His people as their inheritance.”
[Acts 13:19]

Couldn't you have just posted a link?

Who do you think is going to read all that bullshit?

 

[Stretch]

Couldn't you have just posted a link?

Who do you think is going to read all that b...?

It was not meant for you. He asked a question, I gave the short answer, he didn't understand the short answer, so I explained. That's all. Play it safe, put me on your 'Ignore' list.

 

[Rune]

So, Obama basically flipped Israel the bird on the way out the door. Recall that Obama nixed a similar Resolution in 2011; the difference then was that Obama needed the Jewish bloc to get re-elected in 2012.

He also screwed some of his fellow democrats who will now have to explain to their constituency back home why their party decided to kick Israel in the nuts.

And people wonder why the democrats are in such disarray under Obama.

He doesn't have to explain it to Dems you fucking idiot.
We understand and approve.

 

[Rune]

It's a cowardly way of supporting the resolution.

Obama mystifies me at times. If he's concerned about his legacy he screwed the pooch with this.

Bullshit.

 

[Rune]

I guess it's brave in a political sense---or fool hardy, depending on how you look at it.

Then again, Obama is done running for office so it's no political skin off his back. Mainstream democrats support Israel, so maybe this is the democrat leadership continuing their ever-leftward lurch. Or maybe Obama just wanted to stick his finger in Netanyahu's eye one last time before he leaves office.

I have no idea what he is thinking.

Nope.
You don't know what you are saying.

 

[Rune]

Your claim to serious discussion ends here, I think.

I have yet to see him back up a single claim. Not even once.

 

[cancel2 2022]

Best evidence refutes your view. For the official record as of this date to be "propaganda" would require the need of the U.S. Navy to lie in a inquiry. That of course implies quite clearly that the U.S. Navy does not care about its sailors nor that the United States cared at all about its military personnel. That has never been the case. Israel had no reason to attack the Liberty. The United States had no reason to protect Israel from these claims if they were in fact accurate. If Canada decided to blow one of our ships out of the water intentionally (fat chance of course, but hey, it is just an example) the U.S. certainly would not make up excuses for them even though they are a neighbor. I tend to believe in facts. Even when they hurt. Facts are truth.

Never been any doubt in my mind that it was a deliberate attack.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/new-ev...uss-liberty-orders-kill-294-americans/198757/

Sent from my Lenovo K52e78 using Tapatalk

 

[moon]

Editorial Netanyahu Is Dragging Israel Into the Abyss



http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/1.761523

More than that. He is a murdering, ethnic cleansing war criminal.

Not so far back he was having lunch with the UK prime minister in Westminster.

 

[moon]

Best evidence refutes your view. For the official record as of this date to be "propaganda" would require the need of the U.S. Navy to lie in a inquiry. That of course implies quite clearly that the U.S. Navy does not care about its sailors nor that the United States cared at all about its military personnel. That has never been the case. Israel had no reason to attack the Liberty. The United States had no reason to protect Israel from these claims if they were in fact accurate. If Canada decided to blow one of our ships out of the water intentionally (fat chance of course, but hey, it is just an example) the U.S. certainly would not make up excuses for them even though they are a neighbor. I tend to believe in facts. Even when they hurt. Facts are truth.

You need to appreciate how deeply the rot of Israeli influence has infiltrated Washington.

 

[cancel2 2022]

Never been any doubt in my mind that it was a deliberate attack.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/new-ev...uss-liberty-orders-kill-294-americans/198757/

Sent from my Lenovo K52e78 using Tapatalk

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6690425.stm

Sent from my Lenovo K52e78 using Tapatalk

 

[moon]

Now then- a little exercise in prophecy;

To mask his humiliation and defeat at the hands of Obama and the world at large will Netanyahu..

a) Attack Gaza.

b) Attack Lebanon

c) Annex Area C

 

[Lightbringer]

Now then- a little exercise in prophecy;

To mask his humiliation and defeat at the hands of Obama and the world at large will Netanyahu..

a) Attack Gaza.

b) Attack Lebanon

c) Annex Area C

How much would you like to bet Israel doesn't annex anything?

 

[Lightbringer]

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/10/israel-army-expanding-illegal-settlements-161012071618171.html


Thanks to the US abstention these war criminals can be prosecuted as war criminals. Where's the injustice in that ?

No, they can't be prosecuted. You still don't understand this.

 

[Lightbringer]

(Jerusalem) – Palestine should urgently seek access to the International Criminal Court (ICC), a group of 17 Palestinian and international human rights groups, including Human Rights Watch, said today.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/05/08/palestine-go-international-criminal-court

And did you ever ask yourself why they don't as of now have access? They're stateless, that's why.

 

[Lightbringer]

Your claim to serious discussion ends here, I think.

Your claim ends here, He was right. Well, and wrong. The mandate was much larger than modern day Israel but the Jews were not guaranteed that land, in fact the only thing they were guaranteed was a homeland west of the River Jordan, size was not mentioned.

 

[Lightbringer]

What are you smoking lol?

Israel is a puny strip of land and you advocate it getting even smaller. Why can't some of the neighboring Arab countries chip in some land, since they acquired some of the Mandate territory?

Or is there something else at work here?

When the Jewish homeland was being discussed Arabs vastly outnumbered Jews in the Mandate.

 

[Lightbringer]

He will never understand that the key word here, is IF.

Yeah, "If" can be a real bitch, can't it?

 

[Lightbringer]

Are you yet aware that taking territory by force is inadmissible under law since post-WW2 ?

Who took land? Israel actually gave back land. Gaza and the Bank used to be annexed territory...now it's not. You wanna know why?

 

[moon]

Your claim ends here, He was right. Well, and wrong. The mandate was much larger than modern day Israel but the Jews were not guaranteed that land, in fact the only thing they were guaranteed was a homeland west of the River Jordan, size was not mentioned.

That's an approximation of what I said- and it was a struggle to have any ' map' produced at all.