White House fails to make case that Russian hackers tampered with election

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Talk about disappointments. The US government's much-anticipated analysis of Russian-sponsored hacking operations provides almost none of the promised evidence linking them to breaches that the Obama administration claims were orchestrated in an attempt to interfere with the 2016 presidential election.

The 13-page report, which was jointly published Thursday by the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI, billed itself as an indictment of sorts that would finally lay out the intelligence community's case that Russian government operatives carried out hacks on the Democratic National Committee, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and Clinton Campaign Chief John Podesta and leaked much of the resulting material. While security companies in the private sector have said for months the hacking campaign was the work of people working for the Russian government, anonymous people tied to the leaks have claimed they are lone wolves. Many independent security experts said there was little way to know the true origins of the attacks.

Sadly, the JAR, as the Joint Analysis Report is called, does little to end the debate. Instead of providing smoking guns that the Russian government was behind specific hacks, it largely restates previous private-sector claims without providing any support for their validity. Even worse, it provides an effective bait and switch by promising newly declassified intelligence into Russian hackers' "tradecraft and techniques" and instead delivering generic methods carried out by just about all state-sponsored hacking groups.
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Security consultant Jeffrey Carr also cast doubt on claims that attacks that hit the Democratic National Committee could only have originated from Russian-sponsored hackers because they relied on the same malware that also breached Germany's Bundestag and French TV network TV5Monde. Proponents of this theory, including the CrowdStrike researchers who analyzed the Democratic National Committee's hacked network, argue that the pattern strongly implicates Russia because no other actor would have the combined motivation and resources to hack the same targets. But as Carr pointed out, the full source code for the X-Agent implant that has long been associated with APT28 was independently obtained by researchers from antivirus provider Eset.
"If ESET could do it, so can others," Carr wrote. "It is both foolish and baseless to claim, as CrowdStrike does, that X-Agent is used solely by the Russian government when the source code is there for anyone to find and use at will."
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http://arstechnica.com/security/201...016-election-bitter-debate-likely-to-rage-on/
 
Even Rolling Stone magazine is dubious about these, and other, anti-Russian claims made by the Obama administration; that should tell people something.
 
tsuke said:
only russia has the resources... how much resources do you actually need to send a phsing email?
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exactly lol. a fucking 13 year old could phish podesta. the fact that people claim you need some state actor with super computers and the most sophisticated minds in russia to do this is patently laughable.
 
Imagine that.

Right-wingers disavowing claims made by Obama while giving more cred to some online magazine article than to US intelligence sources.

Go figure. :palm:
 
Nomad said:
Imagine that.

Right-wingers disavowing claims made by Obama while giving more cred to some online magazine article than to US intelligence sources.

Go figure. :palm:
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Surprisingly how much more accurate they have been as of late than the U.S. intelligence sources.
 
While security companies in the private sector have said for months the hacking campaign was the work of people working for the Russian government, anonymous people tied to the leaks have claimed they are lone wolves. Many independent security experts said there was little way to know the true origins of the attacks.
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Assange has vehemently denied there were "Russian hackers" hitting the DNC. Lone wolves would explain much.

WTF was Obama doing by hitting sanctions on Russia on such nebulous crap?
 
anatta said:
It's sadly almost true.
He's not leaving Washington,and he promises to speak up when he thinks we need to hear him...which is like 10,000 years from now.
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He is thinking to highly of himself. That is what caused his current fall from grace. Eventually there is a bottom.
 
Nomad said:
Imagine that.

Right-wingers disavowing claims made by Obama while giving more cred to some online magazine article than to US intelligence sources.

Go figure. :palm:
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You forget. These are the same people who pushed the ugly Pizzagate conspiracy theory. There's no phony info they don't embrace with open arms.
 
anatta said:
Assange has vehemently denied there were "Russian hackers" hitting the DNC. Lone wolves would explain much.

WTF was Obama doing by hitting sanctions on Russia on such nebulous crap?
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Why should we believe Assange when he admitted outright he has a vendetta against Hillary?
 
Sailor said:
He is thinking to highly of himself. That is what caused his current fall from grace. Eventually there is a bottom.
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well he's taking the Democratic Party down with him.
Dems lost over 1000 seats ( including state legislatures) while he was POTUS. Now that Hillary is gone -who do they got?
 
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