Protectionists and immigration fearmongers steal jobs

[Sammy Jankis]

Maybe we should kill em then, huh?

Nope. deportation and fence building are required.

If they are "occupying" the land legally, i.e., they buy or rent it, then I don't give a fuck on what side of an imaginary line they do it on. It does not concern me.

Fine let them drive housing up and wages down. what do you care about others. You're in it for you. That's why you're so cool.

Again, you have no right to a job. The employer that creates the job has all rights to it.

But the chances of americans getting a job are increased if they don't have all the competition. The american government should look after the interests of american citizens first, above the interests of illegal immigrants.

A government is not merely and administration discrict for the NWO fascists, it is bound to protect and enable an existence for these people called citizens. Have you heard that word? CITIZEN? Look it up.

I don't know what you call some idiot that believes he has a collective right to land or a right to a job created by another, but I call them a socialist/collectivist. You demonstrate quite well here that nAHZis and racists are socialists/collectivists.

Illegals as individuals occupy land that could be used by american citizen individuals. There's nothing collective about it.

 

[Timshel]

Deport the nAHZis, or better yet, put a bullet in their head.

Somewhere, there is some non-nAHZi who just wants to give handjobs for cash, but AHZ stole his job. nAHZis are occupying land and steal jobs from non nAHZis.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Deport the nAHZis, or better yet, put a bullet in their head.

Somewhere, there is some non-nAHZi who just wants to give handjobs for cash, but AHZ stole his job. nAHZis are occupying land and steal jobs from non nAHZis.

You're pathetic.

 

[Timshel]

Nope. deportation and fence building are required.

Fine let them drive housing up and wages down. what do you care about others. You're in it for you. That's why you're so cool.

They do not do either of these things any more then you do.

But the chances of americans getting a job are increased if they don't have all the competition. The american government should look after the interests of american citizens first, above the interests of illegal immigrants.

And the chances of non nAHZis getting job are increased if we deport/shoot you morons.

A government is not merely and administration discrict for the NWO fascists, it is bound to protect and enable an existence for these people called citizens. Have you heard that word? CITIZEN? Look it up.

If you are fascist/collectivist that's the role of government.

I don't need anyone to enable my existence.

Illegals as individuals occupy land that could be used by american citizen individuals. There's nothing collective about it.

Of course, there is, you fucking retard. You are arguing that American citizens have a collective right to property and jobs, even if they do not own it.

Non nAHZis individuals could use the land you are occupying. You're stealing from non nAHZis.

 

[Timshel]

You're pathetic.

What's the difference? You are occupying land and stealing a job from some non nAHZi handjobber. You should be deported.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

They do not do either of these things any more then you do.

I'm a citizen.

And the chances of non nAHZis getting job are increased if we deport/shoot you morons.

So we should deport or shoot anyone with concerns about illegal immigration? Is that your final answer?

If you are fascist/collectivist that's the role of government.

It's not fascism to manage international relations in a manner such that citizens can actually survive.

I don't need anyone to enable my existence.

You and your previous generations have reaped benefits from the protections of the state. I'm sure of it. Your grandmother might have become a TOJO Ho, had it not been for the U.S. government.

Of course, there is, you fucking retard. You are arguing that American citizens have a collective right to property and jobs, even if they do not own it.

The nation is a collective, that is true. And citizenship has rights, namely protection from invasion. If this collective no longer affords citizens any advantage over a non-citizen, is no longer a nation, but merely an administration block of the world government, with no extra responsibility towards actual citizens. Is that what we are?

Non nAHZis individuals could use the land you are occupying. You're stealing from non nAHZis.

Another citizen and I should have equal standing to occupy territory and to take jobs, we compete on this level individually with other citizens. A government has ABANDONED it's citizens when it offers them nothing in return for their taxation that is not also afforded to non-citizens.

A government does not exist to grow the economy regardless of the effects on the lifestyle of it's CITIZENRY.

 

[Timshel]

I'm a citizen.

So? Why do you have the right to drive up the cost of housing and steal jobs from people who are not nAHZis? I don't see how your distinction entitles you to anymore rights than mine.

The truth is that you are a lazy piece of shit who claims credit for being born American and white. You want the government to change your diapers and enable your existence based on that which you did nothing to earn.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

So? Why do you have the right to drive up the cost of housing and steal jobs from people who are not nAHZis? I don't see how your distinction entitles you to anymore rights than mine.

I said citizens should compete on EQUAL FOOTING with other citizens. Reread if you must.

The truth is that you are a lazy piece of shit who claims credit for being born American and white. You want the government to change your diapers and enable your existence based on that which you did nothing to earn.

The truth is I'm a brilliant sofware engineer in an industry that's the model for what they will do with ALL professions over time: get the cheapest most desperate people regardless of which laws they must destroy to do so and regardless of the effect it has on citizens lives.

 

[Timshel]

I said citizens should compete on EQUAL FOOTING with other citizens. Reread if you must.

Man, you are dense. Again...

Why? Why is your distinction of "citizen" so important? I say non nAHZis should compete on equal footing. The nAHZis should be deported. Why is your distinction more valid than mine?

The truth is I'm a brilliant sofware engineer in an industry that's the model for what they will do with ALL professions over time: get the cheapest most desperate people regardless of which laws they must destroy to do so and regardless of the effect it has on citizens lives.

I doubt it. You're a fucking retard that does not get simple concepts... no way you could make it as a programmer. Don't give up your handjobs.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Man, you are dense. Again...

Why? Why is your distinction of "citizen" so important?

You were talking about my rights versus your rights, and as citizens, they're both equal and we compete as individuals. My citizenship matters because it means my government affords me advantages over non-citizens.

I say non nAHZis should compete on equal footing. The nAHZis should be deported. Why is your distinction more valid than mine?

I'm a citizen. And citizenship has it's advantages. It shouldn't just be a bucket of liabilities.

I doubt it. You're a fucking retard that does not get simple concepts... no way you could make it as a programmer. Don't give up your handjobs.

I make it fairly well. I'm obviously smarter than you, as evidenced by the repeated asskicking I foist on you.

 

[Timshel]

No reason to continue. You are too stupid to follow the point.

You argue that you have a right to drive up housing costs and wages down (you don't actually do either of these things and neither do immigrants, but you are WAY too stupid to understand) because you are member of a certain collective. The point is, who gives a fuck? Why is your collective any more entitled than another, e.g., non nAHZis?

Your only response is, because I am a member of this certain group (i.e., a citizen).

 

[Sammy Jankis]

No reason to continue. You are too stupid to follow the point.

No. You just think citizenship should be rendered irrelevant if it grows the economy. That's the wrong way to look at things.

You argue that you have a right to drive up housing costs and wages down (you don't actually do either of these things and neither do immigrants, but you are WAY too stupid to understand) because you are member of a certain collective. The point is, who gives a fuck? Why is your collective any more entitled than another, e.g., non nAHZis?

Your only response is, because I am a member of this certain group (i.e., a citizen).

Yes. A nation is a collective. Collectives generally function by providing advantages to members of the group. You are arguing for another collective, the collective of "the human race". You want to destroy the protective power of the american collective and force the citizentry into a broader collective that cares little of their well-being.

I butchered you again, mental midget.

 

[Timshel]

No. You just think citizenship should be rendered irrelevant if it grows the economy. That's the wrong way to look at things.

Where you are born IS irrelevant to your value and the rights that you should have as an individual.

Yes. A nation is a collective. Collectives generally function by providing advantages to members of the group. You are arguing for another collective, the collective of "the human race". You want to destroy the protective power of the american collective and force the citizentry into a broader collective that cares little of their well-being.

I butchered you again, mental midget.

No, I am not arguing to force anyone into anything, retard. That's you. I did not choose to be born here and my boss did not choose his place of birth. Yet, you argue that all should be forced into the collective that maintains political power in their place of birth and not be permitted to cross some stupid line.

You DID choose to be a dumbass nAHZi and that's why we should deport you.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Where you are born IS irrelevant to your value and the rights that you should have as an individual.

Only if you don't believe in the concept of CITIZENSHIP. I do. Most do.

No, I am not arguing to force anyone into anything, retard. That's you. I did not choose to be born here and my boss did not choose his place of birth. Yet, you argue that all should be forced into the collective that maintains political power in their place of birth and not be permitted to cross some stupid line.

Yes, you want old collectives destroyed and everyone forced into one giant human collective, regardless of the impact on their lives. You have no right to do that.

You DID choose to be a dumbass nAHZi and that's why we should deport you.

Personal attack. It lacks merit.

 

[Timshel]

Only if you don't believe in the concept of CITIZENSHIP. I do. Most do.

Yes, you want old collectives destroyed and everyone forced into one giant human collective, regardless of the impact on their lives. You have no right to do that.


Personal attack. It lacks merit.

We are all humans. I have no power to force anyone into that group and your lines cannot prevent this reality.

If you put up fences and deport people who cross lines you force membership into collectives arbitrarily.

The attack illustrates the point. Your collective is forced, yet the one I threw out as an example is chosen.

 

[Timshel]

I wish I could force you to join the human race, but I don't think it's possible. You are always going to be a retarded chimp.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

I wish I could force you to join the human race, but I don't think it's possible. You are always going to be a retarded chimp.

Yet I still whip your ass everytime. I'd be careful calling me a chimp. To the casual reader, you've lost this debate. You wanna lose to a chimp?

 

[Sammy Jankis]

We are all humans. I have no power to force anyone into that group and your lines cannot prevent this reality.

But destroying nations is forcing people into a larger group which does not have their interests at heart. My lines have prevented this reality for thousands of years.

If you put up fences and deport people who cross lines you force membership into collectives arbitrarily.

The attack illustrates the point. Your collective is forced, yet the one I threw out as an example is chosen.

It's not arbitrary, and collectives generally spring up as ways for people to enahnce their survivability in the world. You want to take these away, based on the brainwashing you've received from globalists fascists.

 

[Timshel]

Dude, you should quit giving yourself free ones. You need to save your hand for paying customers.

I have not lost anything. You're a retard that is arguing that I am trying to force people to join the human race. There is no way to lose to such an assinine argument.

And no one is talking about destroying nations. The argument here is about whether people should be able to move about freely.

You argued that immigrants "occupying" land and "taking" jobs drives housing up and wages down (this is incorrect, but...), but you offer nothing to show how this is not true of any other group, i.e., nAHZis.

Your argument is that your place of birth (rather than your humanity) is the source of your rights and that you enjoy a collective right to land and employment.

The casual (or any other) should clearly see that nationalists=socialists.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Dude, you should quit giving yourself free ones. You need to save your hand for paying customers.

I have not lost anything. You're a retard that is arguing that I am trying to force people to join the human race. There is no way to lose to such an assinine argument.

You're trying to destroy the collectives which protect them, making them defacto members of a larger collective which does not have their interests at heart.

And no one is talking about destroying nations. The argument here is about whether people should be able to move about freely....

...by destroying the concepts of nation and citizen and border.

You argued that immigrants "occupying" land and "taking" jobs drives housing up and wages down (this is incorrect, but...), but you offer nothing to show how this is not true of any other group, i.e., nAHZis.

It is correct, butt....

Competition drives prices up, glut drives prices down. The point is citizens must compete as equals in this arena. Non-citizens are not protected in the same way citizens are. Again, see CITIZEN in your local dictionary.

Your argument is that your place of birth (rather than your humanity) is the source of your rights and that you enjoy a collective right to land and employment.

The casual (or any other) should clearly see that nationalists=socialists.

According to the concept of citizenship, that is correct.

You're just a dumbass on that last comment. I do not want a redistribution of wealth. I want the protective concepts of nation and citizenship maintained.