Protectionists and immigration fearmongers steal jobs
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Sammy Jankis
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I just don't see it beefy. Explain how you see a skewering. Or maybe you're just being a fuckface again?
WHY! What the fuc k do you not understand about the simple question. You don't fucking answer you just restate the assertion. Why should we tolerate trade aqnd commerce with other when it impoverishes us? Why not just outlaw trade since according to your dumbass we will all be richer.
This has nothing to do with international trade. YOUR FUCKING DUMBASS ARGUMENT IS THAT TRADE (PERIOD) IMPOVERISHES US. You have stated multiple times now that we must tolerate this with fellow citizens but have failed to offer any coherent reason why we must or should tolerate it.
You just repeat your assertion and try to change the subject with red herrings.
No, actually you are.
Immigration law, moron. Fuck, you are a spineless worm!
I did not quote it because it is only more of your redundant blathering.
You argued that economic competition necessarily drives wages down and housing costs up. This is an argument against ALL trade and the fact that you are too fucking stupid to realize this implication does not change it.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
It's because as citizens we're on equal footing and must tolerate competition from each other in certain realms. But we don't have to tolerate competition from illegals, as they shouldn't even be here. Im not against all trade. I'm against detrimental trade.
i've never stated ALL trade impoverishes. That's a just a lie from a liar. SOME trade is detrimental.
I never have changed the subject.
Your trying to constrict the protective alliances people have. You're asserting that the only valid collective is "the human race". That's insane.
You want to change immigration law?
It's not an argument against all trade. It's an argument for border enforcement.
All you can do now is misrepresent my positions. You're sad.
Yeah, we must tolerate this detrimental competition with citizens, you've said that before. What you have not said is why, you fucking coward.
There illegal due to the law. Make them legal and they will be on equal footing.
Yeah you did. I said...
and you responded with...
I then argued that you would be far poorer without trade and you tried to change the subject with some rant about slavery.
Why would you ask such a moronic question when I have answered it already.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
Because of the equality of citizens under the law.
this dilutes the value of citizenship. keeping people out is a valid function of a state.
I'm against trade with noncitizens which is detrimental to citizens. Got it ace? how many fucking ways can you spin it into something I never said? Give it another go if you want. But most of us would prefer you just stfu, and slink away, defeated, as you are.
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Keeping people out is not beneficial to human-kind. If it is not beneficial to human-kind, it is not beneficial to America.
There should be a treaty that specifically allows free interchange of people between states. That way no one can claim they're being treated unfairly.
There should be a treaty that specifically allows free interchange of people between states. That way no one can claim they're being treated unfairly.
Why not just change the law?
Oh exclusiveness is now the point. LOL, then why not just create your own nation and you can be supercool. Stupid dodge.
Just admit the truth. You're a fucking racist and a xenophobe. If you had your way youd probably deport all non whites.
If you are going to backpedal, coward, then you are faced with the question again, why doesn't competition with other groups drive wages down and housing costs up? If we legalize greater immigration numbers then the immigrants will be on the same footing as us.
Let me guess because they are citizens and it does not. In other words your faggot ass aint going to back up anything. You slinked away long ago but for some reason you keep posting crap.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
Exclusiveness has always been the issue; citizens should exclusively have the right to live and work here. I haven't backpedaled or dodged anything.
I'm supercool in this nation, don't need a new one thanks. If you want it so bad you leave and go live in "the world as a whole". Citizens have rights non-cititens dont. The governement should protect our border.
You're flailing about like quad in a hot tub full of mayonaise and your own anal bacteria is causing the mayonaise to turn fetid at an accelerated rate.
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Sammy Jankis
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I have fully responded. Lately it's gotten easy, because all you do now is purposefully misunderstand what I'm saying, or try to put words in my mouth.
You are fully defeated. Accept it. Embrace it. Grow from it.
No, you failed to answer the questions. Any one can see that. Here are the questions again.
[In response to your weak ass claim that we must tolerate the negative impacts of competition with fellow citizens]
Why not just change the law?
[In response to your cowardly backpedaling from the point that the competition of the marketplace impoverishes us]
If you are going to backpedal, coward, then you are faced with the question again, why doesn't competition with other groups drive wages down and housing costs up? If we legalize greater immigration numbers then the immigrants will be on the same footing as us.
Let me guess because they are citizens and it does not. In other words your faggot ass aint going to back up anything. You slinked away long ago but for some reason you keep posting crap.
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You aint nothing but a fucking coward. Who would have guessed that a guy that hides behind his race and nationality and claims undeserved credit for it, would be so cowardly. Anyone and everyone.
[In response to your weak ass claim that we must tolerate the negative impacts of competition with fellow citizens]
Why not just change the law?
[In response to your cowardly backpedaling from the point that the competition of the marketplace impoverishes us]
If you are going to backpedal, coward, then you are faced with the question again, why doesn't competition with other groups drive wages down and housing costs up? If we legalize greater immigration numbers then the immigrants will be on the same footing as us.
Let me guess because they are citizens and it does not. In other words your faggot ass aint going to back up anything. You slinked away long ago but for some reason you keep posting crap.
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You aint nothing but a fucking coward. Who would have guessed that a guy that hides behind his race and nationality and claims undeserved credit for it, would be so cowardly. Anyone and everyone.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
You want to change the law so we don't even have to tolerate competition from other citizens? Please clarify.
It does. But we must tolerate other citizens.
I believe it will have too detrimental effect on wages. Citizenship is about exclusiveness, like you already agreed. The value of the citizenship is non existant if anyone who sneaks in can become one. It's like when your old lady gives it out all over the block for free, it devalues you and the relationship, and the concept of love itself.
I'm still here and calmly answering your questions again, with the same answers I gave before.
You're cute when you get angry.
If it is such a bad thing, then yes. Why wouldn't we?
But I don't believe the competition of the marketplace is a bad thing. That's your dumbass.
You just claimed you were not arguing this a few post ago (of course you were but being a spineless coward...). Round and round you spin.
Okay, dumbfuck, if this is true, that competition impoverishes us, then all trade is bad. Not just trade with foreign immigrants, not just international trade, but all trade. Your dumbass is arguing that we would all be better off without trade. It's a stupid and idiotic argument and I understand why you don't want to own it, but that is the clear implication.
I did not agree to anything. I was merely restating your stupid premise.
So as long as your old lady only gives it up to a couple legal immigrants you are fine.
Your analogy fails. A relationship is based on mutual consent. You don't get to use force against anyone to compel fidelity.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
We do need to tolerate some other people in the world. A man is not an island.
Competition to a degree is good. Competition from illegals is illegal, and competition with slaves is impossible to win without also becoming a slave.
I've consistently said we must tolerate CITIZENS. Non-citizens shouldn't be here and should be deported. Why do you keep misrepresenting me? That's pathetic.
No. It's not the clear implication. The clear implicaton is we should limit trade partners to countries with a similar concept of human dignity internationally, and that we should enforce immigration law. This is what I've said all along.
No. Previously you thought you GOT ME when you were saying citizenship for me was really about exclusiveness. You were right, it just wasn't the "gotcha" you had planned on.
No one's forcing her dude. SHe digs it. You don't have to force her.
Dude pick a position and stick with it. Quit squirming you coward. You just claimed competition is necessarily bad and that competition with our fellow citizens drives our wages down and prices up.
This has nothing to do with international trade dipshit. You are arguing that all trade is bad as it drives down wages and increase costs of living.
Alright, I am done. You are worthless as you don't even have the nuts to take a position, much less back it up.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
These are just facts of any market, a glut drives prices down. Scarcity drives prices up. The labor market is the same. However, we must tolerate some other people in the world. Fellow citizens are in this category.
I have never argued all trade is bad. That's simply a lie.
Good. stay done this time.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
Oh how the mighty are felled by the sting of my trenchant truth and wisdom!