The resistance is on the wrong side, as usual

[Rune]

Trump's travel ban that's a Muslim ban except when it's not lol, shows a 55% favorability amongst voters.

Yet The Resistance opposes it.

They claim to oppose it on principle, but that principle was notably absent when Obama enacted the same ban on the exact seven countries. In fact, hardly anyone even remembers it.

But this is Donald J. Trump; Trump is Hitler, and he must be opposed at all costs!

All very amusing lol. But are the democrats even aware they are in opposition to a majority of voters? Will they go as far as to label folks who support *the common sense* travel ban as religious bigots?

Did democrats learn nothing last November?
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Thread fail.
What you advocate is called tyranny of the majority.

You and your ilk are so woefully stupid.
If you only knew what you are really creating.
You fucks are so unAmerican it disgusts me.

 

[CFM]

When he admitted he would give preference to Christians in Muslim majority countries, that is a de facto Muslim ban.

"In an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network on Friday, Trump clarified what this means: Christians refugees will be given priority status. “They’ve been horribly treated,” the president said. “Do you know if you were a Christian in Syria it was impossible, at least very tough, to get into the United States? If you were a Muslim you could come in, but if you were a Christian, it was almost impossible.” People overseas “were chopping off the heads of everybody, but more so the Christians,” he added, “so we are going to help them.”

So you say. Sorry, since you as an individual don't matter, your words don't matter.

 

[CFM]

Thread fail.
What you advocate is called tyranny of the majority.

You and your ilk are so woefully stupid.
If you only knew what you are really creating.
You fucks are so unAmerican it disgusts me.

Until Democrats are in the majority and you call it majority rule.

Your bitch lost. Get over it.

 

[Rune]

And you would have been wrong. We really don't need people traveling here from those seven countries.

And you are a fool.
The cure for cancer could easily come from a Persian trained here as an M.D.

Same with cold fusion or any other pie in the sky need of humanity.

Think about the melting pot, what America is, and what it means to be an American.

 

[CFM]

And you are a fool.
The cure for cancer could easily come from a Persian trained here as an M.D.

Same with cold fusion or any other pie in the sky need of humanity.

Think about the melting pot, what America is, and what it means to be an American.

Those coming here don't want to "melt".

 

[Rune]

what? why on earth would he want to"ban Muslims" and then not ban SA/Pakistan?
He wants to BAN TERRORISTS. That's why he picked the "7 countries" - they are incapable of verifying immigration status. I posted this somewhere before : here's the reasoning behind Obama's choices,and Trump's concurrance

*Libya has no government ( well it has 3)- we have a few CIA and the Brits have some SAS operating, but they are doing so with local militias
*Syria is not giving us intel
*Iraq's gov't barely cooperates with the US -and only over ISIS - being a proxie gov't of Iran
*Sudan is in a civil war -no cooperation with the US.
*Somalia the central gov't can't really get out of Mogadishu
*Yemen use to co-operate with the US -but that gov't lost the ability to deal with the US -rebels overran many of their bases
*Iran is hostile to the US in all dealings


forget Guiliani - the man has no credence whatever he was saying or not- Trump rightfully blew him off

Sorry but you can't take back the facts.
Ghouliani spilled the beans AND Trumps own words just confirm it.
Of course you want us all to forget the witness.

 

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And to address the OP - Obama didn't announce it formally, and it wasn't reported widely. It was in response to a specific incident instead of "policy," and I would have opposed it if I knew about it.

Here's the deal: like some on the right, particularly on the security side, I happen to think that this measure achieves the opposite of what it intends. I think it alienates important allies and communities who we really need to fight terrorism & extremism, and makes us less safe - not more.

Nice of you to admit the left is being completely disingenuous by attacking Trump and not saying a word about Obama.

I agree with you on the effect. I guess the lessen we can't from this is, keep it a secret like Obama and you'll be fine.

 

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It really doesn't matter what Trump said, it matters what the EO says. Trump could say all day long he wants to ban muslims and say, how can I do this and it not violate the constitution and someone says, here, this is the how you can do it, without violating the constitution, but in reality, it won't be a muslim ban, but will ban many muslims.

So, his intent is clearly unconstitutional, however, the EO, if religious neutral, is not unconstitutional.

And as has been pointed out, the left didn't and doesn't care that Obama did the same thing. The left is in hysteria and their hatred for the man personally (not that he doesn't deserve some of it) is really screwing up this country. I wish he stop insulting people and warring with the media because it fuels the hatred, but the left has gone beyond rationality.

 

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Nice of you to admit the left is being completely disingenuous by attacking Trump and not saying a word about Obama.

I agree with you on the effect. I guess the lessen we can't from this is, keep it a secret like Obama and you'll be fine.

If Trump had made it about "dangerous countries" from the beginning, and not about religion, you wouldn't be seeing this outcry from the left. You'd be seeing some on the fringes, but it wouldn't be like this.

Trump made it about religion, and freedom from discrimination based on that - even for foreigners, as a principle - is something we all hold dear as Americans.

So, I don't think there is much disingenuous about it. It's really apples to oranges, even if Obama's had been more publicized.

 

[anatta]

Sorry but you can't take back the facts.
Ghouliani spilled the beans AND Trumps own words just confirm it.
Of course you want us all to forget the witness.

campaign rhetoric is not "facts". Guliani is not in the government, he did not help design the XO.
Guliani is not a truthful source, as much as he thinks he should be - but if you want to be recalcitrant and insist he is - go for it.

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

And really, can we all stop with the "left has lost it" thing? There IS hysteria, but if there was every warranted hysteria, this is it.

People give a damn about this country. Trump is an unmitigated trainwreck. It is absolutely unreal that he has been elected as our President and CIC. If you can't lose it over that, what can you lose it over?

This is a scary time for America. I just want us to get through it, personally. I have never had that kind of uncertainty.

 

[anatta]

And really, can we all stop with the "left has lost it" thing? There IS hysteria, but if there was every warranted hysteria, this is it.

People give a damn about this country. Trump is an unmitigated trainwreck. It is absolutely unreal that he has been elected as our President and CIC. If you can't lose it over that, what can you lose it over?

This is a scary time for America. I just want us to get through it, personally. I have never had that kind of uncertainty.

just when you were making some sense, you lapsed back into hyperbolic nonsense.

 

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And really, can we all stop with the "left has lost it" thing? There IS hysteria, but if there was every warranted hysteria, this is it.

People give a damn about this country. Trump is an unmitigated trainwreck. It is absolutely unreal that he has been elected as our President and CIC. If you can't lose it over that, what can you lose it over?

This is a scary time for America. I just want us to get through it, personally. I have never had that kind of uncertainty.

LMAO. So you admit there is hysteria, but, hey, it is good. Hysteria is NEVER good you hack. You have lost it. Go look at your posts before Trump won and then look at them after he won, you became unglued and hyper partisan.

A scary time for America? Listen to yourself. You sound EXACTLY like many on the right when Obama won and I bet dollars to donuts you criticized them for it.

Trump is not the best pick and he acts like a child and his diplomacy skills appear to suck, but he doesn't want to destroy this country, and in fact, many things he has done so far are good for the country and YOU even agree with some of them.

So calm down, count to 10 and breathe.

 

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just when you were making some sense, you lapsed back into hyperbolic nonsense.

It is not hyperbole with him, he actually believes it 100%.

He admits to being hysterical. That should be a wake up call, but he thinks it is good to be hysterical, I mean, he really believes and said it.

Wow.

 

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just when you were making some sense, you lapsed back into hyperbolic nonsense.

I don't expect you to see it w/ clarity. You bought in.

Even if it was just temperament, Trump would be a scary POTUS. But he has no respect for the Constitution, or for the truth, or for fair & equal treatment. He's more suited to be a king or pope in the middle ages than POTUS in 2017.

 

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If Trump had made it about "dangerous countries" from the beginning, and not about religion, you wouldn't be seeing this outcry from the left. You'd be seeing some on the fringes, but it wouldn't be like this.

Trump made it about religion, and freedom from discrimination based on that - even for foreigners, as a principle - is something we all hold dear as Americans.

So, I don't think there is much disingenuous about it. It's really apples to oranges, even if Obama's had been more publicized.

This is the problem with the left, it is not about facts, it is about feelings. Bash him all you want (rightfully so) about his desire to ban muslims, however, to claim the EO is a religious ban is a false. It doesn't matter what he says, it matters what the EO says and its effect. Over a billion muslims can still enter this country, but your hysteria makes you believe it is a total muslim ban.

You've lost it and that is a fact.

 

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This is the problem with the left, it is not about facts, it is about feelings. Bash him all you want (rightfully so) about his desire to ban muslims, however, to claim the EO is a religious ban is a false. It doesn't matter what he says, it matters what the EO says and its effect. Over a billion muslims can still enter this country, but your hysteria makes you believe it is a total muslim ban.

You've lost it and that is a fact.

Intent matters to me. It should matter to you.

 

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I don't expect you to see it w/ clarity. You bought in.

Even if it was just temperament, Trump would be a scary POTUS. But he has no respect for the Constitution, or for the truth, or for fair & equal treatment. He's more suited to be a king or pope in the middle ages than POTUS in 2017.

But yet, he abides by the Constitution.

See, you're hysterical and just make stuff up because you hate the man. You're as bad as those on the right who said Obama was muslim and born in Kenya.

There are plenty of things to criticize him for, but the more you guys get hysterical, the better he looks.

 

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Intent matters to me. It should matter to you.

Not when determining the constitutionality of a code, EO etc. Even if Trump was a Nazi, if his EO does not violate the constitution, then it doesn't matter what his intent is and we can thank our founding fathers for the Constitution.

You're not thinking clearly.

 

[Bill]

the media creates the memes, and the Dems reinforce,and the protestors haven't a clue..

"Muslim ban " is manifestly, stupidly wrong

Yea the so called president should have never said it....

You don't mind discrimination now, wtf next?